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Local crazy talk gets national attention

Or rather, a kooky conspiracy theory spouted by local developer types is included in a list compiled by The AtlanticInside Agenda 21: The International Tyranny of Bike Lanes.

Humboldt joins Georgia, North Carolina and El Dorado County (among others) as places where Republicans are raving about a wicked plot to make people embrace ideas like sustainable growth and non-motorized transportation.

From the article:

Agenda 21 is right now an important issue that is being passionately debated in many state legislatures around the country, but it’s mostly been ignored by our national leaders and the press. It is being ignored because it is an insane conspiracy theory… [Agenda 21] makes your standard calls for sustainable growth — energy conservation and all that. “Principle 1: Human beings are at the centre of concerns for sustainable development. They are entitled to a healthy and productive life in harmony with nature.”

But to some conservatives, all that do-gooder speak is actually just a cover for something much more sinister: the creation of a new one world government.

In Eureka, the lunacy started early this month with an op-ed by Kay Backer, spokeswoman for local Republican big shot Rob Arkley.  Since then, failed Humboldt County Supervisor candidate Karen Brooks has taken up the bell-ringing in spirited wave of public comments and opinion pieces.

Not long ago Arkley and friends were trying to convince you that his proposed big box mall was “smart growth.”  Perhaps they were possessed by the devil. Or at least the U.N.

  1. Jack Sherman
    June 24, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    Yes, it seems they’re on-board when “Smart-Growth” serves their pecuniary interests.

    Too bad they cannot expand their imagination, like so many others around the globe, and embrace the inevitable, and profitable, green-economy like the other civilizations on Earth are rapidly doing.

    Unfortunately, it might take a gazillionaire do-gooder to show us how to catchup to Germany…

    This is because our politicians, and their corporate backers, are too busy maintaining dwindling public subsidies needed to continue outdated technologies and avoid costly innovation, retooling and competition.

  2. unanonymous
    June 25, 2012 at 2:54 am


  3. Good Heavens
    June 25, 2012 at 5:50 am

    Be sure and refer to Cheryl Seidner and Clif Clendenen as “failed Humboldt County Supervisor candidates” any time you mention them.

  4. Anonymous
    June 25, 2012 at 6:01 am

    Yes, it is unfortunate how Heraldos’ message is frequently lost because it is drenched in hyperbole.

  5. just middle class
    June 25, 2012 at 7:30 am

    As usual, Heraldo is attempting to paint everything a conspiracy by Arkley and probably with Walmart backing. Don’t expect a serious discussion here.

  6. Bedtime for Bonzo
    June 25, 2012 at 7:50 am

    WTF? An Asian looking man with a green colored UN helmet just came to my door to tell me I can’t use any more gas to power my computer as I have gone over my daily usage quota. I argue and point out that his personel carrier uses way more than that in a few seconds and he butts me to the ground and screams “Re-education Camp for you nasty blog commenter”! As they pin my arms and bind them with those plastic ties, I say, “Wahoo, it’s the California/Nevada desert for me!” and he says “No, you go to underground place for bloggers all prepared for you!”… as they drive me away I can see my unpermitted home being ransacked and destroyed, my computer goes away under a soldier’s arm, and then I am blindfolded. I hear my eco-crime policeman talking to his comrade “That hippie never change generator oil, very bad for environment, but what he say on blogs is just filth–better for world to take him away.”

  7. June 25, 2012 at 7:51 am

    Uh, it’s your people who are pushing the grand UN mind control conspiracy. I’m simply pointing out a bit of Arkley inconsistency.

  8. Just Middle Finance
    June 25, 2012 at 7:59 am

    It is well known that the Left Agenda is a One World Socialist Government. As opposed to the Conservative Agenda of Freedom of Commerce in every city, town and hamlet around the world. Let every man, woman, and child compete for every job. Let every businessman go forth and create jobs. Let Freedom Ring!

  9. June 25, 2012 at 9:43 am

    We should have the freedom to tank the economy in the name of politics. We are free to invent money through the international banksters and then take it all back as that much money doesn’t really exist. This is what freedom is. A green economy would benefit everyone, not just the banksters and we can’t have that.

  10. retired guy
    June 25, 2012 at 10:01 am

    If there is any type of conspiracy, It’s a “conspiracy” of the rich to rule the rest of us 1%! If you doubt this, all you need to do is look at the “United” decision of the Supreme Court, the gobs of money the super rich and corporations are pouring into local and national elections, and, the right wing lies that are repeated over and over again in the various media.

    The right leaning blitz that is taking place is strictly for the benefit of the richest and most powerful and influential of our inhabitants, period. There is no concern for anything other than maximizing the bottom line for profits of those who already have too much. Environment? Screw that! Helping the destitute? Screw them. Working for the betterment of all of our society? Screw that.

    It’s a sad situation where divide and conquer is the game played by the rich and powerful. The sad thing is that the average middle class citizen has yet to see this “conspiracy”. Hopefully, before election time, voters will see through all the distortions being promulgated, and react in a way that provides for the betterment of our whole society, not just the rich.

  11. Eric Kirk
    June 25, 2012 at 10:14 am

    Certainly anybody who Brooks or gave her money has some explaining to do.

  12. High Finance
    June 25, 2012 at 10:14 am

    It must be sad to live with so much hate Retired Guy. Living life as a victim is counter productive.

  13. Anonymous
    June 25, 2012 at 10:28 am

    But what did he say that was inaccurate, High?

  14. Just Middle Finance
    June 25, 2012 at 10:54 am

    Retired Guy 10:01. True, you need to compete with Third World children for jobs and inflation-creep is killing your standard of living but this is the emerging 21st Century Economy. There will be a period of adjustment, but over time all the employees of the world will be on a level playing field. One World Capitalism. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and everything will be fine.

  15. High Finance
    June 25, 2012 at 11:11 am

    There is a reason why the words “conspiracy” and “kooks” are used at the same time so often 10.28am.

