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A Tale of Two Mass Shootings

Some are claiming that the vast difference in the nature of the coverage between the Colorado shootings a couple of weeks ago and yesterday’s shooting up of a Sikh temple right near where I was recently vacationing in South Milwaukee is racist and cultural.   However, to be honest, I also think there may be an element of fatigue – the Denver event having been so recent, that there may be a certain level of numbing effect.  Still, the question has to be asked, and some attempt must be made to answer.

Pat Robertson isn’t blaming the Devil as he did with the Haitian earthquake.  He’s not blaming gays or feminists.  He’s blaming atheists because it’s the same whether they’re shooting up a Sikh Temple or a Baptist Church.  Only, Baptist Churches don’t often get shot up, unless they’re promoting civil rights.  More recently it’s a Sikh Temple and a Unitarian Church, of which many of the members are atheists.  Go figure.

The Onion already has something up. Is it too soon?

  1. August 6, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    Make that Wisconsin.

  2. Eric Kirk
    August 6, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    Make what Wisconsin?

  3. firesidechet
    August 6, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    a liberal sees a gun on the table, and says “that’s evil” . The conservative sees the same gun and says “that’s a gun”

  4. High Finance
    August 6, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    These two shootings represent nothing about the current state of the United States.

    It is nothing more or nothing less than two bad people. It has happened throughout history in every country in the world.

  5. Eric Kirk
    August 6, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    Yeah. Nothing to see here. Move along.

    You know what’s kind of funny. I didn’t raise the gun control issue in my main post, and it hadn’t even been raised yet in the thread. And yet, someone found it necessary to attack his/her perception of the “liberal” view of a gun.

    It’s really not about you and your gun. It’s about six people killed because a racist who probably hates Muslims couldn’t distinguish between a Muslim and a Sikh.

    But on the issue of gun control, how many people think this guy got his gun illegally?

    It’s those Sikhs’ fault anyway, right? If those pacifists had been armed, this never would have happened. And who brings a child to a temple anyway?

    How many other ways can we blame these attacks on liberals?

  6. Anonymous
    August 7, 2012 at 8:26 am

    you are one dumb-ass Eric.

  7. Mitch
    August 7, 2012 at 8:37 am

    Well, that’s settled then. Thanks, 8:26, for your eloquent argumentation.

  8. August 7, 2012 at 8:40 am

    If my post (the first post on this thread) wasn’t posted, then there’s no point in posting my second (as a correction of my first post).

  9. August 7, 2012 at 10:44 am

    God bless Deepak Chopra for coming out against guns yesterday. As he said, a civilized society does not need civilians to have lethal weapons. The NRA has brainwashed the weak-minded to believe that a GUN is the first defense against crime. Forget security systems, forget watchdogs. forget neighborhood watches, only a GUN will keep you safe. Yeah, right. We are the most heavily armed people on earth, not the safest

  10. August 7, 2012 at 11:23 am

    We aren’t a civilized society – yet. “God bless . . ” – “Economies, Governments, Religions, Crumbling? They’re No Longer Relevant.” Bill Hicks, like Depauk Chopra, was also ahead of his time.
    ” . . .not the safest.” The revolution has turned into conscious evolution. Julie, you are as safe as you feel/know. Let us not throw out what our forefathers lived and died for – that would be just plain ignorance (a willful lack of education). You have no evidence for your claim.

  11. Eric Kirk
    August 7, 2012 at 11:27 am

    Contrary to popular belief there was actually extensive gun control in the days of our “forefathers.” Pennsylvania, for instance, required a loyalty oath prior to gun ownership.

  12. August 7, 2012 at 11:33 am

    If anyone is really interested in what motivates such sick people take a good look at where the racist bigotry starts, in the hearts of the self-righteous judgmental gods spewing forth this kind of bile:

    Anonymous :

    I feel sorry for Joe. He’s clearly bitter, disappointed in his life, and deeply cynical. Worse yet, he’s angry and resentful toward anyone who doesn’t share his misery. What a sad way to live out whatever remains of your life.

    Let’s not forget the equally culpable, dangerous and slimy diatribe from this person:

    Mitch :

    I’ve made the mistake of asking Joe what the solution is, but was too stupid and unwilling to understand his answer. I think it has something to do with joining a religious cult but, as I said, I’m too dim to understand. I’m sure my belief is wrong, probably hysterically so, and I congratulate you in advance if you can get a clear answer as to why.

