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Plaza Point housing project

Arcata is full of “No-Growth” people. Dag nab those darn No-Growthers who hate all growth and development.

Oh, what’s this?

Those Arcata no-growthers built stylish and roomy housing for seniors across the street from the co-op and surrounded by shops and restaurants.

Scram dazzle that No-Growth crowd in Arcata.

  1. SNaFU
    June 17, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    Granny can slip out (after 11:00pm lights out) for a few swirls along bar row, a couple of pulls @ the Plaza Grille, grab a 6pak @ the Co-Op and back in time for head count @ 2:00am. (and never be missed) Sweet deal!
    Rumor has it DANCO has looking for a golf coarse site within scooter range.
    The Plaza would be dy-no-mite but the Plazoids would steal the balls for ransom! :)

  2. nimby
    June 17, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    Danco just missed horrendously ugly by a smidge, I think they should redouble their efforts.
    Modeled after the Eureka Co-op?

  3. Labtech
    June 18, 2012 at 12:22 am

    Nimby: you have no taste. The new bldg is beautiful, with many truly progressive features. More please!

  4. June 18, 2012 at 6:10 am

    What senior in his or her right mind would want to live that close to the Plaza in the state it is in? I’m not even talking about the Halloween and New Year’s Eve bashes, but the every day nonsense and spectacle that makes the Plaza some place I don’t want to even be within sight of on a good day.

  5. Percy
    June 18, 2012 at 6:39 am

    Yup, better for our seniors to drive 20 miles and go to a wonderful mall where they can buy cheap shit at Wallmart and eat at that tasty food court. The nerve of those leftist Arcatans putting up something so European for their seniors. That’s a slap in the face of American exceptionalism. What’s going to be next, roundabouts?

  6. Vim-n-Vigor
    June 18, 2012 at 6:47 am

    “stylish and roomy” ? Did you post the right picture?

  7. Gil Yule
    June 18, 2012 at 6:54 am

    I’m a senior and I’d love to be able to live at Plaza Point. The only thing stopping me is (and I haven’t been able to say this very often) is I have too much money. It’s low-income housing. I took one of the tours offered on Saturday. It seems a well thought out development and I believe cities across our fair land could take the example on how to do it right. Super energy efficient (electric bills are anticipated at $8/mo…no gas, all solar), affordable with easy access to downtown shopping/playing. Win/win/win.

  8. just middle class
    June 18, 2012 at 7:05 am

    At only the cost of over $350,000 per unit! Check out the cost of this project.

  9. Anonymous
    June 18, 2012 at 7:29 am

    “No growth” refers to building on previously undeveloped land, not converting a parking lot to housing project (infill/smart growth). Heraldo knows it, which is why his snide sniping falls flat except among people who have no understanding of the issues.

  10. ExArcatan
    June 18, 2012 at 7:29 am

    Danco constructed Plaza Point? I take it the workmanship is poor and the City of Arcata will need to pony up a bunch of money to pay for construction deficiencies within a few years.

  11. Giggles
    June 18, 2012 at 7:30 am

    JMC honey, your price is way off… And you forgot to put a citation* to “check out the cost.” According to the treasurer of the state of California…
    $8,082,544 divided by 29 units is $ 275,862 per unit.

    Against which annual tax credits of $480,000 will result in 20 years, the entire price being funded from the credits.

    The construction of this project brought jobs and the occupancy of the unit adds value to the local economy. If you read up on the project, you’d see it’s LEED Platinum energy efficient. Electrical bills for the residents are expected to be 8 to 10 dollars per month.

    The major option besides this housing (no matter what it looks like) is homelessness for seniors. Would you prefer that? There are quite a few seniors at present roaming the streets of Eureka and living behind the new Walmart in the marsh.

    Do you like that better than new housing?

    Remember, unlike “I’ll never be forced to be a _____” (woman, minority, dittohead, etc.), you are absolutely guaranteed to get old if you don’t die first.

