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[Press release]

Humboldt County Teens Are Invited To Anti Prom 2012 at The Arcata Playhouse Saturday May 19th

Arcata, Ca. – Humboldt County Teens are invited to attend the third annual Anti Prom Saturday May 19, 2012 from 8 p.m. to midnight at the Arcata Playhouse, 1251 9th Street in Arcata. Anti Prom 2012 is a social event staged by and for local teens, sponsored in part by the MARZ Project & The Ink People Center for the Arts. Tickets are $12 at the door or presale tickets are $10 at Wildberries Marketplace in Arcata and The Little Shop of Hers in Old Town Eureka. For more information email antiprom2012@gmail.com or visit us on Facebook or our webpage at www.teeofarcata.com/antiprom2012/.

The theme is Classic Black & White Movies. Attendants are encouraged to come in costume, casual ware or formal ware. Anti Prom 2012 is an alternative prom for teens from any Humboldt County School, Charter School or Home-School. This event was conceived as a safe space for teens to attend as groups, individuals, with or without dates. This is an event for teens who are or are not attending traditional proms and for those who don’t have a traditional school prom to attend.

Anti Prom 2012 features live music by local teen bands Ratus Ratus, Maniac, and 51 Cards. There will also be several hours of pre-recorded music requested by followers on our facebook page. To request a song to be played at Anti Prom – email requests and MP3s to antiprom2012@gmail.com.

Other activities include a photo booth with props from The Little Shop of Hers, mustache painting, and silhouette artists Anni Bond & Blake Reagan. Ultimate Yogurt and Humboldt Bay Coffee Company have generously donated costume contest and door prizes. Delicious goodies and beverages will be available to Anti Prom 2012 guests, thanks to our generous community members: Cassaro’s Catering, The Lost Caravan, Cakes By Lisa, Blondies, Smugs Pizza, Humboldt Bay Coffee Company & FundraisingCoffee.Com

A giant thanks goes out to Anti Prom 2012 sponsors and supporters at The Ink People Center for the Arts, The MARZ Project, The Arcata Playhouse, Wildberries Market Place, The Little Shop of Hers, Redwood Yogurt, SquidInkDesign, Tee OfArcata, Rays Food Place, Eureka Main Street, Vico Designs, Just Cause Productions, and other generous individuals.

  1. Anonymous
    May 13, 2012 at 7:53 am

    an alternative prom for teens from any Humboldt County School, Charter School or Home-School

    One person’s awesome is another person’s sad spectacle. We’re busily dismantling public education. We’ve siphoned off so many students that we now have a prom experience for all the kids attending smaller schools.

  2. May 13, 2012 at 7:58 am

    So you are suggesting a ban on safe, alternative events for youth until all other problems are fixed? As if that would solve anything.

  3. cb@cb.com
    May 13, 2012 at 8:03 am

    It is called adapting to change. The sad spectacle is the obsolete business model of the disfunctional public schools that place a priority on administrators instead of teachers.

  4. Anonymous
    May 13, 2012 at 8:18 am

    How is it “dismantling public education” when a group forms a small PUBLIC charter school that focuses more on academics and does away with football, cheerleaders, the prom, and other BS. This seems more like “remantling” education back to what it was meant to be – education. These are public schools open to anyone. The difference is the kids and their parents care about education and don’t want to deal with who made the team, who is on the cheerleading squad, who is voted most popular.

  5. Ponder z
    May 13, 2012 at 8:23 am

    How sad.
    I do enjoy old B&W flicks, but will seventeen year olds? NO way. A handful of geeky kids may be able to digest this venue.

    The priority on teachers unions is distracting teachers form educating.

  6. Dave Kirby
    May 13, 2012 at 8:36 am

    “Anti Prom” is needlessly negative. How about the Other Prom. Although “Anti Prom” does fit with the overall sour attitude that this blog seems to encourage. I have never seen so many cranks in one place. I guess if I lived up there I’d be pretty bummed too. Down here in sunny SoHum we talk about the Eureka hangover. We used to think it was the pulp mills that caused it but more and more its just the overall ambience up there. How you gonna get tourists to come back to Humboldt after they’ve seen Eureka.

