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Study shows 56% of Americans harbor anti-black sentiments

Only 51% of ‘Mericans explicitly express anti-black attitudes, but studies designed to observe implicit attitudes reveal 56% of ‘Mericans harbor anti-black attitudes, up from 49% four years ago.  57% of non-Hispanic White ‘Mericans harbor anti-hispanic attitudes.

The implicit test too showed that 64% of Republicans had racial prejudice compared to 55% of Democrats, while independents came in at 49%.

Outrageous!  How dare anyone suggest that 2 in 3 Republicans are bigots.  Just outrageous!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/27/racial-prejudice-worsened-obama

[Added 10:27 AM] What America needs to hear is not more of Obama or Romney — it’s what this white Republican Colonel has to say:

  1. Ponder z
    October 27, 2012 at 8:35 am

    You all probably think I will vote for Romney because he is White, and NOT vote for obama because he is black. You would be wrong!
    I don’t agree with the obama political view. That is why. And I think most anti obama voters think the same as I do. We are disgusted with this socialist, liberal, Marxist, leninist, communist, agenda. This is America, and we are based on Christian Capitalism. We don’t want these social programs and experiments. We don’t like to have our wealth adjusted. Obama is a commy, and we will not vote for him.
    “Forward” is right out of the communist propaganda slogan list. One has to say “for real????” on that one point alone.
    And how about voting for obama for the first time, its like having sex with him! “for real????” . The obama campaign actually ran these adds. With a real live tattooed slut, no less. At least they got the sex part right. The next day you will find you have been fucked and lied to, and the money in your wallet is missing.

  2. Carla Baku
    October 27, 2012 at 8:46 am

    I don’t know how accurate or reliable the study was, although I do think it would be the ultimate in see-no-evil thinking to suggest Americans don’t grapple mightily with their prejudices. One of the most instructive things to come out of the 2008 election process was the level of rhetorical discourse embraced by the Sarah Palin/Tea Party crowd. Suddenly the seamier element of the the Grand Old Party had permission to give voice to their most heartfelt beliefs…and wow, what an ugly stew it is. Appalling as it is to see in the news every day, better to let the sunshine into the darkest corners. Exposure can ultimately be healing.

  3. Mitch
    October 27, 2012 at 8:47 am

    Ponder,

    Perhaps you’ll feel better about the Obama campaign ad when you realize it’s rerunning an old Ronald Reagan joke: http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/10/lena-dunham-first-time-ronald-reagan.php?ref=fpb

    Carla,

    I don’t know how accurate the study is either, but it used a somewhat standard social science technique, flashing a picture of a white non-Hispanic or a black or a Hispanic person for a tiny moment before showing a picture of an Asian person. The respondents were then asked for their opinions of the Asian person. The measurement of implicit prejudice is based on differences in what people think of the Asian person when it’s been preceded by a sub-conscious flash of blackness, hispanicness, or “white”ness.

  4. anony
    October 27, 2012 at 8:56 am

    the survey is bullshit. What were the questions and how were the answers graded?

  5. Mitch
    October 27, 2012 at 9:01 am

    Anony,

    The survey is from the AP. I’m sure you’ll be able to find it if you try real hard, but you’re going to have to try reading.

  6. Ponder z
    October 27, 2012 at 9:11 am

    Weak Mitch, very weak. Reagan said it with class and very little or no innuendo. The idiots of gen X,Y,???, who made and need this kind of current stimulation, are mentally to young to vote or have sex.

  7. Untold story
    October 27, 2012 at 9:12 am

    San Quentin State prison is on a total Quarantine lockdown. Some good journalsit should find out why

  8. Mitch
    October 27, 2012 at 9:18 am

    Yes, Ponder, Reagan stayed classy while he fucked us all over. He never stopped smiling. That’s what happens when you hire the best man for the job.