    But, then this is only a small example of this sickness.

  13. anonymous
    August 7, 2012 at 11:36 am

    Many government employees carry guns now if they are deemed “law enforcement”. I remember when State Park rangers did not carry guns; they were there to assist visitors enjoy the park. Now they even carry tasers. It is very weird to attend a campfire program at a State Park where the ranger giving the talk is dressed like a police officer.

  14. August 7, 2012 at 11:41 am

    A ‘loyalty’ oath to the Crown. This is NOT something a free womb/man would do.

  15. Jack Sherman
    August 7, 2012 at 11:54 am

    What a relief to read a crime story with relevance.

    For a moment, it appeared that Heraldo might be morphing into the yellow journalism of the Times Standard, Humboldt Sentinel, Lost Coast Outpost, and North Coast Journal blogs.

    If media routinely reported the well-known connections of poverty with ignorance, crime, violence, addiction, illness, and suicide, there would be far more public outrage over the state of our nation, our schools, our infrastructure, our Tariffs, ie, the unprecedented divestment in this country’s human resources while the financial industry continues looting the U.S. Treasury.

  16. August 7, 2012 at 11:54 am

    I too had a recent brush with a park ranger – while in the Grove. We had two campsites, but more ‘transportation carriages’ -so, he (My public servant) thought he was going to tell me about My plates on My truck that I own. Long story short, no contracts exchanged hands, and I paid no tax. How can I be in the Grove, wearing a ‘Save Richardson Grove’ t-shirt AND support the very @System@ that I’m wearing the t-shirt contesting?

    At least the PR’s aren’t in camoflauge as the police are in Seattle and L.A. – morphing into the military.

  17. August 7, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    @Jack Sherman,
    “. . .while the financial industry continues looting the U.S. Treasury.” There’s just fiction, and truth, hence I don’t recognize a term for ‘financial industry.’ – well really, neither do I recognize the U.S. Treasury – but that’s me.
    In truth what is happening, by “VOLUNTARY CONSENT” is this, the persons are being harvested – and they have no clue. Zero, nada, zip.

  18. August 7, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    In my above post, ‘harvested’ in this sense, I was relating to dealing with the legal babble.
    As in sheep being fleeced.

  19. August 7, 2012 at 12:52 pm


  20. Jack Sherman
    August 7, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    A person would have to KNOW how they are being fleeced for their “compliance” to be “voluntary”.

    Contemporary media tells us little….especially about local corruption….just more blood/guts and “Man Bites Dog” BS.

  21. alley
    August 7, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    There are people murdered every day in cities throughout the US… more than were murdered in Colorado, more than were murdered in the Temple. We, as a nation, need to pay attention to the daily shootings and consider the Colorado and Temple murders as the exclamation point to the first sentence in this post.

    In addition, it is important that we all know that there is no guarantee of safety… in your school, in your church, at the movies, walking down the street. No guarantee.

  22. August 7, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    @Jack Sherman,
    Really? So do you voluntarily comply to sign a 1040, 1-year contract?-not really a contract, as it has only one signature – yours. When asked by a ‘color-of-law’ costumed agent of the corporation, for your name – do you comply? “Am I compelled to answer your questions under the law?” Positively, absolutely, not. Persons are all too ready to continue bowing down to imaginary control. It ain’t workin, let’s keep doing it?

    Why, why, aren’t we discussing this ‘shooting’ as the third one??? Anaheim, same state, five murdered. These Manchurian children beta tests come in threes.

  23. Eric Kirk
    August 7, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    Why is shooting in quotes FQ?

    Re Pennsylvania – it was not to the crown. It was to the United States and the state of Pennsylvania. Moreover, Pennsylvania had the power to confiscate guns from individuals who refused to join the military.

  24. Smart 5th Grader
    August 7, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    High Treason said August 6, 2012 at 10:24 pm
    “These two shootings represent nothing about the current state of the United States.”

    This represents America, afraid of enemies real and imagined, and afraid of each other. And it is not just Mass Shootings, there’s the one at a time which makes Chicago more dangerous than Kabul, Afghanistan.