  7. Mitch
    May 13, 2012 at 8:45 am

    8:18,

    Charter schools leave the educational problems to the real public system while skimming off some parents who are, to their credit, involved in their children’s education.

    It’s true that they can’t discriminate in admissions, but they are often formed by groups of the most interested parents, removing those parents and their children from the real public system.

    I can’t blame the parents who do this, but it’s just another example of the fading of the once near-universal belief that the United States should support public services equally for everyone.

    It’s a very difficult issue, I agree.

    Here’s one story: http://www.smartmoney.com/spend/rip-offs/10-things-charter-schools-wont-tell-you/

  8. May 13, 2012 at 9:01 am

    Good for you guys. A safe place for everyone to go and have a good time. Sounds like a pretty dang good time to me.
    Have a blast kids.

  9. May 13, 2012 at 9:03 am

    If you don’t like charter schools then I am sure you are going to HATE…
    http://www.k12.com/schools-programs/online-public-schools

  10. Mitch
    May 13, 2012 at 9:07 am

    mark…,

    Um, yes. I’m sure such programs can be fantastic for some students. But to allow for-profit companies to take public money to offer any parents some web pages, a free computer, and a chance for their kid (any kid) to chat with a teacher seems criminal to me.

    Again, just to be clear, I think such programs can be perfect for some very limited subset of students. They should be offered to those students by the real public school system. If they’re not, that’s a shame.

  11. Ponder z
    May 13, 2012 at 11:06 am

    So Mitch, you would force ALL children into public school. Just to keep the the best students in the mix, and boost school performance. That would be OK, if the big gov and teachers unions took a back seat.

  12. Anonymous
    May 13, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    So you are suggesting a ban on safe, alternative events for youth until all other problems are fixed?

    That’s a red herring. Real proms are safe events to begin with. Alternative proms are ‘needed’ by homeschoolers and the cadre of tiny public charter schools our government created in order to siphon students away from traditional public schools, kill teacher’s unions (charters don’t have ’em) and dismantle public education.

  13. Anonymous
    May 13, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    Ponder Z, I’d be satisfied with dissolving the charter school system and continue to allow private schools to open if people think they’ve hit upon a new and more effective way to educate kids. Hint: charter schools fail at the same rate as traditional public schools, but in California the government produces an annual list of the worst failing schools and explicitly exempts failing public charter schools from the list.

  14. Mr. Stinky Pants
    May 13, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    Heraldo, real proms are already safe events. This sounds like an event for kids whose parents don’t support traditional public schools, but come prom age, realized their kids aren’t getting the same experience they had themselves in high school. It’s sad and funny at the same time.

  15. Mitch
    May 13, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    Ponder z,

    What I said was, “I can’t blame the parents who do this,” and “It’s a very difficult issue, I agree.”

  16. Jackie
    May 13, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    All the drugs are at the anti-prom along with the free condoms.

  17. Anonymous
    May 13, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    Well, Jackie, that statement ought to ensure a huge turnout.

  18. May 13, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    Mitch,
    The online PUBLIC schools are just that FREE public education. You get a state of California certified education and you do not have to deal with bullies, homophobes, gangs, or any of the other crap that goes on in “public schools”.

  19. Anonymous
    May 13, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    What I love here is that there is another choice. The proms are pretty good in most schools, safe, and free of restrictions so kids can wear what they want and go with friends or a partner, date, or alone. The point is, some kids don’t have a prom at their school and some don’t want to attend the one provided, so this is another choice. I agree that the name is negative.

  20. Goldie
    May 13, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    And the “I can argue over any post” award goes to……….?
    This sounds like a great idea. The pressure of having a date is removed and costumes for the night will rely more on imagination than money.

  21. walt
    May 14, 2012 at 7:19 am

    Wikipedia sez: “In the United States and Canada, a prom (short for promenade) is a formal (black tie) dance or gathering of high school students. It is typically held near the end of the senior year. It figures greatly in popular culture and is a major event among high school students.. . .The cost of prom in the United States in 2012 averages $1078 per family.