    But I’d think you’d be upset with him for what he did with deficits: http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

  9. Plain Jane
    October 27, 2012 at 9:26 am

    Reagan didn’t have the brains to know he was telling lies or fucking us over. He memorized his scripts and portrayed a decent, caring president. When he claimed dozens of times, “I can’t recall” in the Iran/Contra hearings, he wasn’t lying. He didn’t know what was being done in his name. Do you think it was his idea to bribe Iran to hold the hostages until after he was elected in exchange for unfreezing their assets and selling them arms? Or using the money to arm the contras? He probably really didn’t know anything about it. He signed what he was told to sign and said what he was told to say, just like Bush and just like they expect of Romney.

  10. Anonymous
    October 27, 2012 at 9:30 am

    Ya Ponder Z – vote for Mitt because he’s going to put more money into the Military. Oh wait, that’s a government program. But it’s a jobs program for upper middle class engineers and middle class workers to make things we hope to never use. Of course we could put the same amount of money into infrastructure and not only fund jobs (in the same way military jobs are funded – in that commie, pinko government way) but the jobs would results in something we actually need – roads, bridges, technology infrastructure. You’d never admit it, but both the military and infrastructure jobs lead to lots of private industry jobs and private industry spin-offs. That happens with military, space, and infrastructure investment. The computer you use is a spin-off of one of those pinko-govt jobs programs (the space race)

    The irony is that Obama is a middle of the road candidate who by and large tows the line for the capitalist system. His “horrible” medical program is a private insurance program. Yes, the government requires you to have insurance (just like car insurance), but the health care is run through private industry. You’re required to buy private insurance. This is far from being “pinko” – it’s incredibly main stream and, frankly, a disappointment to the left who wanted a government-run, single-payer system.

    The evidence of the bigotry is that we have a black president who is within an eye-lash of the policies of Ronald Regan. In fact, taxes are lower during his administration than during Regan’s term, he is very hawkish in foreign policy, he believes coal can be clean, and on and on. Yet, he’s called every name in the book (pinko, socialist, commie, etc) except the ones you really want to call him (uppity, etc).

  11. Anonymous
    October 27, 2012 at 9:44 am

    We are disgusted with this socialist, liberal, Marxist, leninist, communist, agenda.

    You claim to not be racist, then made up alternate reasons to hate Obama that have no basis in reality, residing deeply in the realm of a deeply deluded mindset. You fear him so much that you accept the fear mongering of absolute racists. You are among the 56%. Sorry. Have an honest conversation with yourself about why you believe fantasy.

  12. Carla Baku
    October 27, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Oh Ponder. You are just a whirling mass of low-effort thinking, honey.

  13. Mitch
    October 27, 2012 at 9:53 am

    #11,

    It’s good advice, but the Dunning Kruger effect makes it likely that Ponder z’s self-evident understanding of his lack of racism is unshakable.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

    Based on twenty years in Humboldt (which has essentially no black people) and 35+ years in other places (which had black people), I’ve concluded that Humboldt is both far more racist than most other places I’ve lived and also far more convinced of its lack of racism. And one of those comparatively less racist places, heaven help Humboldt, was Boston.

  14. True American
    October 27, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Col. Chistopher Wilkerson spoke the truth on the Ed show yesterday. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoVm2VgLgmo

  15. Big Al
    October 27, 2012 at 10:04 am

    Ponder sez: “This is America, and we are based on Christian Capitalism.”
    Big Al sez : GFYS! America was based on religious freedom, you are the real problem! Don’t be ramming your religious beliefs on all the rest of us… friggin’ religious extremists, please go quickly to your god. I know for a fact Jesus was a capitalist, maybe he will buy you a latte when you get to your heaven.

  16. USA American
    October 27, 2012 at 10:05 am

    For a few Blacks and very few Mexicans I can dig but the rest of the criminal gang losers need to be wiped out permanently. It’s a tough thing to say but it is out of control. Just look at any city ie: Oakland, LA, Detroit, NY…….

  17. Mitch
    October 27, 2012 at 10:11 am

    True American,

    I don’t know why the youtube you mention didn’t appear — it is a big enough “wow!” to me that I’ll try to make it appear here. Not every day that you hear a bald white military Republican saying the Republican party has become a bastion of racism.