    “Americans have a better chance of being killed in Chicago than U.S. troops do in Afghanistan, figures from the nation’s third-largest city show.”

  25. What Now
    August 7, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    From columnist Berry Gray:
    “The government and media have no desire to probe Page’s fascist links because they raise broader questions about the social and political decay of America. This involves the official promotion of militarism and the cultivation, as part of the so-called “war on terror,” of anti-Muslim and xenophobic sentiment, especially among backward social layers.

    Since 9/11, there have been over 700 reported attacks on the 350,000-strong Sikh population living in the US. Sikhs, whose men generally allow their hair and beards to grow long and wear turbans, are commonly mistaken as Muslims, accounting in part for the growth of attacks on them by right-wing elements.

    Threats against Sikhs rose to the point that last April, Representative Joseph Crowley of New York, co-chairman of the Congressional Caucus on Indians and Indian-Americans, sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder in which he called on the FBI to collect data on hate crimes against Sikh-Americans. The letter noted that in the last year alone, two Sikh men in Sacramento were slain, a Sikh temple in Michigan was vandalized, and a Sikh man was beaten in New York.

    Page’s years in the Army’s psychological operations unit, moreover, throw the spotlight on the military’s recruitment and cultivation of a psychopathic element ready to carry out mass murder against any population targeted by US imperialism for occupation”

  26. August 7, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    I put ‘shootings’ in quotes, because these shootings are more to the order of massacres.
    Oath of loyalty was to the Crown. Who do you think owns U.S. Inc? We may have won the revolution, but we lost it on paper. The queen owns you. You may think that’s funny, but it is in fact, the truth. Unless you have your SOLB – Statement of Live Birth (NOT birth certificate), you are on the slave roll. OR, you have recorded who you are, and what you are not (collateral, unit, resource, individual, person, driver, passenger etc), then a slave you shall remain. No one is more enslaved than the man who believes he is free.
    When I say ‘you’ in the above, I mean your body, not your spirit. We have to evidence both, the living and the dead.
    State union BAR members swear their loyalty to? BRITISH Accreditation Registry . . born here and working for a foreign jurisdiction = traitor.
    The only way government (govern/control, mente/mind) can rule over the people is by compelling any one of us to assume that the corporate created NAME (and any one of us) are one and the same.

  27. Eric Kirk
    August 7, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    Okaaay, well – that’s a perspective.

  28. Walt
    August 7, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    How many guns do YOU have, FQ? and Joe?

  29. August 7, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    Well, that perspective happens to be part of the illusion.

  30. tra
    August 7, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    “The queen owns you.”

    I am intrigued by your ideas and would be most interested in subscribing to your newsletter.

  31. Thorstein Veblen
    August 7, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    HuH? Dang, even I can’t conjure up any sense out of that.

    Still, not sure I disagree, either.

  32. suzy blah blah
    August 7, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    The revolution has turned into conscious evolution.

    -that sees no separation and destroys alienation by the realization that we are connected through the heart. To each other and to the whole of nature.

  33. August 7, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    It basically is all about cultural & religious intolerance & stupidity. They’re spoonfed misunderstandings & certain beliefs from birth and when they feel threatened by something they don’t understand some people react brashly. Thanks for your attention Heraldo but it is too bad that I moved to Salem, Oregon ;-)

  34. August 8, 2012 at 7:33 am

    Newsletter . . .I wish. I do happen to have a year’s worth of “Hello Humboldt” which I printed (13 at a time) and handed out from Arcata to Garberville, and the Grove. Rather, a past twelve month escapade of mine in trying to wake the people up. I’m past that phase pretty much . . the 3% who are awake is all that’s needed to pull the rest ‘screaming and hollering’ through this transition. Even if the other 97% woke up tomorrow, it would be too late.
    So hold-on Humboldt, the beginning is near.

  35. August 8, 2012 at 7:53 am

    If we want control of our lives, we’ll have to take control of our language.
    Example: from Ruhstrat v People, (Illinois) “A shipowner (you, the living, breathing, spirit)
    who sends his vessel (your body) into a foreign port (all ‘courts’ worldwide are vessels in dry-dock) gives Notice (via Notices/Affidavits/Testimony etc.) by his flag (California folks) to all who enter into contracts with the master (you) that he intends the law of the flag to regulate contracts (invisible adhesion commercial contracts, correct commercial contracts, or void/voidable (not correct) contracts), and that they (the Corporation Administrators -agents, alleged judges, court clerk, bailiff, etc.) must submit to its (your correct document) operation, or not contract with him” (you).