    As the income gap increases, this sounds like a great alternative for non-rich kids.

    Imagine if the money wasted on proms, huge weddings, iPads, cellphones and Air Jordans was spent on. . .funding for better public schools.

  22. Percy
    May 14, 2012 at 9:42 am

    Walt, don’t you know that education for the masses is a waste of hard earned tax dollars that conservatives want to spend on just their own kids in their own private schools. Screw Pell grants, saddle em with loans they can’t repay and after they graduate offer them jobs as waitresses and bartenders. Let’s get on with this race to the bottom so our workers can compete for those outsourced jobs,

  23. 2 cents
    May 14, 2012 at 10:15 am

    Arrrrrrrrrrrr – charter schools are well meant (mostly), but the public school system’s survival is seriously threatened and returning it to its ‘former glory’ (or much better) should be our priority!

    I can’t believe (that H. didn’t correct it for ’em) a promo for a charter school event includes the really stupid error ‘casual ware or formal ware’. It’s a party not a garage sale, right ? Sad.

    Jesus – GOOD PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR ALL!

  24. Mitch
    May 14, 2012 at 11:08 am

    And it’s promising excelent (sic) food.

    But you can’t blame the sponsors for the illiteracy of the graphic artist.

  25. Mitch
    May 14, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Ouch, that was a little harsh. My apologies to the graphic artist, but you might consider having someone spell check your stuff for typos or errors before considering it done.

  26. Anonymous
    May 14, 2012 at 11:20 am

    mitch, good catch. Maybe it means the menu will be printed on a spreadsheet using microsoft excel.

  27. walt
    May 14, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    “. . .casual ware or formal ware” As opposed to firmware, hardware, software or etherware.

  28. anti sports in high school
    May 14, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    I agree with 8:18 yesterday about schools focusing too much time and money on sports. Maybe there should be special, after school, sports clubs, funded by the families that like sports, so kids can still play football etc.

    High schools should spend all their money on high quality education that will prepare a person for life. That includes the academic subjects and also opportunities for real life learning experiences that help kids figures out who they are, how they learn and what is best for them. Preparing kids to be productive in the working world is a big part of it, but not all of it. Knowing yourself and learning social skills is important too.

  29. RefFan
    May 14, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    anti sports in high school says nothing about what REAL high school education is about. Parents are supposed to teach kids the life learning experiences and to be productive individuals in the real life, not the schools, they teach acedemics & sportsmanship (supposedly, cuz alot of schools, cough cough, Fortuna High, cant do the job cuz the parents are living their HS yrs thru their kids)(Sorry for that but I cldnt help it). That said, the way HS is headed, they shld require classes that will teach kids those life lessons cuz the parents nowadays sure the hell aint doin it.

  30. Scared of our future
    May 14, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    with the obesity epidemic surging at warp speed, how can any informed person continue to criticise sports at our public schools. For God’s sake, encourage more sports not less!

  31. Spelling Police
    May 14, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    What the heck is formal WARE? This misspelling just shows how bad our schools are. It’s WEAR.

  32. Not fat
    May 14, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    Maybe preparing them for life also means physical fitness so at least they can bend over enough to tie their own shoes.

  33. Jack Sherman
    May 14, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    Privatization has been a huge failure all around…prisons, K-12 schools, military, university services…all racked with scandal and inefficiencies. Worst of all, the loss of institutional knowledge enables private parties to negotiate for competition packages higher than they were under government accountability.

    I see the alternative prom as a popular repudiation of today’s irrelevant educations, or, what Ralph Nader described as “a revolution in lowering expectations” and “degrees in harmony ideology”.

  34. anti sports in high school
    May 15, 2012 at 9:21 am

    It is not up to schools to solve student obesity through more sports. Schools should remove their soda and candy machines, offer classes in nutrition, including teaching kids how to cook real food.

    Most students do not play sports, but sports consume a large portion of school budgets. I don’t like seeing my tax money spent on making new football fields. I want it spent on upgrading the library, computer equipment, instruction and everything associated with learning. Learning to throw and catch a ball should be done after school, in sports clubs, paid for by those interested in playing sports.