  18. Thorstein Veblen
    October 27, 2012 at 10:17 am

    Hence the subtle and not so subtle appeal by the gop to both the open and the closet racists. Remind them often so they stay pissed off and motivated to vote when otherwise they might not bother. If romney can pick up a few% that way, and suppress dem voters a few %, and rig the voting machines a few %, he wins. Not good for the country, but I don’t think romney cares much about that.

  19. HUUFC
    October 27, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    Well, I’m voting for Romney/Ryan because obummer has a proven track record of disaster, easy choice.

  20. Mitch
    October 27, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    I’m sure you’ll be happy to list the disasters for us, HUUFC. I keep hearing about them, but I can never get the list.

  21. suzy blah blah
    October 27, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    The next day you will find you have been fucked and lied to, and the money in your wallet is missing.

    -LOL! exactly.

  22. EKA runner
    October 27, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    Harvard did a similar study. If you’l like to participate go here: https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/

  23. Anonymous
    October 27, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    I thought it was satire, what Ponder wrote.

  24. Mitch
    October 27, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    That’s certainly understandable, #23.

  25. October 27, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    What I’m reading in the news today is that Israel is going to attack (bomb) Iran before the election specifically to throw the election to Romney. That would be a peachy situation.

  26. Laughing
    October 27, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    Anonymous :

    We are disgusted with this socialist, liberal, Marxist, leninist, communist, agenda.

    You claim to not be racist, then made up alternate reasons to hate Obama that have no basis in reality, residing deeply in the realm of a deeply deluded mindset. You fear him so much that you accept the fear mongering of absolute racists. You are among the 56%. Sorry. Have an honest conversation with yourself about why you believe fantasy.

    Yeah, because everybody knows that conservatives are racists and progressives are noble and pure. What a maroon.

  27. Anonymous
    October 27, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    “What a maroon.”

    You mean like a brownish-crimson color? I guess it takes one to know one, eh?

  28. October 27, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Almost every “conservative” that goes on about Obama is in reality a flaming bigot, who just can’t stand the idea of a non-white person in a position of power. This whole “Tea-Party” movement is founded on racism and hatred and is completely, totally supported by two of the biggest racists there are. And the Koch Bros. have some mighty stiff competition when it comes to being white-supremacist. The fact that our local A. Bunkers cite the president’s “socialism,” when in fact he is a capitalist’s dream; is just further evidence that they don’t want to trumpet their real feelings, which are based on fear. They’re scared little children throwing tantrums when it’s pointed out that their views have no basis in fact.

  29. October 27, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    moviedad, Believers fear facts, logic and reality.

  30. October 27, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    @ USA American

    “For a few Blacks and very few Mexicans I can dig but the rest of the criminal gang losers need to be wiped out permanently. It’s a tough thing to say but it is out of control. Just look at any city ie: Oakland, LA, Detroit, NY…….”

    Too bad the thought police are on the wrong side – you are a stupid Mofo whose ilk the world would be a better place without. Not that I’m into genocide – but that was a really short jump, chump.

  31. Just Watchin
    October 27, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    The rarely mentioned dirty little secret of the 2008 election was that many white voters voted for Obama to prove to themselves that they weren’t racists and feel better about themselves.

  32. TT May
    October 27, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    Carla Baku :
    Oh Ponder. You are just a whirling mass of low-effort thinking, honey.

    That was very good.

  33. Mitch
    October 27, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    Just Watchin, at #31, is his or her usual astute self. First, white voters wanted to prove they weren’t anti-Semites, which is why they voted in Presidents Cohen and Feldbaum. Then, white men wanted to prove they weren’t sexist, which explains Hilary Clinton’s election. And whites wanted to show how much they respect Asian-Americans, which is the only imaginable reason for the Chang presidency.

    If white male Christian voters need to prove their tolerance any more, there’s never going to be another white President. It’s depressing.