    So show grannie and grandpa the respect due our elders and cherish this new space for them to live.

    This “say only bad about good works” habit some of you have gotten into is unbecoming to the humans I know sit at your screen.

    Drinking and spewing the Hater-aide only diminishes you and makes our whole community look stupid.

    —————
    *http://www.treasurer.ca.gov/ctcac/staff/20100922/222.pdf

  12. Lila Jones
    June 18, 2012 at 7:30 am

    What the hell is Arcata on? PCP? It’s the ugliest, most horrendous looking “thing” I’ve seen.

  13. Dan
    June 18, 2012 at 7:47 am

    29 units?
    Parking?

    Across the street at the Coop.

  14. Anonymous
    June 18, 2012 at 8:00 am

    Arcata likes infill, and this is what that is. Arcata also likes seniors, low income housing, and clever plans. Being technically a senior, I would live there, if I needed a place. I would love being near the bars, groceries, and a walkable town. The plaza is fun!

  15. Anonymous
    June 18, 2012 at 8:26 am

    There aren’t a lot of seniors hanging out at Arcata’s bars. There’s mainly college students and riff-raff, and if you’re bothered by that characterization, it’s sugar-coated compared to how a senior would describe the Plaza’s denizens. Stuffing downtown Arcata with seniors isn’t going to wash out the unsavory elements, and, dare I think it, might lead to an increase of crime against seniors.

  16. Dan
    June 18, 2012 at 8:36 am

    “This “say only bad about good works” habit some of you have gotten into is unbecoming to the humans I know sit at your screen. Drinking and spewing the Hater-aide only diminishes you and makes our whole community look stupid.”
    Giggles

    Danco just finished a project in Manila for
    the Friends of the dunes. There they put
    the parking in “emergent wetlands.”

    Arcata, 29 units, how many bedrooms?
    Where did they put the required parking?

    I am all for it. I despise parking lots, just saying
    other builders are required to stay out of
    wetlands and show parking for living-units.

    Sorry Gigs, open your eyes.

  17. tra
    June 18, 2012 at 8:38 am

    Seems like a good project to me, and one that actually fits with peoples’ expectations for a project labeled as “Smart Growth” and “infill.”

    Compare and contrast with Foster-Gill’s proposed development in Ridgewood:

    Plaza Point: Modest in scale — 29 units, some commercial on ground floor — built by a local developer, on a vacant lot in downtown, adding customers in Arcata’s existing commercial area, and involving minimal traffic and infrastructure demands.

    Foster-Gill: Massive in scale — 1,400 units, 200,000+ square feet of commercial — built by an out-of-area developer, on productive timberland, far from downtown, drawing customers away from Eureka’s existing commercial area and into the suburbs, with massive traffic and infrastructure demands.

    Plaza Point: Smart Growth.

    Foster-Gill: “Smart” Sprawl.

  18. Anonymous
    June 18, 2012 at 8:50 am

    Just Middle Class hates Plaza Point because it drops a hydrogen bomb on his “liberal people are all no growthers” narrative. Yep. Plaza Point is a page from the same “No Growth” playbook of Arcata’s as the Giuntoli Lane industrial parks, which have stolen much of Eureka’s light industrial tax base in the last five years, while Eureka slept. That’s right. Us liberals hate all growth.

  19. Sexpistel
    June 18, 2012 at 8:51 am

    i herd on da plaza that the new places acros the coop is a frount rumor has it arould the plaza the city consel is secreitly growing a killer strian of buds man. like we should be able to get free buds man. some buds for the dogs too man. i can smell it man theigh better kick down brother city conselers or we will bust in the doors and take free buds man. Hippies and grovey people unite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and dimand free nugs man!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. firesidechet
    June 18, 2012 at 8:54 am

    Smart growth? Maybe if you have Alzheimer’s. It is an edifice to the progressive mindset. But then these are the same people who think “The Cube” is a cool looking car. Too much time staring at the sun in the good old days.