    Physical fitness can be addressed through mandatory Physical Education classes. Everyone would benefit from that, not just the jocks.

  35. Anonymous
    May 15, 2012 at 10:22 am

    You sound like a curmudgeon. School teams help make school more fun. Rooting for your team builds school spirit. A well rounded life is not all work and no play. Lighten up.

  36. RefFan
    May 15, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    Money for new fields, upgrades, etc comes from donations thru the community so you cant bitch about your tax dollars going to that.
    If kids did not have sports in school then they would not have an incentive to do good in school or even go if all they did is academics.
    Do you just go to work, go home & sleep….No vacations, volunteer work, wknd drunk feasts, etc?
    Its not just your world and how you feel time & money should be spent. We all have different needs & wants. Team sports teaches sportsmanship, team work, discipline as long as you have a decent coach.

  37. What Now
    May 15, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    School; athletics are a drain on declining resources and serve merely a small select few.
    They DO replace the gladiator arenas of old so that obese sedentary armchair warriors are diverted from spending time attempting to engage their atrophied synapses.

  38. Amy Breighton
    May 15, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    “You sound like a curmudgeon. School teams help make school more fun.”

    And that’s great for K-12. But the massive P.E., recreation, leisure, and entertainment venues, buildings, resources, and bureaucracies at HSU, are way over the top, while academics decay! Our rivers, beaches and miles of forests aren’t enough fun? Are you nuts?

    It’s uncomfortably similar to German campuses in the 1930’s. Low on funding, they focused on sports for the privileged classes. Everyone else was duly prepped for low-wage jobs or perpetual war.

  39. Percy's child
    May 15, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    Getting rid of high school or jr high sports would be the worst idea for our youth since prop 215. But Amy is right about college sports. All of them who aren’t self supporting should be done away with.

  40. May 16, 2012 at 6:49 am

    Lets ban football for kids and adults, as it causes severe brain injury.

    Percy,
    What in the hell does medical marijuana for ADULTS have a single thing to do with a kids prom?

    Apples and Oranges.

    PS,
    Get over it, medical marijuana isn’t going away, it is expanding.
    Connecticut just became state 17.

  41. SmokeMonster
    May 16, 2012 at 8:12 am

    Lets ban kenpo for children and adults before football,more adults involved in kenpo suffer severe brain damage and death as a direct result of kenpo.

    This “anti-prom” is not aimed at homeschoolers as much as continuation school kids,where tobacco,drug and alcohol use is prevalent,the “anti” us their weak attempt to make fun of “real” proms making this group more part of the problem not solution.

    Why not let all high schoolers attend the local high schools prom in their area if they so choose instead? Might help bring bring the youth together…

  42. Mitch
    May 16, 2012 at 8:30 am

    I couldn’t agree more with 9:21. Sports in schools should be through clubs, and if sports boosters want to pay for teams, great!

    Money for schools should go to education, including physical education classes. Those PE classes can teach sports, as well as the wide variety of physical activities that can improve health.

    The teams should be extra-curricular in every way, until every single American school is fully equipped for learning art, music, science, math, language, and physical/manual skills.

  43. anti sports in high school
    May 16, 2012 at 9:27 am

    For the perpetually ignorant:

    Money for new fields, upgrades, etc comes from taxes. Bonds are used, tax payers pay off the bond. The issue is put to the voters. Everyone person who pays property tax pays regardless of how they voted.

    A very small percentage of student populations play sports. Saying we need sports as an incentive to do well academically is ridiculous. Students who perform best are typically not involved in sports at all. Where does that motivation come from?

    Compare a school day to a work day. You spend the day working. When you go home you are on your own time and you can use it to play, volunteer or attend a drunk fest. You do not engage in these activities at work. Same is true for high school students. When at school, their job is to learn, not play sports.

    I’d suggest that RefFan go back and finish high school so maybe she could to think but I know it is hopeless.

  44. RefFan
    May 16, 2012 at 10:42 am

    Ferndale football field, paid for by Mclean foundation (in which Miller Farms royally screwed up). John Sweet HS got astro turf from donations, not taxes.