  34. Anonymous
    October 27, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    This whole thing is bullshit,bullshit,bullshit! Get a F’ing life!

  35. October 27, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    I personally like blacks, brownies and yellows. I do have an anti-bank sentiment though…

  36. Reads a Lot
    October 27, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    It is the Ecru’s I really dislike.

  37. Matt
    October 27, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    Ponder z :
    You all probably think I will vote for Romney because he is White, and NOT vote for obama because he is black. You would be wrong!

    I have to admit that in my normal hectic daily life, I have never stopped to think about who “Ponder Z” might vote for in the presidential election.

  38. Anonymous
    October 27, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    moviedad :
    Almost every “conservative” that goes on about Obama is in reality a flaming bigot, who just can’t stand the idea of a non-white person in a position of power. This whole “Tea-Party” movement is founded on racism and hatred and is completely, totally supported by two of the biggest racists there are. And the Koch Bros. have some mighty stiff competition when it comes to being white-supremacist. The fact that our local A. Bunkers cite the president’s “socialism,” when in fact he is a capitalist’s dream; is just further evidence that they don’t want to trumpet their real feelings, which are based on fear. They’re scared little children throwing tantrums when it’s pointed out that their views have no basis in fact.

    What a waste of a human brain you are.

  39. HUUFC
    October 27, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    Well, the term racist has been so overused as to become useless. I think I will add bigot to that list of words that are now worthless.

    I’m voting for Romney/Ryan because they will do a better job of running the United States than obummer/biteme.

  40. Percy
    October 27, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    Sununu never ceases to amaze me. He appeals to a slightly different asshole base of the republicans than Bachman……

  41. October 27, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    One must laugh, sad as it is.

  42. Just Watchin
    October 28, 2012 at 6:35 am

    I’m wondering if the democrats will have the black panthers out at the polling places again this election??

  43. unanonymous
    October 28, 2012 at 6:46 am

    studies also show that 47% of statistics are made up

  44. Ponder z
    October 28, 2012 at 9:23 am

    Almost every “conservative” that goes on about Obama is in reality a flaming bigot, who just can’t stand the idea of a non-white person in a position of power. This whole “Tea-Party” movement is founded on racism and hatred

    MD, you are an idiot! Hope you feel good about voting for BO. Ease your White Mans Burden.

  45. Anonymous
    October 28, 2012 at 10:21 am

    Interesting that Ponder Z didn’t address his assertion regarding Obama’s pinko, commie tendencies – that were resoundingly refuted in several posts above. I respect that some people may not vote for Obama based on some policy differences (HUUFC), but to say he is a socialist etc, is just plain ignorant and a denial of his policies and those of other middle of the road presidents over the last 50 years. By Ponder Z’s measure, Richard Nixon was a flaming commi. And your man Romney is apparently (at least this week) supporting every government program under the sun – especially those related to the military-industrial complex (i.e., more government handouts for stuff we don’t use).

  46. October 28, 2012 at 10:52 am

  47. Mitch
    October 28, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    The “conservatives” here are unreachable, Asa. The only people they can even hear are the ones, like Col. Wilkerson, who “look and act normal.” It’s California, so none of it matters to the Presidential election anyway.

    I’d try shaming if I thought it would work, but the most ignorant among us are positively proud of their unshakable ignorance (which they call “faith,” in an abuse of the word).

    As things stand, I think the only sensible response is to enjoy everyone’s contributions for the hysterical circus they create, and to remember that over long periods, society does change.

  48. suzy blah blah
    October 28, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    the term racist has been so overused as to become useless. I think I will add bigot to that list of words that are now worthless.

    -don’t forget homophobic.