  21. Mitch
    June 18, 2012 at 8:59 am

    Giggles (7:30) seems to be in the know. Congratulations to everyone involved in Plaza Point. I realize it’s not as beautiful as Eureka’s concept for low-income housing (the Correctional Facility).

    My only concern is the income caps are so low it’s not obvious to me how anyone that meets the caps can afford the rent.

  22. TraLaLa
    June 18, 2012 at 9:00 am

    Danco just finished a project in Manila for
    the Friends of the dunes. There Tra’s Friends put
    the parking in “emergent wetlands.”

    Arcata, 29 units, how many bedrooms?
    Where did they put the required parking?

  23. Bolithio
    June 18, 2012 at 9:02 am

    Foster-Gill…on productive timberland

    Its good to know that in the face of development, logging is OK. Consistency is what we strive for.

  24. tra
    June 18, 2012 at 9:09 am

    Bolithio,

    If that comment was aimed at me, it’s a bit off the mark. I’m not opposed to all logging, nor am I opposed to all development.

  25. Bolithio
    June 18, 2012 at 9:17 am

    Oh I know TRA, its just I see that particular point as arbitrary. Mainly because ALL timberland is productive (at least in the redwood belt). In other words, at some point as we need to develop new areas, they will be occurring in ‘productive’ places. Fortunately we have an abundance of timberland. BTW – Im not really arguing in favor of Foster-gill (i dont know enough about it).

  26. tra
    June 18, 2012 at 9:22 am

    O.K., thanks for the clarification.

  27. June 18, 2012 at 9:30 am

    Your welcome, Heraldo ………

  28. Anonymous
    June 18, 2012 at 9:47 am

    “Mainly because ALL timberland is productive (at least in the redwood belt).”

    Keep in mind that Bolithio is employed in logging, and by “productive” he means “profitable for the land owner by way of stripping said land of trees”. “Productive” timberland doesn’t mean anything else.

    The word “productive” would not be used if such land were being examined in terms of ecological restoration. Practices like logging are “destructive”. Logging is “productive” only in terms of money.

  29. Anonymous
    June 18, 2012 at 10:12 am

    “Those Arcata no-growthers built stylish and roomy housing for seniors across the street from the co-op and surrounded by shops and restaurants.”

    They also left the entire first floor open to collect commercial rent “at-market rates” (market rates for commercial spaces are high enough to be extortion). Those spaces will be afforded only by whom? Only new competing shops and restaurants that can afford “at-market” commercial rent in downtown arcata. Let’s hope for some leeway and comprehension of local finances.

    Ultimate Yogurt is a national franchise in the heart of what is supposed to be revered as a franchise-free zone, and only a couple of blocks away from at least four locally owned dessert providers who were there first. What else will follow?

    It will be VERY telling to see who opens shop on the ground floor of plaza point. I hope project planners are really serious about being for the benefit of local economy, that means keeping as much commercial money circulating within the county as possible.

  30. Bolithio
    June 18, 2012 at 10:14 am

    Keep in mind that ‘Anonymous @9:47’ is a willfully ignorant asshole.

    By productive we mean that a certain amount of bio-mass can grow within a certain amount of area, and that trees can reach certain heights by a certain age. These are things you lean in school, not from environmentalist pamphlets.

  31. Anonymous
    June 18, 2012 at 10:22 am

    No, Bolithio…”productive” literally means cutting down a tree and selling it. Remove the money, the trees remain standing and you are out of a job.

  32. Bolithio
    June 18, 2012 at 10:42 am

    Literally.

    I do not think that word means what you think it means….

  33. Thorstein Veblen
    June 18, 2012 at 11:01 am

    I actually like the look of the building. I’m not one to encourage removal of parking from downtowns, but at least these lower income seniors are somewhat less likely to own a car so won’t contribute much to lack of parking. At least thats the theory. Besides, Arcata hates cars and trucks, why else would they make it continually harder to operate one within the City limits? So to make it harder to find a place to park, is probably cool with the City.