  45. RefFan
    May 16, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Of course, those are upgrades and not the initial construction, but maintanence like that comes from donations.

  46. High Finance
    May 16, 2012 at 11:53 am

    School sport teams are “extra curricular”. The teams mostly practice & play after school hours.

    Most High Schools have about 1/4 to 1/3 of the students participating on at least one team. They learn discipline, teamwork and the value of winning and the experience of being defeated but not giving up.

    It is also an incentive for many kids to stay in school and keep up their grades.

    For those of you nerds who cry about how much sports cost the schools, pray tell us how much you think they cost ?

  47. Mitch
    May 16, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    School sport teams are “extra curricular”. The teams mostly practice & play after school hours.

    That’s great, Hifi. Let’s work to change “mostly” to “always.”

    As for sports being an incentive to stay in school and keep grades up, I think it would be great to restrict participation in club sport contests to those who maintain a minimum performance level in the important subjects school is about.

    You’d define as a “nerd” anyone who thinks sports are over-emphasized in many schools? Why not just call such people “sissies,” like Mitt probably did?

  48. Anonymous
    May 16, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    HSU spent tens of millions of dollars upgrading its Field-house, pool, tracks, in addition to other entertainment venues and leisure activities, Center Arts, Activities. Their huge bureaucracies alone cost millions of dollars a year in salaries and benefits.

    It’s ironic that university campuses are run by mostly right-wingers taking public funds for non-essential entertainment and leisure services that could be provided by the private sector. HSU did not need new state-of-the-art dorms with another cafeteria, nor those costly gateways or frappaccinos in the library.

    Meanwhile, German language, applied technology, and nursing are eliminated, and every other department is cutting budgets, overcrowding classrooms, and losing their most experienced profs. to early retirement incentives.

    Even the California Auditor has reported on the waste and fraud taking place on our university campuses.

    Who will tell the people?

  49. Smart 5th Grader
    May 16, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    The stadiums get built while the music and language classes are closed…and the “nerds” get insults for High Hater.

  50. Smart 5th Grader
    May 16, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    from High Hater.

  51. Mitch
    May 16, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    I think 12:06 brings up a really critical point.

    It’s actually right wingers who end up responsible for managing many government programs — these programs fail not because they are bad ideas, but because the schmucks in their sinecures (the SchITS) don’t support them, and just view them as ways to increase their little empires.

    Government can be good or bad depending on what people are in place, both in politics and in the bureaucracy.

  52. Anonymous
    May 16, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    “Most High Schools have about 1/4 to 1/3 of the students participating on at least one team”

    As a retired teacher, I dispute this. Show me the stats.

    HiFi reveals the essence of the problem with his/her name calling. If you value reading, writing, math and science you are a nerd. That attitude is precisely why kids in the USA do not measure up to kids in other developed countries, or even countries like India. That attitude reflects an arrogance and complacency that is our downfall. Our students cannot compete in the global economy. More football is not the solution.

    A substantial amount of funding is used for sports. Sports fields, equipment, coaches, bus trips – it all adds up. When schools are laying off teachers and can’t upgrade their libraries they have no business spending any money on sports. If families of sport playing kids want to pay for all these expenses, let them do it.

  53. Tee
    May 16, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    WOW! I am not really sure where to begin. I would like to say that I am never shocked at the level of ignorance that humans show – but I simply can not say that in this case! “One person’s awesome is another person’s sad spectacle.” – In regards to this statement – It’s very sad to see a supposedly educated adult make such a misfortunate, uneducated, bigoted, short sited judgment.

    For those of you who think that this Anti Prom is a negative thing – you are sadly making assumptions without looking into the facts! The students that are throwing this event are NOT “continuation school kids,where tobacco,drug and alcohol use is prevalent” (by the way – nice use of punctuation?) – YOU DON’T KNOW THESE TEENS! I DO know these kids – personally! They are BRIGHT, MOTIVATED, CREATIVE, DRUG FREE, YOUTH WHO GET GOOD GRADES AND ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN MANY ASPECTS OF THEIR COMMUNITY – BEYOND WHAT IS EXPECTED OF THEM! How many of you can toot that horn?