  49. October 28, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    “…it’s not because he’s black! It’s not because he’s black! It’s not because he’s black!”
    Yes it is. It’s obvious.
    And by the way, “White man’s burden?” That phrase in itself is a demonstration of racist thinking.
    I didn’t vote for Obama because he’s black. I voted for him because he has an Islamic name, and I wanted to show the rest of the world that in America, we’re not all a bunch of racist fools represented by Dick Cheney and George Bush. I wish he was even a little bit of those things the bigots accuse him of. If he was more of a Socialist, I’d be a lot happier. Every good thing that every happened for working people was a socialist program. Social Security, WPA, GI Bill, Pell Grants, Union representation, CCC.
    Oh well, one cannot argue with a fool, unless one becomes a fool.

  50. Jack Sherman
    October 28, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    Where knowledge and information is owned and rarely shared, even when paid for, a Dunning-Kruger Effect is guaranteed.

    Racism is more complex. It’s sources are historically linked to the guilt inherent in imperialist cultures. For time immemorial people’s competence, hard work, ingenuity, and success has rested upon the repression and grinding poverty of youths in less-militarized nation’s, and the violent, deadly extraction of their resources.

    For over 100 years that Europeans depended upon Native American’s knowledge, they were best of friends. It was much later that native’s darker skin, “lower intelligence”, “backward cultures”, “inferiority”, “primitive world views”, and “grotesque living conditions”, were necessary caricatures to “justify” the theft, massacres and subsequent second-class citizenship of natives that followed.

    To this day, the unequal treatment of minorities and women, generate guilt-ridden prejudice, bigotry and hatred.

  51. Ponder z
    October 28, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    Because he has an Islamic name??? BaaaaHaaaaahaaaa!!!!! Did you get a new bumper sticker too? lol

  52. suzy blah blah
    October 28, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    “White man’s burden?” That phrase in itself is a demonstration of racist thinking.

    -in Ponder’s context it demonstrates your racist thinking –duh, and your guilt about it, eg easing it by voting for Obama.

  53. Mitch
    October 28, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    Well, if everyone else is going to spout, I might as well bloviate too. I’d be really surprised if racism is due to imperialist guilt. On the other hand, racism seems to me to have served as a decent justification for imperialism, as it has for raiding parties against the “other” since before history was written down.

    Racism seems to me to be nothing more than standard human tribal psychology, which will latch onto any sign that one group is kinfolk and another group is not. Sadly, we all seem to be hardwired by evolution to follow physical cues to determine who it’s most acceptable to shit upon. Racism will fade only when most of us are cross-racial mixes, not before.

    Unfortunately, the word “racism” is too small to usefully cover all the racialist phenomena we see. There’s implicit racism, where people assume those they are most familiar with are the best people, and there’s toxic racism, where people with a need to bash others use race as their signal. They seem to me to be fundamentally different, but I haven’t found any useful vocabulary to distinguish them. I’ve tried “deep racism” to describe the former, but people think “deep” as a modifier means “extreme,” so that’s failed.

    Sure, there are all sorts of guilts and justifications, and what have you in the relations between people that look different from one another. But I think they all result from racism, I don’t think any of them are the cause.

  54. Jack Sherman
    October 28, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    Racism will fade only when most of us are cross-racial mixes, not before.”

    Our nation’s 250 years of blending provide poor evidence of that assertion.

    Dividing every race, mixed-race, sex, age and religion….is CLASS.

    As long as individual’s providence is predicated upon the grinding poverty of others, (an imperial, predatory economy), we will be deluged by erroneous reasoning that blames the victim to ease the guilt from grotesque irresponsibility to each other, (civilization).

    Look no further than the propaganda promoted and defended in every U.S. institution from family and media, to education and Hollywood movies….”This Is A World Of Plenty For The Deserving”.

    This is exactly how most people retain their feel-good fantasy about the wealth they “earned” and how they spend it, by shoving aside the monstrous human, environmental, economic and social toll upon which it rests. Essentially, “our freedoms” that George W. Bush broadly referred to as, “the reason they hate us”.

    The “less deserving” are thus manufactured for those eager to blame, disparage, and hate. It’s an effective solace for the truth….that the wealthy, aka our leaders, are not as intelligent, resourceful, hard working, successful, or DESERVING as they desperately need to believe.