  16. Voter
    June 25, 2012 at 11:17 am

    The developers are just sour that the public supports rules for reasonable development that protects the environment. Big surprise, developers don’t like what the public thinks. That’s why Arkley torpedoed the City of Eureka’s plan to have public input on how the Balloon Track should be developed.

    Unlike the City of Fort Bragg, where the cleanup and redevelopment of the old G-P mill site is moving forward–no lawsuits, no appeals to the Coastal Commission. I’m starting to think Arkley doesn’t really want to develop the Balloon Track–he just wants a political battle.

    It’s getting old, Rob.

  17. Agogymous
    June 25, 2012 at 11:24 am

    “Be sure and refer to Cheryl Seidner and Clif Clendenen as “failed Humboldt County Supervisor candidates” any time you mention them.”

    Cheryl’s cheer, courage, education and experience could not compete with a year’s headstart and $300,000. Seidner ’16!

  18. Jack Sherman
    June 25, 2012 at 11:30 am

    Thanks to the early posters who, once again, expose their inability to actually read and understand a point before spewing their Reich-Wing hate and ignorance.

    “But what did he (Retired Guy) say that was inaccurate, High?”

    Careful 10:28, you’re challenging one of them to think beyond bitter, satirical quips.

  19. Wally
    June 25, 2012 at 11:48 am

    That’s where the thousands of people riding the two Highway 101 bike lanes and the Eureka to Indianola (not to Arcata because they pulled their funding out) bike trail. They are Arkley goons on the lookout for downtrodden growers. I assume sustainable growth is something that can be smoked.

  20. just middle class
    June 25, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    Cheryl is not a viable candidate with only getting 29%. The excuses of short time and little money do not make up for a bad show in the election.
    Downtrodden growers? What are you talking about?

  21. Just Middle Finance
    June 25, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    Yeah, “short time and little money” is only an “excuse” to not win an election, not a reason. Pull up your Bootstraps Libtards, the Age of Bohn is coming!

  22. Anonymous
    June 25, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    So you’ve called him a hater and a conspiracy kook, but what did he say that wasn’t true, HiFi?

  23. retired guy
    June 25, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    HiFi–As a couple of astute bloggers asked–What was inaccurate about my “hateful” comments. Correction HiFi–It was not hate, it was a cautionary comment on the state of what’s going on in our country. Some are blind, and you are one of those.

    Please respond to my “hate” filled comments as to there inaccuracy. There is more, by the way. Are hard core right wingers blind to the harm they are causing, and want to continue causing? Why do they want a larger percentage of what they already get? Why do they insist on less taxes, when they are paying less than under Reagan, their hero?

    There are many more questions regarding the Right Wing agenda, and should you comment on those already raised, I’d be happy to provide you with more.

  24. Anonymous
    June 25, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    As many as he wants, just like you jagob.

  25. Eric Kirk
    June 25, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    Downtrodden growers? What are you talking about?

    This is a reference to what was recently termed “an unholy alliance between developers and marijuana growers” as a BOS meeting. The “downtrodden” reference is one of irony, referring to what is perceived by the controlled growth/”urban” environmentalist crowd as a victim mentality around the General Plan Update stoked up by a grand sense of entitlement. And so the quip about Arkley finding “downtrodden growers” to champion was a sarcastic reference to the political process by which the current coalition has taken the BOS majority.

    Mind you, while I think there is a ring of truth to the theme, it is an oversimplification. But I have to admire the skill by which HumCPR of old scooped up people, some of whom had formerly been tree-huggers, by conflating the issues of the Code Enforcement abuses with the TPZ moratorium and GPU.

    Fortunately for the new coalition, the election is over. But Karen Brooks is signalling that she probably won’t run again for Third District Supervisor now, and she’s willing to push an agenda that might fray the edges of the rural homesteader/developer coalition. Aside from a few posters like TRA, they’re staying pretty quiet for the moment, hoping that Ms. Brooks will quiet down by the next election. The conservative posters here are trying to deflect the discussion away from the crazy element. Virginia has to think carefully about how she responds to the letter. I’m sure that Robot over in her camp was waving its arms and exclaiming “danger willl robinson” when she got the letter.

  26. Just Middle Finger
    June 25, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Ms. Brooks didn’t campaign on this type of stuff. Was awfully quiet about the looney-tunes part of her thinking. Now free to speak her actual mind, I guess.

  27. TimH
    June 25, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    What does “sustainable community” or “sustainable growth” mean in the context of the general plan?

  28. Dan
    June 25, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    On the coast, under the Coastal Act,
    it means just what it says.
    We are mandated to treat our coastline
    as a public resource, and ONLY sustainable use is allowed.

    An example of non-sustainable use would be the
    ‘restoration projects’ that have dominated our coastal policies for too long now. We gave these galoots functioning wetlands
    to ‘weed’ they return to us non-functioning wetlands er, deserts.

    Pretense as the trees die.

  29. tra
    June 25, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    In her recent interview on KSLG, Karen Brooks worried that “ruling elites” at the U.N. level are improperly influencing local decision-making here in Humboldt County — yet the only evidence of any local involvement that she pointed to is that two county supervisors, Clif Clendenen and Mark Lovelace, apparently signed on to a completely non-binding set of ideas. She portrayed this as a scandal, and a menace.

    Her portrayl of the situation just doesn’t make any sense to me. Non-binding means just that, non-binding. Neither Lovelace nor Clendenen bound themselves to vote any certain way on specific policy decisions that came before them on the Board of Supervisors, just because they signed on in support of a broad set of ideas. It just means that, in general, they support those ideas and were willing to make that support explicit ( and from the point of view of the voters, isn’t that better than if their elected officials supported a particular set of ideas, but kept their views a secret?).