  54. Tee
    May 16, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    Anti Prom is not just a local phenomenon! There is a national movement of students (from NY to LA, Montana to Florida) who are throwing “alternative proms” – some are titled ANTI PROM and some are titled “MORPS” (Prom in reverse). The name is somewhat misleading … but the motivation and intent is good and something to be supported, not ridiculed. This event is not ONLY for Charter School Students and Home-schooled students… believe it or not – there are teens in “regular schools” THAT CHOOSE NOT TO ATTEND “traditional proms” for a large variety of reasons!
    Some of which include:
    * The peer pressure that some teens feel to attend “with a date.” Anti Prom in general is meant to be a prom that no one should feel uncomfortable attending – alone, with friends, as a group, with a date, or with a date of the same sex.
    * Some teens just don’t like Top 20 Music (and in Humboldt County – Country Music) – This anti prom gives the kids a chance to request music they DO want to hear – be it “Queens ~ Rhapsody,” Skaw or Samba Music, Retro or House Music or even Show tunes.
    * A personal THANKS goes to “Walt” for having the common sense to investigate what the average cost of prom is and its definition. And also to Goldie and other voices of reason – We appreciate your positive input! The sheer COST of prom is prohibitive to some students who don’t have “a couple hundred dollars to blow on a one night event” – it’s not so much the price of the ticket as it is the cost of the formal WEAR!
    * NOT EVERY TEEN IS “A” TYPICAL – PROM QUEEN/PROM KING MATERIAL! Not every teen feels comfortable in the ridged stereo types that traditional prom often resembles (Intentionally or unintentionally.) Not every teen WANTS to attend “PROM”.

  55. Tee
    May 16, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    As for the Theme – Ponder z wrote – “I do enjoy old B&W flicks, but will seventeen year olds? NO way. A handful of geeky kids may be able to digest this venue.” The theme was chosen by the students! They had a Zombie theme two years ago and last year it was the apocalypse. I think this is pretty tame comparatively and – as far as geeky kids go – at least they have better manners and more tact than most of the people commenting here.

    Which brings me to – I am the ADULT who wrote the press release. I am completely educated by the “Traditional High School System” and even I have my shortcomings. Yes I should have had an editor look over the press release – that is a given… but CHARTER SCHOOLS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MY DYSLEXIA! As for the graphic artist – again – yes spell check would have been helpful – but this is not the point! The point is that, in his spare time (of which there really is not much) he and his friends are going out of their way to do something good for their community and you people are nit picking it to death! What do you possibly get as a reward for this behavior? This young man and his friends will get the reward of feeling good about their efforts and the outcome. Maybe if you spent as much time doing something constructive for your community as you do wasting time online belittling people you would feel better about the world around you!

  56. Tee
    May 16, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    This is NOT (I REPEAT N.O.T.) a “weak attempt to make fun of “real” proms”!!!! This is a small group of local teens who have gone out of their way (on top of their rigid school schedule, social life, family expectations, and college applications and testing, etc.) to do a good deed – contribute to community – and throw an event for teens who want to attend. In regards to “Why not let all high schoolers attend the local high schools prom in their area if they so choose instead? Might help bring bring the youth together…” Many attendants WILL attend their “Traditional Prom” as well… but many do not have a prom to attend! This event is for any teen from any high school educational program in Humboldt … it is LITERALLY an opportunity for these kids to “come together” as a community no matter where they get their education!

    The issue at hand is not weather or not Charter Schools are a good thing…and it seems funny that this event spurred such a debate – but while we are on the subject – I have a teen who attends a Charter School that has been a healthier, more supportive, more constructive, more educational atmosphere for him. He was falling through the cracks of the traditional high school that he attended for 2 & ½ years – for a variety of reasons. His Charter School provides him with more “one on one” interactions with his instructors, an environment where bullying is NOT accepted or even present, a curriculum that challenges him and helps him succeed… sadly the Traditional High School failed him on ALL of these levels. I am thankful that we had an alternative to turn to and owe his teachers a debt of gratitude!!!!