  55. suzy blah blah
    October 28, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    Racism will fade only when most of us are cross-racial mixes, not before.

    -that’s a childish and irresponsible notion. The cause of racism isn’t that there are different races. If its root isn’t eradicated it will pop up in a different form. Nothing has improved, but we are that much closer to homogenized monoculture.

  56. Ponder z
    October 28, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    On the other hand, as a descendant of White Europe, I cherish my roots. How evil of me. I, nor any of my ancestors have ever enslaved another human. So I have no White Mans burden. Unlike the guilt ridden MD. To be called a racist is like calling me a honky. It has no meaning to me because I am neither. Like calling MD a democrat. You are a filthy democrat MD! To say I don’t vote for BO because he is black is an incorrect assumption. You must be nuts.

  57. Plain Jane
    October 28, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    People who need to feel superior to others to feel good about themselves will always find someone to feel superior to, whether that is someone of “inferior” sex, skin color, economic class, nationality or religion.

  58. suzy blah blah
    October 28, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    People who need to feel superior to others to feel good about themselves will always find someone to feel superior to, whether that is someone of “inferior” sex, skin color, economic class, nationality or religion.

    -exactly. And the need to feel superior is to allay the underlying (unconscious) feeling of inferiority. Where did they get that?

  59. suzy blah blah
    October 28, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    On the other hand, as a descendant of White Europe, I cherish my roots. How evil of me. I, nor any of my ancestors have ever enslaved another human

    -westerners have preferred light over darkness, ego over shadow, spirit over nature, Apollo over Dionysus, reason over energy, order over chaos, civilization over savagery, sanity over madness, God over Satan, man over women, Christianity over paganism, Over-world over Underworld, perfection and wholeness over the necessary pathologies of soul.

    The bias is against the material world, against nature, against the mother, against the feminine, (and against the heart). Not facing the reality of one’s feelings, one’s body, but instead escaping into the head trip of childish idealistic illusions about changing the world for the better. And dominating what is in front of them to do it. A pathetic meaningless existence built partly of the thrill of “feeling superior” … which violates its other half.

    Not personal Ponder, i’m suggesting we all share this, us whiteys. I don’t think it is a reason for us as individuals to feel guilty. Yet it is our shared inheritance and a feature of the culture we live in. It’s inside of us, so to speak.

  60. Jack Sherman
    October 28, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    “I, nor any of my ancestors have ever enslaved another human.”

    “First World” citizens benefit from the slave-labor of kids mining the cobalt for our computers and cell phones resulting in the short life spans of millions of Congolese eating the fish from the irradiated Congo River. And that’s just one small example. How many examples do you need? Did you ever wonder why the U.S. occasionally bombs poor nations, like we did the Congo?

    You thought you built your successful U.S. business on your own? HA HA HA.

    However, the “White Man’s Burden” has become much more integrated following the social advances since the 70’s bringing millions of women, blacks and gays into top positions of power. Too bad it has merely emboldened our predatory society.

    What a surprise.

    (Thanks for making my point in fewer words Suzy and PJ!).

  61. Plain Jane
    October 28, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    If you believe ranking is the natural order of humanity, you will feel inferior to those above you in the ranking system you ascribe to. Male over female ranking is probably the most basic and virtually universal.

  62. October 28, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    I am not a democrat; I’m a socialist.
    American society as it is, would not exist without the enslavement of others. Even if the Earth should be destroyed, so be it; as long as the world’s aristocracy continues their unfair advantage.

  63. suzy blah blah
    October 28, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    -thanks for bringing in the “r” word PJ. That’s a clear way of explaining the dynamic. I think if someone starts talking about any “natural order of humanity”, you know your getting a crock of shit.

  64. Anonymous
    October 29, 2012 at 8:28 am

    jack, u b a real ignorate fellow

  65. Mitch
    October 29, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Democracy, or republicanism — or any of the values we still pretend exemplify America — failed decades ago. Romney’s apparent ability to “convince” half the American electorate that he’d be a better President than Obama is proof.