    At any rate, those two supervisors signing on in support of some broad set of ideas certainly doesn’t commit their fellow county supervisors to support those ideas, and it certainly doesn’t amount to any of them ceding their decision-making powers to some global organization or network, or shadowy conspiracy or whatever. All the same policy choices still reside in local hands.

    In this case, Brooks is not just making a mountain out of a molehill, she’s making a continent out of a grain of sand. Between this conspiratorial nonsense, and her ill-informed views on climate change, she’s really giving the impression of a person who’s worldview has become grotesquely distorted by ideology and who has abandoned all but the thinnest pretense af critical thinking in approaching these issues.

    While they might be too polite to admit it, I’ll bet Bass, Sundberg, Fennell, and Bohn are probably quite relieved not to have her serve alongside them on the Board of Supervisors.

  30. Eric Kirk
    June 25, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    Oh, I’m sure they would much rather have her than Mark. She probably wouldn’t be pushing this theme.

  31. jr
    June 25, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    Tra, any thoughts on WHY she would be pushing this agenda?

  32. Jefferson Would Be Proud
    June 25, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    Fostering dialogue by marginalizing diverse viewpoints. Thanks, Humboldt Herald, for showing us the true meaning of democracy.

  33. tra
    June 25, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    “Oh, I’m sure they would much rather have her than Mark – crazy and all.”

    I doubt it. If I were in their shoes, I’d be relieved that she didn’t win her race. As a practical matter, sometimes an “ally” who more or less agrees with you on some policies, but turns out to be way, way over at the wingnut end of the spectrum, can often be way more annoying, disruptive, and counterproductive to your goals compared to an “opponent” who simply disagrees with you on certain policies. Especially when you have the know you’re likely to have votes to just out-vote the opponent on many of the issues that matter most to you.

  34. tra
    June 25, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    “Tra, any thoughts on WHY she would be pushing this agenda?”

    Well, I guess I would assume is sincere in her concerns, just badly misguided in terms of buying into this U.N.-domination-of-local-governments conspiracy stuff.

    As to the broader question of why people choose to believe in far-fetched conspiracy theories for which the “evidence” is weak or non-existent, and the connections between supposed conspirators are extremely vague and/or distant, there are various psychological and sociological theories that try to account for the phenomenon.

    For whatever reason, certain people just seem to have a strong need to organize their beliefs in such a way as to group all those people, ideas, and organizations they disagree with and fear into one identifiable force. And it strikes me that these folks seem to derive some kind of psychological satisfaction from believing that they have been able to recognize the hidden connections that reveal the “real” truth when so many others remain “duped” by the supposed conspirators.

  35. Anonymous
    June 25, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    “Fostering dialogue by marginalizing diverse viewpoints.”

    HAHA! Fringe views don’t have to be marginalized. You must be one of those who believes all views have equal validity.

  36. Eric Kirk
    June 25, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    Again, she kept it hidden throughout the campaign. I’m sure she’d keep it hidden while in office. Kind of like Ramsey Clarke.

  37. Anonymous
    June 25, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    You gotta wonder what kind of jokes go around the table when rex bohn gets fucked up with his buddies.

  38. tra
    June 25, 2012 at 5:21 pm


    Maybe so. I agree with you that she would probably have toned down the rhetoric a bit if elected. But some of the loopy stuff would probably still have leaked out at the edges, at least at times. Some of the Tea Party nuts who won a seat in Congress have “let their freak flags fly” on stuff like Birtherism, Shariaphobia, etc. At any rate, now that the other supervisors know what wingnuttery lurks within…

    Of course it’s all kind of academic anyway, because she never had any kind of real chance of unseating Lovelace. But I bet she would have lost by an even more crushing margin if she had showcased some of these more far-out beliefs during the campaign.

  39. High Finance
    June 25, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    Oh for Pete’s sake. Is anything Karen Brooks said any kookier than the left wing conspiracy dribble we hear here every day ?

  40. 713
    June 25, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    so is agenda 21 in the plan or not? i didn’t see it listed in any of the chapters or in the forward.

  41. tra
    June 25, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    “Is anything Karen Brooks said any kookier than the left wing conspiracy dribble…”

    Sure, there’s plenty of equally-kooky left-wing conspiracy out there, but I haven’t heard anything even close to this nutty coming from any other recent candidates for Humboldt County Supervisor. That’s why it’s notable.

  42. High Finance
    June 25, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    As far as to what Retired Guy said at 10.01am that was so kooky ?

    Anybody even asking the question needs to reexamine their thinking processes. To suggest the “1%” gets together to conspire to keep everybody else poor is just stupid. The 1% includes many liberals like Soros, Buffet and Gates. The 1% is not a monolith but a bunch of individuals and many of them don’t have anything in common with each other or even know each other. And even the worst of them couldn’t care less about keeping you poor, their aim is to improve their fortune.

    The “gobs of money the super rich and corporations” aren’t just going to the Republicans. Soros has donated at least a hundred million dollars over the years to the Dems & left wing causes.
    A while back I posted links that showed something like 40% of corporate political money was donated to the Dems while over 90% of the union money was donated to the Dems.

    There is plenty of money being donated to both sides.

    And Retired Guy, the least you could be is honest. To deny your post as containing hatred is beyond a lie. How could anybody make such charges and not hate the people they alledge are doing such terrible things.

  43. Anonymous
    June 25, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    “There is plenty of money being donated to both sides.”

    Bullshit so pure as to smell so sweet.

  44. Eric Kirk
    June 25, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    There are some crazy left wing conspiracy theorists, but nobody’s writing $1000 checks to support their campaigns for elected office.

  45. firesidechet
    June 25, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    So called “smart growth” is based on the erroneous premise that the we are running out of resources, and that gaia earth is mad at the USA for being cavalier about our exceptional economic success.Unfortunately,the left eats this shit up like granola. They have too much of their identity invested in seeing bad things happen.The ultimate irony is that Al Gore is the one who is “playing on our fears”. Check out the whore monger’s speech about Bush “playing on our fears”, – there can be little doubt that he is a emotionally driven ego maniacal psychopath. And so the abusive stepfather to our smart growth movement has them all shaking in the sandals anxiously awaiting the next uptick (or down tick) of the thermometer.