  57. Tee
    May 16, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    I find it appalling (and simply amazing) how many of you have time to ridicule and tare apart something that is so well intended without educating yourself of the facts! Ignorance is not bliss! For a debate that is so strongly regarding education and the challenges that our school systems face – this seems to me to be one of these MOST IGNORANT conversations I have noticed in quite a while. I debated with myself on the necessity to involve myself in this conversation at all, but felt that something needed to be said to support these kids in their efforts!

    It goes without saying – Just because you “think something” does not make it fact! Just because your small vision of the world limits your ability to understand the rest of the world does not make your perception correct. Just because you have the ability to think and type at the same time does not mean that you should speak what is on your mind. (EX “I see the alternative prom as a popular repudiation of today’s irrelevant educations, or, what Ralph Nader described as “a revolution in lowering expectations” and “degrees in harmony ideology”.”) PLEASE, get real!!!! My mother put it very eloquently – “If you have nothing nice to say, nothing constructive, nothing helpful, nothing of relevance, nothing that is beneficial – then shut the F up!” (Okay – maybe not so eloquent – but strait to the point !!!) Mr Stinky Pants – Your name says it all – your obviously full of **it! Again – a prime example of someone talking about something they don’t understand and have not taken the time to try to understand!

  58. Tee
    May 16, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    Anti Prom 2012 in Humboldt is a good thing! Jackie! – Really? PLEASE! Grow up! Rest Assured – It will be well supervised by a group of parents and community members and mentors who will be watching over the kids to make sure that they are safe and that they are behaving themselves.

    Anti Prom is showcasing local teen musical talent, local teen artists, and has been supported by many local businesses and upstanding community members. It is something that the teens have requested happen again for the third year in a row. There is a place for it and there is a place for the teens that choose to attend it … even if you don’t understand it. It is valid! It is good! It is happening! Needless to say – not everyone in the world is the same. We do not ALL have the same needs, beliefs, thoughts, ideologies, etc… What a blessing! I whole heartedly believe in the kids that are organizing this and know them to be of sound mind and good intent. I do however question many of the people who have responded to this article!

  59. High Finance
    May 16, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    Well sissy Mitch, by “mostly” what I understand is that sometimes team members can consider a team practice as an elective. They don’t get around any of the core or required subjects.

    And my claim of 1/3 to 1/4 was given to me by a physical ed teacher. She totaled all the participants in all the school teams, allowed for a lot of kids who are on teams in two different sports and compared that to the total number of kids at Eureka High. There is a requirement for a minimum GPA. That forced my son, who didn’t care about school, to get & keep his grades up.

    And 12.20pm, you illustrate the problem with the attacks on school sports teams. You have no idea what the real cost is, subsequently your charge of “substantial funding” is baseless.

    Equipment ? The equipment lasts for years. The equipment for most sports are a minimal cost. A basketball costs $25. A tennis ball is almost nothing.

    Coaches ? Laughable. I was one for a few years and you get about $2,500 for the entire season. Nobody coaches for the money. Bus trips ? Bus trips have been cut drastically. Us parents have to pool and get our kids to most games.

    Then you forget the huge number of tickets sold to football games and basketball games. You forget the food booths that the boosters clubs use the profits to pay for team expenses.

    Just because someone is smart that doesn’t make them a nerd. A nerd is someone who is smart but then looks down on those who do play sports and who devalues sports.

  60. Anonymous
    May 16, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    “Just because someone is smart that doesn’t make them a nerd. A nerd is someone who is smart but then looks down on those who do play sports and who devalues sports.”

    What the hell are you yapping about? And what does it have to do with how a highschool spends $100 million dollars?

  61. Anonymous
    May 16, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    HiFi, has trouble with reading comprehension. I have nothing against sports or people who play them. Schools in this country put far too much emphasis on sports and far to little on learning core subjects. The USA is the only country that does this. Even universities in other countries do not emphasize and promote sports. In this country, college sports is a huge business. Our students perform far below students in other countries and I think our obsession with sports is part of the reason.