  36. August 8, 2012 at 8:03 am

    suzy blah blah,

    Yes! Yes!

  37. Anonymous
    August 8, 2012 at 8:08 am

    Eric, you rightfully pointed out that most people do not know the difference between a Muslim or Sikh or Hindu. Christopher, good comment. As for fatigue, are you saying that certain lives are not as important because we just had another recent mass murder?

    The way the Sikhs responded to this atrocity shows more class than many of the comments in this blog that veered way off topic.

    This is not about guns or an opportunity to promote agendas. We have become a culture where many are numb, and numb to life.

  38. August 8, 2012 at 8:37 am

    Anonymous – there’s one in every crowd.
    “Veered way off topic” – NOTHING EXISTS IN A DISCONNECTED MANNER. Any effort aimed at unity – and whatever it takes to bring that about – IS NOT OFF TOPIC.
    It freakin IS THE TOPIC!

    Where do you suggest we gather to “promote agendas???????”

  39. Eric Kirk
    August 8, 2012 at 10:01 am

    Eric, you rightfully pointed out that most people do not know the difference between a Muslim or Sikh or Hindu.

    And a certain Presidential candidate doesn’t even know how to pronounce Sikh, despite it being in the news all week.

  40. Jack Sherman
    August 8, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Whether in 1930’s Germany, or 2012, USA,…. economic collapse reveals the predatory class-culture inherent in contemporary, post-industrial civilizations. Irrational outbursts of blame, denial and violence are inevitable as generations of ignorant, consumption-based, individualistic fantasies unravel.

    The more alienated communities, neighbors, families, and friends become…the more they arm themselves and search for scapegoats.

    It is utterly absurd to allow citizens to own assault weapons, our only REAL bonds are purely emotional, and most Americans barely interact socially except on Sundays to worship a deity arrogantly believed to choose human beings to speak for it.

    What’s missing is knowledge, public debate and the education that results from a ubiquitous repetition of truths.

  41. Eric Kirk
    August 8, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    There are also people out there who are missing certain aspects of their brains and/or minds, and simply do not have the ability to experience compassion or control impulses. I am certain the biological aspect of the problem has been with us always, and will be with us no matter how great a utopia we set up. The difference five hundred years ago was the lack of capacity to do so much harm in just a few seconds. However, we really should consider why it happens so much more often in the United States.

    One item of note in the most recent incident. Everytime something like this happens, you hear people say, “it’s always the quiet ones.” Well, in this case, it was an extreme right wing headbanger – hardly quiet. As a relatively quiet person myself, I want to point out that being quiet does not make you dangerous, and being a loud person does not make you safe. A minor point I know.

  42. August 8, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    Jack Sherman,
    Excellent post. “What’s missing is knowledge,” hmmm, we’re not short on intelligence, labor or resources. Today’s problem isn’t debt, economy, and scarcity. It’s fraud, deceit and illusion. You hit the nail right on it’s head – “public debate and education that results from a ubiquitous repetition of truths.”

  43. August 8, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    Here goes ubiquitous repetition of facts . . .there were many shooters, called Manchurian children, who were activated for a Beta test, to take the pulse of Americans. Zombies shuffling on thru life with no attachment to reality. The truth is extreme, to make it moderate, is to lie.
    “. . .happens so much more often in the United States.” First, the United (past tense/dead) States is NOT a landmass, it’s a corporation, U.S. INC. Initially, the states were states of the union – now-time tense – since we’re always living in the now (time). “Happens so much more,” – most American children have witnessed 14,000 simulated murders by the time they’re twelve years old, and U.S. INC. media spoon-feeds fear 24/7. I think this may also have an impact.
    I could be wrong, I once was – lol.

  44. What Now
    August 8, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    Yet ANOTHER example reflective of the “current state of the United States”:

  45. suzy blah blah
    August 8, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    -bless up the 3%!