  46. Anonymous
    June 25, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    TimH says:
    June 25, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    What does “sustainable community” or “sustainable growth” mean in the context of the general plan?

    Really TimH? Your Agenda 21 is showing.

  47. Anonymous
    June 25, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    Brian Morissey is history at Security National. Dated piece.

  48. June 25, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    Dated and relevant. Arkley can’t erase his past promotion that his big box mall was smart growth.

  49. What Now
    June 26, 2012 at 1:41 am

    High Finance says:
    June 25, 2012 at 6:32 pm
    Oh for Pete’s sake. Is anything Karen Brooks said any kookier than the left wing conspiracy dribble we hear here every day ?

    each and everyone one of your feeble contentions, ‘Fried.

  50. Dan
    June 26, 2012 at 6:41 am

    Sure, there’s plenty of equally-kooky left-wing conspiracy out there, but I haven’t heard anything even close to this nutty coming from any other recent candidates for Humboldt County Supervisor. That’s why it’s notable.” Tra

    Sheesh Tra open your eyes.
    Your pal Mark Lovelace had vegetation
    stripped off our coastline, well after all
    sane folks were well aware of sea-level rise.
    Go ahead Tra tell us which will eventually
    be more harmful, Karen and her conspiracy theory
    or your Friends stripping our coastline?

    Never did make it out to look, did you?

  51. Anonymous
    June 26, 2012 at 6:50 am

    “You gotta wonder what kind of jokes go around the table when rex bohn gets fucked up with his buddies.”

    Rex owned a bar in the 70’s and 80’s, The Fourth Street Connection, on 5th between F and G. Nicknamed (of course) “Bohner”, Rex had a predictable sense of humor. “Hey” he told one customer — “I saw your ex-wife the other night. Not bad — once you get past the used part!” (HAW HAW).

    That’s your new county supervisor. Enjoy…

  52. 713
    June 26, 2012 at 7:03 am

    Interesting comment from the comments section under the article:

    21 hours ago
    So you’re seriously saying that if you haven’t heard of something (Agenda 21) you can’t be participating in it? Planners and a myriad of consultants that are involved in regional policy making are being taught and are teaching “sustainable development” and in many cases local leaders are acting upon the suggestions of these planners and consultants unaware of the roots of the philosophy that’s driving their planning ideas. It’s interesting how many of the posters here deny that any of this is happening but then simultaneously defend the details of it happening. Are communities being remade into compact, high density, walkable, bikable, pedestrian oriented communities based around a focus on restricting the use of fossil fuels and carbon and promoting a sense of community well being or is that all just the crazy ramblings of tea party conspiracy theorists? You can’t have it both ways either its really happening and it’s based in the doctrine of sustainable development or its not happening and a ton of taxpayer money is being wasted on sustainable planning…

    hide 1 reply reply

  53. High Finance
    June 26, 2012 at 7:05 am

    You forget to mention 6.50am, that Rex was in his early 20’s when he supposedly said that.

    You also forgot to mention that you were there and you laughed.

    People can tell lies by making up shit or they can tell lies by omitting facts and telling just half the story like you just did.

  54. 650
    June 26, 2012 at 7:14 am

    I was indeed there, HF. And Rex was in his late twenties.
    I did not laugh. Rex is your kind of guy. Enjoy!

  55. just middle class
    June 26, 2012 at 7:57 am

    I remember once when Rex was 4 and he said……..
    Now that will ruin him for the rest of his life.

  56. Agogymous
    June 26, 2012 at 9:08 am

    Character counts.

  57. justanothergoodoldboy
    June 26, 2012 at 9:56 am

    650 and agogymous. Yes character does count. On one side we have a guy that for 30 years has devoted himself to his community and public service. On the other side we have a bunch of anon whiners and backstabbers. He won, the end. Don’t get to upset, Ralph is still on planning and Mark is still on BOS. Your views are still being expressed. Hopefully this county gets shifted into high gear with job creation/real regulation not this garbage progressive stuff that makes no sense/productivity.
    Facts don’t count here so I wonder why anyone bothers.

  58. Agogymous
    June 26, 2012 at 9:58 am

    Time will tell.

  59. Anonymous
    June 26, 2012 at 10:09 am

    “On one side we have a guy that for 30 years has devoted himself to his community and public service.”

    That’s all well and good, but that guy wasn’t a county supervisor and that guy also tried to get everybody to buy into the same walmart he now pretends is bad for “our community”. That’s just the tip of the iceberg with “that guy”. 130,000 people in this county, how many are anonymous to you justanothergoodoldboy? Not the one you’re patting on the back, I guess.

  60. retired guy
    June 26, 2012 at 11:18 am

    Yeah, HiFi–The 99% along with the unions can easily match the dollars being spent by corps and the mega wealthy–Not!

    Don’t you read or listen to the radio or watch TV? Rove along with all the other right wing Zealots and the “Superpacs” etc., are raising dollars that up until now have been unheard of. You can thank the Supremes for this development. Whose pocket do you think the five “Conservative” members are in? The playing field is indeed not level and the unions ability along with the 99% absolutely can’t match what’s going on with the “Right”.

    This development is not a good thing for the country. I sincerely believe that the monied interests who are involved in what’s happening regarding these huge sums of money, are not doing it for the good of the country. They are doing it for themselves. Are you so blind as to not see this?

  61. Anonymous
    June 26, 2012 at 11:20 am

    Heraldo is obsessed with anything loosely assoicated with Arkley.

    Give it a rest.

  62. June 26, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Anonymous is obsessed with defending Arkley’s hypocrisy. Give it a rest.

    Hey, Rob wants you to support the Marina Center because it’s smart growth. Or so he says.