    People can (and apparently do) complain about cost per unit, but these units are designed to minimize external costs, i.e., the impact on the rest of society is lessened as fewer continually consumable resources are used.

  34. Anonymous
    June 18, 2012 at 11:03 am

    Literally, Bolithio: http://tinyurl.com/6vyu325

  35. High Finance
    June 18, 2012 at 11:23 am

    Drastically raising the cost per unit means that fewer & fewer Senior Citizens will have these units available for them as government has limited “consumable resources” (tax revenues) available to them.

    $275,000 per unit is outrageous, you could build a nice house these days for that amount instead of just an apartment. If the cost per unit was half of that 58 seniors could have benefited instead of just 29.

  36. Bolithio
    June 18, 2012 at 11:38 am

    11:03:

    http://tinyurl.com/87952rk

    Rainforests once covered 14% of the earth’s land surface; now they cover a mere 6% and experts estimate that the last remaining rainforests could be consumed in less than 40 years.

    http://www.thinkglobalgreen.org/deforestation.html

  37. Smart 5th Grader
    June 18, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    Highly Mistaken. Have you been to Arcata, the yuppy capital of Humboldt County? They definitely don’t want SSI Seniors moving in, only the well-heeled, like yourself. Can’t have any poor senior citizens panhandling on the Plaza!

  38. NoParking
    June 18, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    12 off-street parking spaces.
    29 units.
    6 downstairs office fronts.

    Where are the required parking spaces?

  39. Yuro
    June 18, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    Geogeous building and another step in the right direction. Great job Danco.

  40. Anonymous
    June 18, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    So consider your participation locally, Bolithio, and stop being a cheerleader for clearcutting in this county, of all places.

  41. Thorstein Veblen
    June 18, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    Yup, you can buy a lot of electricity for $275K. I once knew a guy who always bought the old, surplussed highway patrol cars for a pittance, run them till they broke down for good, then buy another. I asked him about mileage, and he’d say he could buy an awful lot of gas for as cheap as the car cost. Didnt do much for the planet as he spewed toxins into the air and contributed to demand for petroleum, but he thought it was a dandy scheme.

    As for parking, I’m pretty sure downtown Arcata, like many cities, doesn’t require on-site parking for development of new commercial space, only for residential units. And developers can sometimes get even those requirements waived or lessened if the city likes the project.

  42. Not A Native
    June 18, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    In addition to housing, the building has four commerical spaces. Three have tenants already, Pilates, Surf Shop, and Rita’s grocery store. Hardly upscale enterprises, and all local. The building also has a commerical kitchen that the Co-op will share use of. Its misleading to calculate the price per unit using the whole project cost. Commercial space is much more valuable than living space.

    What really is actually annoying the naysayers here is the thought that people in this area gladly choose to live in this style. People living in apartments are supposed to be either saving to move to a ‘real’ place or desperate, unhappy undesirables yearning to live on five acre lots way out of town.

    The sight of happy and fulfilled residents of this building will erode local poliitical and social support for funding the impacts created by people living in far flung areas, totally dependent on daily commuting and parking.

  43. Anonymous
    June 18, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    Got the place with 5 acres across town and would love to downsize to a place where I can walk around town and no grass to cut.

  44. Joel Mielke
    June 18, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    If Heraldo needs help with his rustic speech, he might want to go to this page and hit the “hillbilly” link.

  45. June 18, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    ARCATA /Yuppy/ Hippy/ College Town–a great place to live
    Plaza Point will bbe available at a rea sonable price to Seniors..
    PROBLEMS:Fear of Plaza–I lived by the Plaza for eight years
    and talked to all kinds of people–no problem
    PARKING PROBLEMSWalk.ride bus
    CONS TRUCTION–Dam co builds well on a large scale

  46. Wonder Bread
    June 18, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    It looks just like the Arkley building on 5th Street with Starbucks, or Disney Architecture, which is actually Faux-Americana. Pretty hideous.