  46. Just Watchin
    August 8, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    Forest Queen……get a job. You have way too much free time on your hands.

  47. August 8, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    Just Watchin – typical of an observer.
    Your definition of the word ‘job’ would be?
    If you don’t have something positive to say, shut the hell up. When I feel I want some low-life to tell me how to live my life, I’ll rattle your cage.

  48. Plain Jane
    August 9, 2012 at 8:52 am

    Remember all the hullabaloo over the Dept. of Homeland Security report in 2009 (which was originally requested in 2007 by the Capitol Police Department) about right wing extremist resurgence in the US and the threat that returning veterans would be recruited by hate groups and use their training in terrorist attacks? Who were those people screaming that the report was insulting to all Americans and veterans in particular? Let’s see…John Boehner, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Lou Dobbs, Michele Malkin and others, as well as our very own wilted Rose. Is anyone keeping count of the terrorist attacks from right wing hate groups since then?

  49. Just Watchin
    August 9, 2012 at 11:20 am

    Forest Queen :Just Watchin – typical of an observer.Your definition of the word ‘job’ would be?If you don’t have something positive to say, shut the hell up. When I feel I want some low-life to tell me how to live my life, I’ll rattle your cage.

    “Something positive”? Your rants are nothing but negative. And if someone has to explain the definition of a “job” to you, that pretty much tells the story.
    Light another doobie, go out to the mailbox, and wait for your next welfare check.

  50. What Now
    August 9, 2012 at 11:33 am

    PJ, Here’s a link to the Southern Poverty Law Center that references a 2005 U.S. Government report that there are an estimated 195,000 such incidents in the U.S. yearly.If you go to their home page, there is a map giving a break down of sorts.

  51. Felix
    August 9, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    Aside from mass shooting ‘fatigue’ – the shooting at the theater involved twice as many fatalities and many times the number of wounded AND took place in a theater where anyone could imagine having been……not a temple where a specific group was (tragically and it’s generally assumed, misidentified ie – not Muslim) targeted.
    Not that it would have been better had it been Muslims – though I suppose the reaction would be even more deficient….
    I’d like to think these are the main reasons for the difference in coverage.

  52. Plain Jane
    August 9, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    Do you think the right wing leaders who politicized the DHSS analysis of the rising threat from right wing extremist groups in 2009, essentially forcing Napolitano to cut back on gathering information and analysis of right wing hate groups, bear any responsibility for the success of these terror attacks? I don’t count Aurora as a terrorist attack since, so far as we know, he had no agenda.

  53. suzy blah blah
    August 9, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    -i don’t doubt that it had an impact Jane. But also, what do you think may be responsible for the most part in mass shootings like Aurora, Columbine, etc.?

  54. Plain Jane
    August 9, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    Too many guns in a mentally unhealthy society, Suzy.

  55. suzy blah blah
    August 9, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    -again i think you got it right.

  56. August 9, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    No I’m not saying that at all. Taking any life is a sign of a hardcore dirt bag.

  57. Anonymous
    August 10, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    And how about leaving threatening messages on a candidates voice mail…or trying to infiltrate your political opponent’s campaigns Chris?

    Dirt bag.

  58. Jack Sherman
    August 10, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    Interesting point Eric. Mental illness is easily generated by the divestments in U.S. citizens taking place today, the PTSD from the loss of income, family…homelessness, uninsured illnesses, war…etc. Suicidal tendencies can also make injury to others more palatable…sharing pain is readily observed in alcoholic’s dysfunctional blame/deny behavior. The loss of dignity accompanying tens of millions of American’s loss of home has dangerous and deadly consequences.

    Kurt Vonnegut attributed his writing career to a 1940’s psychology textbook (The Mask of Sanity, U. of Georgia), illustrating how individuals with repressed consciences are often selected for leadership positions by virtue of their decisive demeanor when, in fact, they cannot care what happens next.

  59. Maggie Fleetfoot
    August 10, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    The U.S. may have the most heavily armed populace on the planet, but it also has the most heavily armed government, and security apparatus. The Gibson guitar factory was raided by EPA agents, armed to the teeth. EPA agents! Were they planning on shooting craftsmen for using “illegal” wood? How many people are negligently shot by cops? How many SWAT raids at the wrong address? How many Mexicans were killed by the thousands of assault weapons supplied to drug cartels by the DOJ, in Operation Fast and Furious?