  63. Anonymous
    June 26, 2012 at 11:46 am

    Oh, and don’t forget about that “green port” too.

  64. High Finance
    June 26, 2012 at 11:55 am

    Retired Guy has fallen for the lib propaganda.

    “The 2012 Money Race: Compare th Candidates”
    Money raised as of May 31, 2012;

    Obama $269 million
    Romney 122 million

    Same time period from past election;

    Obama $234.9 million
    Clinton 175.7 million
    Romney 65.2
    McCain 75.4


  65. Jack Sherman
    June 26, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    “The 1% is not a monolith but a bunch of individuals and many of them don’t have anything in common with each other or even know each other. And even the worst of them couldn’t care less about keeping you poor, their aim is to improve their fortune.”

    Could a lie be more bald-faced?

    The beauty in bald-faced lies like these, is the larger truths they expose.

    In this case, Rich-Winger’s justifiable fear that public awareness of the “1% monolith” will, inevitably, lead to the next national-protests, heralded by the anti-war, WTO and Occupy movements.

    Everyone knows it took a monolithic cabal of the 1%, their bags of campaign cash and their army of lobbyists, to make the non-productive, predatory financial industry the largest sector of our economy where 35% credit card interest rates, and the 400% interest rates of the check cashing industry blanket our communities.

    They are indeed dependent upon further impoverishing desperate families, in divesting from U.S. human resources, services and infrastructure.

    After years of tricking and trapping home buyers into overpriced (highly profitable) McMansions….tens of millions around the globe lost everything.

    A monolithic bunch of interlocking directorates of 1% corporations work together in maintaining identical agendas….zero regulations of OTC Derivatives, offshore tax havens, and continued access to the bargain-rates of resources and labor from communist and fascist dictatorships that care nothing of environmental or labor regulations.

    It has GOT to be painful for Reich-Wingers foolishly struggling to defend our unsustainable imperial economy to know, deep down, that they will NEVER be invited into 1% circles where the rich club together, travel together, and marry each other….on the rare occasions they attend the parties of our local 1%, they are quietly ridiculed as dimwitted lapdogs…of which history is replete.

  66. Anonymous
    June 26, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    Poor High-Liar still thinks reported campaign contributions are the only contributions being legally unleashed by the Citizen’s United ruling.

    The record also shows far more anonymous organizations contributing to republicans….Bohn’s campaign in 2004 was ahead of its time. His 2012 campaign was way over the top.

    Where’s the $$$ coming from???

    How much is it???

    Where are these phony front group fliers reported???

  67. tra
    June 26, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    HiFi’s numbers don’t include the figures for other 2012 Republican primary candidates, like Bachmann, Perry, Gingrich, Santorum, and Paul, all of whom spent millions pushing the right wing’s agenda.

    High’s numbers also don’t include funds raised for “independent expenditures” by Super PACs, and by 501(c)4s, etc.

    Just as a small sample of the kind of Super PAC money the wealthy are pouring into the election this year, consider how much just three rich guys, Charles Koch, David Koch, and Sheldon Adelson, are planning to spend to defeat Obama and install Romney in the White House: $200 million.

    “Oil tycoons Charles and David Koch, who have promised to spend no less than $100 million to defeat President Barack Obama and place Romney in the White House.”


    Billionaire casino magnate Sheldon Adelson just donated $10 million to Mitt Romney’s Super PAC, and told Forbes he is willing to spend $100 million or more to ensure President Obama is not re-elected.

    Adelson is by far the biggest political donor in American politics. Before this latest contribution, he had given more than $26 million to Super PACs in 2012


  68. Fact Checker
    June 26, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    Figures lie and liars figure. Here are the real facts. The Republicans have out raised the Democrats. The drug and oil companies as well as Harry Hardin (who) “gave $2,150 to 2nd District candidate Fennell, and $200 to her opponent Clendenen…” (see “You Scratch My Back” North Coast Journal June 7, 2012) because Corporate America always bets on both horses, Always!

    Mitt Romney (R) $121,023,126
    Ron Paul (R) $40,517,401
    Newt Gingrich (R) $23,596,261
    Rick Santorum (R) $22,240,441
    Rick Perry (R) $19,704,786
    Herman Cain (R) $16,672,939
    Michele Bachmann (R) $9,244,228
    Jon Huntsman (R) $7,835,277
    Tim Pawlenty (R) $5,151,118
    Thad McCotter (R) $547,389
    Fred Karger (R) $538,184

    Republican Total $267,071,150

    Barack Obama (D) $255,162,109
    Randall Terry (D) $163,367

    Democratic Total $255,325,476


  69. anoni-voter
    June 26, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    Here’s a simple question…….doesn’t anyone else here think it was pretty disingenuous of Our Miss Brooks to be sitting on her conspiracy theories as she was running for office? She certainly seems pretty agenda driven on this, it would have been considerate of her to let the voters know what she really believed in. That may have dropped her down under the 20% zone.

  70. June 26, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    “United Nations comspiracy in plan update. Kay Becker andKaren
    Brooks spend a page and a half to make their points…Is this the opening salvo

  71. tra
    June 26, 2012 at 1:50 pm


    The answer to your simple question is: Yes.

    And ironically, Brooks is essentially criticizing Lovelace and Clendenen for being explicit about their own views by signing onto the ICLEI document.

  72. High Finance
    June 26, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    Factless jumps with his usual nonsense.

    Even his totals showing the current year’s fundraising in the presidential race has the Republicans leading the Democrats by only $267 million (for 11 Republican candidates attacking each other) to $255 million for really only one Democrat, Obama in a UNCONTESTED primary.

    Obama’s numbers will raise sharply for the general election.

    And the old canard of Rex winning only because he raised more money is believed only by the kool-aide drinkers here. Rex didn’t win because he raised more money, he won because he was far more popular.
    He raised that much money because people wanted to help him.