  47. Anonymous
    June 18, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    Why bullshit, it’s the exact same cookie cutter architecture seen in new developments all over the state.

  48. anonymous
    June 18, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    Bring back P.C. Sacchi’s Chevrolet/Buick and Opal. And while you’re at it, bring back Brizzard’s, Ben Franklin, Kelly’s Jewelers, Bistrin’s, Ned’s Men’s Wear, Hornbrook Shoes, The Dinner Bell, The Boot, Varsity Ice Cream, Western Auto, and Purity Foods.

  49. jr
    June 18, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    The trend today is to make a single commercial building look like several individual buildings like one would find in a big city.

  50. Anonymous
    June 18, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    I am sure all of those places didn’t want to leave, 4:15! A reminder to shop local!

  51. Anonymous
    June 18, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    I would rather seen apts that look like individual buildings than a big square box apt building. If this is low income, more power to the builder for trying to make it attractive as well as economical.

  52. Anonymous
    June 18, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    “It looks just like the Arkley building on 5th Street with Starbucks”

    Is that really an “arkley” building? I don’t buy into the whole arkley drama…but real estate is real estate and logging is logging and the businesses do both. Have they no shame, outsourcing business ownership dollars?

  53. Anonymous
    June 18, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    “The trend today is to make a single commercial building look like several individual buildings like one would find in a big city.”

    The more things change, the more they stay the same. Intelligent people aren’t fooled by such masquerades. On what was once forested terrain are now three stories worth of radiant heat altering the climate when the natural world is making this area cold and vice versa every year. There are now three stories of “water saving” toilets flushing hundreds of gallons of water daily, showers soaking thousands of gallons of water in chemicals daily, three stories worth of light bulbs, refridgerators, ovens, microwaves, televisions, computers, ovens, washing machines etc. There is now an entire block of new trinket sales stations to compete for the dwindling expendable incomes of the surrounding population. Etc…

    And what are we supposedly calling for if we don’t support this? Completely undeveloped land becoming the exact same thing in one form or another…as all of history until this very second demonstrates.

    “Zero growth” is not only necessary, it’s sane…whereas the status quo continues to prove its insanity.

  54. agogymous
    June 18, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    DANCO seems to succeed where other property developers fail:

    Legally.

  55. brother@ bistrin.org
    June 18, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    As usual, HiFi finds a way to piss on a useful development. Think how many seniors we could house if they simply piled old used shipping containers in a steel frame — only perhaps $5000 a box or less. And of course that’s more what those shiftless, welfare-dependent, economically useless old folks deserve, right HiFi?

  56. Anonymous
    June 18, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    It’s what the City has been striving for, folks. Infill. Get it? Putting people where there was already development and either developing an unused and probably already concreted space (a parking lot, like this one) or filling in someone’s back yard, instead of the outlying cow pastures that are now being reserved for, well, cattle. Even goats, if the neighbors aren’t jerks and understand what zoning means.

  57. jr
    June 18, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    Anonymous at 6:29pm has valid points, but one must ask the question of where can a population that is growing daily live? I contend that it is better on the environment to in-fill, but wherever the development occurs there will be environmental issues. This problem will be with us until such time as we achieve zero population growth.

  58. Dan
    June 19, 2012 at 6:16 am

    “agogymous says:
    June 18, 2012 at 6:40 pm
    DANCO seems to succeed where other property developers fail:

    Legally.”

    Parking lots in wetlands, where is that legal?

  59. June 19, 2012 at 6:43 am

    I don’t think it’s speaking “bad words” about good works. I’m all for the ideas behind it. I just think it is poorly placed. There’s the Arcata people pretend exists, and then there is the reality of the Arcata that is there. I wouldn’t want my grandmother or mother living on the plaza.

  60. High Finance
    June 19, 2012 at 7:07 am

    Is that the only option you can see Bistrin ? $5,000 or $275,000 per person ? You must work for the government.