    As for this right wing, left wing business, I say, bullshit. Lee Harvey Oswald was a left wing Marxist. Adolph Hitler was a socialist, vegetarian, nature-worshipper. Stalin? Lenin? Guevara (who got his kicks from shooting the politically incorrect in the head)? How about the SDS, or the Weather Underground? How about the OWS guy, recently arrested for threatening the life of the President? Or the OWS bunch planning on destroying some bridges? The far-right has no monopoly on political violence.

    Veterans? How many millions of veteran’s are there? How many have PTSD? How many go out and shoot up the local house of worship? (btw, the guy who shot the Sikhs had been declared unfit to serve, and thrown out of the Army).

    How many people are shot every day in the ghetto? They get shot at weddings, parties, churches, clubs, bowling alleys, parking lots, and sitting on the stoop in front of their home. Mass shootings, often involving children killed in cross-fire, yet rarely covered in the media, and when it is, no one inquires into the political leaning of the shooter. I’ve never read an article about the Crips, or the Bloods, or the Mexican Mafia, that addressed their political views.

    I don’t own a firearm, but I’m glad that we have the Second Amendment. Most gun violence occurs in cities with very strict gun laws. Knee-jerk reactions to horrible events are neither helpful, nor productive. There’s street crazy, political crazy, and just plain crazy.

  60. Plain Jane
    August 11, 2012 at 7:22 am

    Do you think the Sikh temple shooter was unfit for the army before he was trained for combat or did he become unfit while serving, Maggie? He was, in fact, exactly the type of disgruntled veteran at risk for joining violence-prone hate groups which was a segment in the much maligned and politically spun DHSS report on the rise of right wing extremism. How dare anyone even think a US veteran coming home to no job might join a white supremacist or other hate group or kill people he suspects of being to blame for his pathetic life! Everyone knows all veterans are perfect and have never been indoctrinated by their communities to be bigots. They wouldn’t rape fellow soldiers, torture POW’s or murder innocent civilians hiding in their homes… until they do. The military, like society in general, has psychopaths. They may even have a higher percentage than average due to the nature of the job. Refusing to monitor hate groups because they are right wing (so above suspicion) is foolhardy. The right wing has little to fear from these neoNazi skinheads so they protect them by smearing their critics, amp them up with hate speech and point them in the direction of brown people to do their dirty work.

  61. Anonymous
    August 12, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    Canadians are free to own firearms but have a tiny fraction of U.S. gun-violence statistics. They lack the mass psychology of fascism and the ruthless, predatory economy that permeates U.S. society today.

  62. August 13, 2012 at 11:10 am

    “Canadians are free to. . .” – and you aren’t? Standing means = Who do you beLIEve is above you? Whose TAXED permission do you seek for something that is a ‘right?’ Honestly, the Founders must be rolling over many, many, many times in their graves.

    The Canadian dictators are FAR MORE obvious in dispensing their ruthless and predatory harvesting. The puppet dictators here don’t even use their given names – ‘speak with forked tongue.’ Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Bombomb, a/k/a Obummer, a/k/a President of the Board of Trustees for U.S. INC., a/k/a Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces. FICTION.
    HUMBOLDT INC. has a Board of Trustees, labeled Supervisors. 99.9% of today’s Corpse-
    orations are in place for one thing and one thing only – profit, no matter what the cost. That’s what corporations do (today). . .the Board reports to the shareholders quarterly, and dispenses what’s harvested from the persons. Nothing new about that.

  63. Anonymous
    August 13, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    I agree that Canada is also an imperial, predatory economy, but how is it “worse”? Why do they have so much less gun-violence while their citizenry is also armed-to-the-teeth?

    Maybe the nihilist rant above explains why so many Americans stay home, don’t vote, and don’t fight against the machine, then wonder later how the machine became so evil…

  64. August 13, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    Again, the un-called for judging/labeling why? A ‘nihilist rant.’ I have nothing to say to you.

  65. Anonymous
    August 16, 2012 at 12:22 am

    How does anyone have anything to “say” on a blog?

    Maybe Heraldo needs to enforce minimum age requirements to post here.

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