    Seidner didn’t lose because she couldn’t raise money, she couldn’t raise money because everybody knew she was going to lose. She was going to lose not because she was a bad person or unpopular but she lost because Rex had the overwhelming support of the people.

  73. Fact Checker
    June 26, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Hi Figures and his figures lie.

  74. Fact Checker
    June 26, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    High Finance said: June 26, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    “…only one Democrat, Obama in a UNCONTESTED primary.”

    Wrong again Highly Mistaken. ROTFLMAO!


  75. tra
    June 26, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Well, I think it is safe to say that there was not much of a contest on the Democratic side!

  76. retired guy
    June 26, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    HiFi-Puhleez! Such bullshit. The fact of the matter is simple. The rich want to improve their lot regardless of its’ effect on the rest of “us”. You know they generally really don’t give a shit about the environment, or in your fantasy world, they do? They don’t want healthcare for most of us, whereas in most other countries it is provided. Taxation is a dirty word to the righties. Our taxes are currently lower than under Reagan, the GOP hero. It’s called greed and there is no limit as far as the righties are concerned.

    Wake up! I don’t hate the righties, I hate what they are trying to do to this great country. Are you a believer in the Ryan budget plan? If that isn’t an example of screwing the middle class and the poor, what is? Evidently, Romney is fine with it.

    C’mon HiFi, what’s being said here isn’t spin. It’s the plain truth.

  77. Fact Checker
    June 26, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    tra 3:01 Yes not much of a contest yet not “uncontested” as Highly Mistaken asserted. High Ball plays it loose with the facts and I keep him in check.

  78. High Finance
    June 26, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Retired Guy never lets facts get in the way of his bull.

    Factless just makes up his “facts”.

  79. Anonymous
    June 26, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    er, Joe, is that you?

  80. 713
    June 26, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    Obama raised around 2x what McCain did. You guys crack me up.

  81. Thorstein Veblen
    June 26, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    This in a nutshell is one of the major problems we face as a society. We can’t agree on what the numbers actually are. Doesn’t matter what number it is.

  82. Anonymous
    June 26, 2012 at 8:34 pm
  83. 713
    June 26, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    I would say that some of you are just full of shit.

  84. Anonymous
    June 27, 2012 at 9:00 am

    ““The 1% is not a monolith but a bunch of individuals and many of them don’t have anything in common with each other or even know each other. And even the worst of them couldn’t care less about keeping you poor, their aim is to improve their fortune.”

    What planet are you from?

  85. Jack Sherman
    June 27, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    It’s no use Anonymous 9:AM.

    So far, 2 posts are unsuccessful in getting one of Highly Mistaken’s sophist-responses to this ludicrous assertion.

    Push the issue, and you will expose that HF is a troll.

    Defending the indefensible is a mighty burden!!

    So is trying to convince Rex Bohn that he, “had the overwhelming support of the people.”, when about 75% of the eligible voters don’t vote!! Depending on who you ask, most agree the electoral system is completely corrupted by money from a monolithic 1%.

    If Bohn was so “popular” why did he need 6 phony front-group fliers? Why couldn’t he report the occupations of 60 big contributors…that everyone knows?

    Indeed, Bohn will require each of the 240 days to his anointment being told his campaign was NOT corrupt and that THE PEOPLE overwhelmingly support him!


  86. Anonymous
    June 27, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    Well. like it or not, Bohn got the overwhelming majority of votes from those who did bother to vote. So obviously many of his supporters did turn out to vote. It seems a bit weird to blame him for the fact that not enough of his opponents’ voters bothered to show up at the polls, and that therefore turnout was low.

  87. Anonymous
    June 27, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    ““Hey” he told one customer — “I saw your ex-wife the other night. Not bad — once you get past the used part!” (HAW HAW). That’s your new county supervisor.”

    That’s a funny joke, but 40 acres of pavement on the bay is a harsh reality. Nobody’s blaming voters for anything, 1:20pm. If you want to believe yourself to be speaking for others, let me go on record as saying I am not blaming voters for anything. I am blaming the candidates, including bohn, for blatant bullshit.

  88. High Finance
    June 27, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    Your problem Sherman is that you are a bitter partisan who lost.

    You say Rex does not have overwhelming support dispite the fact he got almost 65% of the vote because 75% of the people did not vote.

    So why are you making the assumption that Rex does not have 65% support among those who didn’t vote ? When you make that assertion you are saying that liberal people are more inclined to be lazy or too stupid to vote.

    Get over it loser, you lost and big.

  89. Smart 5th Grader
    June 27, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    That’s all you got High Finance? More name calling? Awwwww, you’re a Hater.

  90. What Now
    June 27, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Highly Flatulent has recovered from his 5 day schnapps fest in celebration of Bohner convincing 20% of the electorate that he’s not as big a village idiot as Highly Flatulent.

    Why not put on your your liederhosen, spiked helmet, and jack boots and launch into another choruse of the host Wessel song, Flatuent?

  91. High Finance
    June 27, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    What Now, you have won the prize for the most moronic post of the month. Congratulations !

    Now go ahead and have another three drinks tonight & celebrate.

  92. What Now
    June 28, 2012 at 12:26 am

    Guess again, Flatulence.
    I don’t drink, I leave that to you and the fellow inebriates in your gamily tree past, present and moved to the great beyond to hold that fort down.
    And for someone who’s so generous with “presents”, why not give yourself the present of some long over due psychotherapy treatments and another stay in resdiential rehab?Your family is well known there.

  93. June 28, 2012 at 6:23 am

    Oh come on, is that kind of talk really necessary?

  94. RefFan
    June 28, 2012 at 10:50 am

    saying you’re a hater is not name calling Dumb 5th grader?