    Bet you were one of the many who complained about the federal government spending $15,000 on a hammer.

  61. Down the Road
    June 19, 2012 at 7:10 am

    What concerns me and has for a long time is Danco and how much
    their good works cost the taxpayer. For a few years, exact time
    unknown, Jeff Smith a then employee of Danco, sat on the Eureka
    Redevelopment Board and the Humboldt County Planning Commission. During this time I am curious to know, how many
    grants were awarded and/or tax breaks did Danco get for low cost
    housing. I saw them building in Willowcreek, Fortuna and Eureka. If taxpayer’s money was used and they are getting tax breaks, I
    would think a audit during the years a Danco employee sat on
    the above boards would be a correct move. The question is,
    conflict of interest, as the employee had voting power.

  62. 713
    June 19, 2012 at 7:31 am

    Jeff Smith is a person of great integrity. The county performs audits every year. I seriously doubt he voted on Danco projects.

  63. Dan
    June 19, 2012 at 7:59 am

    713, new to Humboldt or eyes wide closed?
    “I seriously doubt he voted on Danco projects.”
    Maybe Down The Road can verify conflict, conflict of
    interest
    that’s my bet. I am sure Jeff is a good man,
    but hey it’s Humboldt, honesty, transparency and
    fairness are immediate casualties of our
    local governments, sorry I’ve seen too much,
    a bit jaded these days.

  64. anonymous
    June 19, 2012 at 9:00 am

    Perhaps we should change the saying “No law north of the Klamath” to “No law north of the Eel.”

  65. Ms. Manners
    June 19, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Down the Road and Dan; if you are that concerned that Danco or Jeff Smith broke the law in getting these projects thru, then file a complaint with the FPPC or whoever, rather than just insinuating and spreading nasty gossip. Remember, false witness is a sin.

    When the government at one level or another wants a developer to do something, and then the developer does it with whatever incentives are offered, then I don’t see how you can complain much about how the developer did the project with those incentives. We, collectively, wanted Danco to do this project and gave incentives to do it. Get it?

    Do away with the program and public subsidies if you like. But to complain when someone does what we want them to do is just dumb.

  66. June 19, 2012 at 9:17 am

    tra made me ” blue ” because I’m special . Oh, i know ” he didn’t know he could make me ” blue ” . L.O.L.

  67. Humboldt Native
    June 19, 2012 at 9:38 am

    To Dan:
    Danco didn’t design the Friends of the Dunes (FOTD) project in Manila. They bid for the work along with other contractors, and built the project. FOTD designed the layout and the location of the parking lot with Arcata architect K. Boodjeh.

  68. June 19, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Architecture fitting of Emeryville. Right up there with the butt ugly Eureka Co-op. This is what happens when an architect is bored and they pile all their “creativity” in one project. This building has zero chance of aging gracefully.

  69. Fact Checker
    June 19, 2012 at 10:57 am

    10:07 Exactly. And the 5th Street Starbucks *is* owned by and was built for Robyn Arkley Junior as well as the Eureka Co-op, which Junior owns and leases to the Co-op. Welcome to Arkleyville!

  70. anonymous
    June 19, 2012 at 11:55 am

    Insinuation? Jeff Smith was CFO of Danco while Chairing the Humboldt County Planning Commission and at the same time he was on the Eureka Redevelopment agency. He may be a “swell guy” but it sure seems like it could be a conflict. Used to watch Arcata meetings and wonder why Danco got most the projects being built.

  71. Dan
    June 19, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    Miss Manners and Nan.
    Simple questions, who is allowed to build parking-lots
    in Coastal Act wetlands?

    Where are the required parking spaces for the
    29 residential units and new businesses added to the
    already stressed parking situation in downtown Arcata?

    Have you a sense of what fairness means?

    Greenwash, all you want, this will leave a stain.

  72. Dan
    June 19, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    Down the Road, it’s worse than that.
    Manila is being strong armed by LAFCO
    to Annex Samoa.
    Does anyone know who/what is pushing
    this nightmare?