    Why can’t schools have clubs that compete in math, science, computer programming, composition, history, speaking skills, music, creative thinking and problem solving, community service, etc. Why do schools have to motivate and unite their students with sports? Only because the jocks in charge say so. People like HiFi are afraid to change and grow and want to keep things like they were when they were in school, even as the evidence shows that schools are failing to do their job to educate young people.

  62. High Finance
    May 16, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    What “$100 million dollars” is that ?

    And schools do have some of those clubs and they can have the others if students wish to form them.

    The problem is people like you with no knowledge or facts about public schools pontificating on what should be done.

  63. Anonymous
    May 16, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    “The problem is people like you with no knowledge or facts”

    This is HiFi’s standard reply when he has lost a debate. He can’t give substantial evidence to support his own position so he relies on broad brushing, ignoring facts, twisting statements, denying reality and name calling. He caps it all with “The problem is people like you…”

    So predictable and boring.

  64. High Finance
    May 17, 2012 at 7:35 am

    Oh for God’s sake 6.09pm.

    State which of my facts are wrong, tell us what you think the real numbers are or STFU.

  65. Jack Sherman
    May 17, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    “Real numbers”. How about your own lying eyes?

    Take a tour of the HSU campus to see tens of million of dollars wasted on sports, entertainment, leisure activities, and the multimillion dollar bureaucracy it takes annually to support it, while academics decay.

    Apparently, this massive waste of tax dollars is “OK” if it’s for frivolity while the nation falls far behind the others in most categories of academic competence.

    How much more evidence is needed?

  66. High Finance
    May 17, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    Sober up Jack and realize I am talking about elementary through high school sports.

    I support those who say college sports should be entirely self supported.

  67. May 18, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    What u want boi?
    What happen to dis topic.

    High School sports are for Ballers. What we need to do is add more Ballin’ to the High School Edumacational systam. Git rid of all dem “Academics”. I don’t need those for real life. Only math I need is how to count how many girls jump into my limo when I roll away from my NBA championship. Also, get rid of prom. Instead, make errybody play one bigass game of B-Ball, and they be ballin’. Replace all computers with PEE ESS TRIPPLE so we can play NBA 2K12. Real talk yo.

  68. May 18, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    Also, Smoke monster….

    KENPO IS BADASS!
    Don’t talk crap about Kenpo, cuz a Ninja might just come outta thin air and get you! Ninja’s are no joke mang.

  69. squidinkdesign
    May 18, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    Hi im a student at the arcata art institute. i go to school at arcata high for 4 periods a day, then i go to my art focus classes for 2 periods. after school i attend art workshops through aai until 5:30 EVERY DAY then i go home eat dinner, and do homework for another hour or so (not to mention my chores) in my free time i volunteer for local events (latest being the Humboldt arts festival) i run a graphic design firm named squidink design, and i do art. I AM THE PLANNER AND THE GRAPHIC DESIGNER FOR ANTIPROM. i might not have the best grammar and spelling in the world, but really i dont care. if people didnt take time out of their day to pick apart everything i do IT WOULDNT MATTER. it really made me sad to see this. i have worked for months on top of my crazy schedule to create this event as a CLEAN, SAFE, POSITIVE environment, hell all of our remaining funds goes towards a local non profit. !!!THIS EVENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CORRUPTION OF THE U.S. SCHOOLING SYSTEM!!! and for all of you who think that its going to be filled with drugs and sex, have you ever attended a highschool dance? the dances now have become nothing more then a large ball of scantily clad teenagers “grinding” on each other, and (having attended a few of these events and looked at the people) far away from drug free. this event has a large amount of parental chaperons who will remove any unruly teens from the premise. SO if you like it when teenagers only choice is to go to their school sponsored dances (which are over attended, under supervised, have a narrow variety of music, cost exorbitant amounts of money, and cause uncomfortable pressure to teens) and you have a problem with me trying to give myself, and other local teens, a clean and safe social event, then go ahead badmouth my event all you want.

  70. Jack Sherman
    May 19, 2012 at 12:24 am

    Massive waste in University sports and entertainment persists following 12 years of elementary, Jr. high and high school bureaucracies convinced they are expected to do the same.

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