  95. Smart 5th Grader
    June 28, 2012 at 11:01 am

    I have some news for you RefFan, some people are Haters. That’s not a name, it’s a description. I’ve read some hate on this blog, at times from High Finance and from you RefFan. You posted some bile regarding the Zimmerman/Martin case. This is why we have war, people hate other people so much, they are willing to send their 18 and 19 year old young people off to a foreign land to kill all the people they hate. Then they call their deeds “American Exceptionalism” and they string up the “Mission Accomplished” banner.

  96. Jack Sherman
    June 28, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    It’s fascinating that people who are obviously educated enough to read and write lack the intellect to understand the implications of a nation where about 75% refuse to participate in their fundamental civic responsibility to vote.

    How many times has the U.S. used this as an excuse to call enemy-states “illegitimate”?

    EVERYBODY understands that the system is corrupted by $$ and that the biggest spenders win. Look at the average losers the right wing keeps winning here, especially in Eureka! McKeller, Hunter-Meeks, Madsen, almost Bohn…it’s ALL about money and corruption.

    Hence, about 75% of eligible voters don’t even participate.

    The few exceptions of winners on the left, would also have to bury their heads deep in the sand if they wish to avoid the humbling effect of the truth.

  97. High Finance
    June 28, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    Is the system corrupted by dollars Jack ? Of course it is but how on earth can you claim the left is any less guilty than the right ?

    “The few exceptions of winners on the left” ???? The Democrats have controlled the Calif Assembly and Senate for 60 some years and now even have the Governorship back. Both of the Calif US Senators have been Democrat for years as well as an overwhelming majority of the Congressmen for Calif. The Dems control the Senate & the White House and until just recently the House of Representatives.

  98. Smart 5th Grader
    June 28, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    The system is corrupted by greed. The “system” defined as “the system society seen as an environment exploiting, restricting, and repressing individuals”‘ and “greed” defined as:
    1. excessive consumption of or desire for food; gluttony
    2. excessive desire, as for wealth or power “

  99. Smart 5th Grader
    June 28, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    RE: “He’s done our City good”
    Define “good”. Subverting democracy with his wealth? Bankrupting 82 year old community banks in New Orleans? Declaring bankruptcy and dead-beating on property taxes while partying with his lackeys at Avalon?

  100. Smart 5th Grader
    June 28, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    That all you got? Smarmy replies? Is this High Fi?

  101. What Now
    June 28, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    WHY are individual states and the federal governemnt broke?
    Because of the modern aritocracy:
    The new aristocracy
    28 June 2012
    As governments throughout the world close schools, lay off workers and slash support to the poor, old and sick, the financial oligarchy that rules the world increases its wealth and power.

    The incomes of the top-earning bank CEOs grew 12 percent last year, according to an analysis of the 15 largest global banks conducted by pay research group Equilar. These executives received an average of $12.8 million apiece, even though the stock values, earnings, and profits of most of the banks shrank.

    Jamie Dimon, the chairman and chief executive officer of JPMorgan Chase, once again topped the list, taking in $23.1 million, an 11 percent increase over 2010. Under Dimon’s watch, JPMorgan recently disclosed billions of dollars in speculative losses.

    Governments across the globe have bailed out these banks to the tune of trillions of dollars. They have massively subsidized these giant, privately-owned financial institutions, and they stand ready to rescue them again if and when necessary.

    The report on bankers’ pay was released only days after Hawaii’s governor announced that Oracle CEO Larry Ellison had bought Lanai, the sixth-largest Hawaiian island, for between $500 and $600 million. The island’s 3,000 residents will be as dependent on Ellison’s good will as were the vassals of the Middle Ages to their lord.

    Ellison, the third-richest individual in the United States, is notorious both for his extravagance and his petty avarice. In 2008, he won a $3 million tax refund from the city of Woodside, California after a court ruled that his house, a reproduction of a Japanese emperor’s estate that cost $200 million to build, was worth only $100 million on the current market.

    The court declared that nobody besides Ellison could afford to live in the house, which gave it “limited market appeal,” and on that basis lowered the Oracle executive’s property taxes.

    The taxes that Ellison and his fellow California billionaires avoid paying have contributed to the state’s $15 billion budget deficit, which is now being tackled through cuts in vital social programs that keep millions from destitution.

    California Governor Jerry Brown, a Democrat, and the Democratic-controlled state legislature reached an agreement last week on a minimum of $8 billion in spending cuts. State welfare benefits are to be slashed in half and $1 billion is to be cut from the state’s Medicaid program, $402 million from state workers’ wages, and $240 million from child care.

    Ellison, whose net worth is $36.5 billion, could write a check to cover the amount of these cuts … four times over. Then there are the other 99 billionaires in the state.

    Another example of the use to which the super-rich are putting their vast fortunes has been captured in a soon-to-be-released documentary, The Queen of Versailles. The film recounts the efforts of the billionaire founder of Westgate Resorts (a time-share company) and his ex-model wife to build the largest house in the United States. At 90,000 square feet, the Orlando, Florida mansion includes ten kitchens and a bowling alley.

    The palatial Florida home is named Versailles in honor of the palace of Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette. That the royal couple had their heads cut off in the French revolution seems lost on the builders of the new Versailles.

    A charming detail revealed in the film about the lifestyle of the new Versailles: the family dogs were never housebroken because a small army of servants was always on hand to clean up after them.

    Aristocracy, from the Greek root, means “rule by the best.” However, the financial oligarchy, whose selfish interests determine the policies of the planet’s governments, encompasses the most ignorant and depraved sections of modern society. “Scum separates by floating upward,” said Marx, writing about the speculators and fraudsters of his time.

    “The finance aristocracy,” he added, “in its mode of acquisition as well as in its pleasures, is nothing but the rebirth of the lumpenproletariat on the heights of bourgeois society.”

    The decades preceding the Wall Street crash of 2008 saw a dramatic enrichment of this social element and the refashioning of politics to suit its needs. The financial oligarchy exercises monopolistic influence over political life, and the police state mechanisms built up since 2001 have been put in place largely to protect its wealth.