    Manila Manager Chris Drop informed me that
    Manila may not be allowed to protest and that
    it is up to LAFCO.

    RIP CEQA.

  73. Down the Road
    June 19, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    The audits are for the verification that a certain accounting system
    is used. There are no in depth audits done, it would be cost
    prohibitive.

    As defined by the Political Reform Act, a Redevelopment Advisory
    Board whose recommendations are routinely accepted becomes
    the defacto decision makers. Its members are ineligible to participate in redevelopment projects, and recusal has no bearing
    on this fact.

    A audit would have to be done, to ascertain whether Danco was awarded contracts through redevelopment. If, this was found to be true, in all probability a civil suit would have to be initiated. This is
    what keeps the public from pursuing suspected wrongdoings.

  74. Ms. Manners
    June 19, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    I love it, DTR, its brilliant, actually! You know they did wrong and illegal stuff, yet have a built in excuse to not do anything about it. Except write unsubstantiated smears on a blog. Its perfect.

  75. Humboldt Native
    June 19, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    Anonymous,
    I am no Danco homer, but please learn some facts.
    Danco gets the projects because they are the only local company who has invested the time and money to gain the experience required to qualify as an affordable builder. Since these projects are wanted by municipalities, necessary, and mandated by law, isn’t it better for your neighbor to get a paycheck for building them than an out of town developer and subcontractors? The money stays local.

  76. High Finance
    June 19, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    My previous comments are no reflection on Danco (that company does some great work) but rather government types who have no concept of cost or efficiency.

  77. picky picky
    June 19, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    I miss the sunlight in the Coop parking lot. I like the idea of low income housing for elderly that is close to everything.

    The building is a little large for the surroundings, but the different colors help. That lime green color is awful. Pick another shade of green, and I’ll be OK with the whole thing.

  78. anonymous
    June 19, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Miss Manners I suppose you have the time and money to go after the corruption in Humboldt? No? Well neither does anyone else around here.

  79. Jack Sherman
    June 22, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    Straw bale homes are proven efficient, long lasting, and you can build a 4 bedroom unit for under $30,000.

    The only problem is getting a city council, or county government elected with developer $ to approve them.

    The local development community is not going to allow anything to interfere with their windfall of public subsidies for big homes with big profit margins on cheap land 10 miles from downtown.

    They’ve lined their pockets on our decayed infrastructure since 1980 in 2 housing booms. Nothing seems capable of stopping their fight to begin the 3rd. Even local media dares not to connect the dots.

    Plaza Point development is everything they fear. It provides a daily visual reminder that our limited public infrastructure and housing programs are more efficient and badly needed. At least 200 local senior-applicants understand this as they await selection for 29 units.

    Maybe “HumCpr” will publish a front page article explaining again how most people hate infill.

  80. Anonymous
    June 22, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    God, you’re such an extreme leftie. You can’t even see the truth through your clouded lenses.

  81. Anonymous
    June 22, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    Hi Finance and Humboldt Native speak truly about what is going on here in this instance. Danco actually isn’t too flush with cash. They have a very small profit margin.

  82. Anonymous
    June 22, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    That’s right!

    If Danco ever wants to be REALLY successful they’ll get on the deep-pocket gravy train, and join all the others ready to start the next housing boom building high-profit, big home sprawl!

    Once financed and sold, who cares that these over-valued McMansions can be bundled and sold around the world?

    Uncle Sam knows which side of the bread to butter when it crashes the world economy….and it ain’t the working poor, retiring poor and college-graduated poor.

  83. Shayne
    June 28, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    Comment deleted.

  84. tra
    June 28, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    7:20,

    How about you just go ahead and move out now, you rancid piece of shit.

  85. redwolf@hotmail.com
    July 6, 2012 at 8:59 am

    their easey to rob them just klim over to the porches and in the slidng doors. weve ban talking bout doing it and tyron has done it all over berkley and says its easey.

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