    The Obama administration itself is one expression of this process. In 2008, Barack Obama received more money from the finance industry than any other candidate in US history. After his election, he proceeded to pack his cabinet with former Wall Street executives. Once in office, Obama made trillions available to the banks and shielded those responsible for the 2008 crash from criminal investigation or prosecution.

    The concentration of this great wealth in the hands of a financial aristocracy comes at the direct expense of the rest of society. One in two people in the United States is either poor or near-poor, and median household wealth fell by 39 percent between 2007 and 2010.

    Millions struggle to make ends meet, and the increase in the ranks of those living in outright destitution is staggering. The proportion of the population living in “extreme poverty” has grown by 50 percent since 2000, from 4.5 percent to 6.7 percent. To be designated extremely poor an individual has to make less than $5,851 and a family of four less than $11,509.

    As Mark Twain once wrote, “There never was a revolution unless there were some oppressive and intolerable conditions against which to revolute.”

    Every year, trillions are squandered on the yachts, mansions and country clubs of the rich and the micro-economy they create around themselves. Vast resources are devoted to financial speculation, funneled into the Wall Street gambling casino. Putting this wealth to rational use would go a considerable way toward eradicating unemployment, poverty and preventable disease.

    Ending the anarchy and exploitation at the heart of the capitalist system, which find a particularly noxious expression in the concentration of obscene levels of wealth at the very top, would enable mankind to mobilize and develop the productive forces, including science and technology, to vastly raise the material and cultural level of human society and eliminate inequality.

    And yet the universal cry in official politics is that “there is no money” to fund social programs or pay decent wages, and that workers, including the poorest and most vulnerable, must “tighten their belts.”

    Such is the character of all historically bankrupt ruling classes. The issue is not just their personal wealth, but, more fundamentally, their stranglehold over the productive forces of society. The giant corporations and financial institutions must be taken out of private hands and run democratically in order to rebuild the society the super-rich have ravaged.

    Outside of socialist revolution there is no way to curb the political and economic power of the new aristocracy that plunders society for its personal enrichment.

    Andre Damon

  102. Anonymous
    June 28, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    “politics, politics, politics…from school boards to city councils.”

    I forget who said that. Isn’t there a security national employee on the school board? Doesn’t his position involve being personable with parents about local politics?

  103. Jack Sherman
    June 29, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    Great post What Now. Thanks.

    The beauty of an electoral system corrupted by money is evident in California, governed by corporate democrats…the kind that receive the funding required to win…

    Who would have imagined that “Governor Moonbeam” would be making draconian cuts to child-services, the elderly, the sick and indigent, while industry pays less than other states for resource-extraction royalties? I used to laugh every time I payed my CA business taxes, they were a tiny fraction of the Fed taxes.

    I read that Governor Brown also refused to reinstate the Property Tax Postponement Program that was successful for generations in postponing the costly expense of state-institutions to house the disabled and elderly, by allowing them to remain in their homes longer. The program was eliminated by Governor Arnold.

    Until rural republicans started shedding their party affiliations…like Bass, Bohn, Brady and others locally, it was only the republicans that received the big bucks for campaigns. (Here’s where right-wingers whine about the few exceptions).

    This is the beauty of corruption. On the rare occasions a lefty can raise enough $$ to compete…the right-wing says. “see, they’re just as corrupted by money as we are”….and the right-wing will often double or quintuple their opponent’s funding locally.

  104. 713
    June 30, 2012 at 6:38 am

    The schools, cities, and local governments are going broke because of huge pension liabilities and mismanagement. Not lack of taxes.

  105. Mitch
    June 30, 2012 at 7:21 am


    Ah, the huge pension liabilities.

    For decades, the negotiated compensation packages for public workers have included nice pensions. Everyone knew it, and voluntary contracts were established where those pensions were a part of the compensation, to be paid to people at a later date.

    So it strikes me as awfully nervy of people (not you) to suggest that those pensions should be challenged in any way.

    Don’t promises matter? How would life be if I put money in a bank account and then it wasn’t there when I went to withdraw it? Never mind, that’s a bad example. The only reason the bank money is there is because they could steal it from the taxpayers.

  106. 713
    June 30, 2012 at 7:48 am

    Mitch, the system is unsustainable. You think it’s better to lay off a bunch of teachers so the retired ones can keep their 100% medical coverage and million dollar pensions?

  107. 713
    June 30, 2012 at 8:01 am
  108. Anonymous
    June 30, 2012 at 9:49 am

    Right wing on bonuses promised to financial wizards who tanked the global economy = A contract is a contract and must be honored.”

    Right wing on public employee pensions = tough shit – we can’t afford it.

    What is obvious is that Prop’s 13 and 26 need, at the least, revision to increase fairness in property taxes and enable the legislative majority to adequately fund our state infrastructure.

  109. Anonymous
    June 30, 2012 at 11:12 am

    Free market folks prepared to break a contract when it come to pension promises had used the sanctity of contracts to defend the multimillion dollar bonus paid to traders (bankers) who lost billions in the financial meltdown. “We have to respect the contract” they cried.

    Eric- this quote was quite sage of you:
    “But I have to admire the skill by which HumCPR of old scooped up people, some of whom had formerly been tree-huggers, by conflating the issues of the Code Enforcement abuses with the TPZ moratorium and GPU.”

    It’s pretty much the same as the Koch Brother’s getting poor folks to join the Tea Party and vote against their own interest.

  110. Anonymous
    June 30, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    “… and vote against their own interest.”

    This is why the party affiliation flip flopping within our local government, as well as intentionally misinformative advertising renders those politicos obsolete in my opinion. They should be yesterday’s news, not dividing everybody’s natural and financial resources among their business benefactors. They were neither honest nor forthright about themselves. “Everybody does it” might fly if this was a 4H fundraiser, but at stake is the very shape of our environment. They further insult the intelligence of their constituents by insisting their constituents should now and forever take it lightly, shut up and just forget about it.

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