    Obama is basically a middle-of-the-road 1970s fiscal Republican, with ideals slightly on the progressive side. Romney is yet another example of a Reagan/Bush Republican — someone who is an evident fraud to any thinking person, not someone that anyone might seriously choose because they lay out a good case for their program.

    Seriously, anyone willing to devote an hour to objectively comparing them side by side can only reach one conclusion regarding who would be better. But we’re long past the tipping point, and the Rove/Norquist strategy of selling the Presidency to the public just like it’s a brand of soap has long since proven its functionality. Lies don’t matter — what matters is Q meters, or whatever the SCOTUS-enabled new-guardians use to choose their televised music, pictures, and words. The “free” ad-supported press has proven to be the saddest joke of all.

    Assuming Obama wins reelection (and I hope he does), you still have nearly half the voting public preferring an obvious and proven liar with no perceptible principles, who bullied kids back in prep school to the point of assault, who refused to release his tax returns to the American public, referred to 47% of Americans as lazy whiners, shipped jobs overseas to make money, keeps his accounts offshore, probably broke the law by voting in a state he did not reside in, managed to offend foreign allies like the UK during piece-of-cake-gimme photo-ops, and who, before he turned against the idea of providing universal health insurance, put the prototype for President Obama’s plan into effect in the state he governed. (Oh, yeah. A state which, having seen him close up, will vote against him by a landslide percentage.)

    It almost doesn’t even matter who Romney’s opponent is. People who would prefer him to Clint Eastwood’s chair are not reliable citizens of a democracy — they are easily manipulated consumers of whoever can purchase the most, best advertising. There’s almost no point in continuing with elections, they just mislead people. We ought to just auction off the Presidency every four years — at least that would get the government some money from the wealthiest, money that is now wasted on paying for TV time.

    In a situation like this, where half the people are so brain dead that they will vote for a person like this, the country has a lot of troubles to pull itself out of, and they go far beyond who happens to be President. Democracy failed long ago.

  66. Plain Jane
    October 29, 2012 at 9:44 am

    I would love for President Obama to announce that he is suspending his campaign and donating what is left in his treasury to charity (or the federal deficit, national debt, whatever) and challenge Romney and every other candidate for office in the country to join him. The hundreds of millions being spent to convince idiots who haven’t chosen their favorite candidate at the point is sickening.

  67. Jack Sherman
    October 29, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    “We ought to just auction off the Presidency every four years — half the people are so brain dead that they will vote for a person like (Romney)…”

    Retired Justice John Paul Stevens said that the best way to show the American people what the “Citizen’s United” ruling means is to have a presidential debate that allows ALL candidates to participate with each question and response being auctioned to the highest bidder.

    U.S. citizens are hardly “brain dead”! You would know this if you spent time at the Farmer’s Market signing up first-time voters inspired by Eureka’s new Fair Wage Initiative.

    As in every other category of modern society, the U.S. is probably dead-last in having an informed citizenry. Every shocking indictment of Romney’s actions and comments immediately eclipse from the media if appearing at all. The video of Romney’s bigoted comments calling 47% of non taxpaying Americans “moochers” never appeared on local TV, nor anywhere else I’ve traveled since it occurred.

    Where else but in the U.S., (where a public university degree qualifies you as a taxi-driver), can psychologists find ample resources to win a Nobel Prize for discovering a new psychosis we used to dismiss as “arrogance”, (The Dunning-Kruger Effect)?

  68. Stockpiling
    October 29, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    I’m with the GOP on this, we don’ t have to use Obama for his Negro lips spewing jibberish and and Trillions upon Trillions of wasted money; and it goes to show incompetence that Negros cannot function under pressure.

  69. October 29, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    Finally one of the Leopards shows his true spots.

  70. Just Watchin
    October 29, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    News flash….Romney pulls ahead in Ohio poll. You can almost smell the libtard meltdown !! This is REALLY going to be fun to watch.

  71. Plain Jane
    October 29, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    Rasmussen LOL!

  72. Plain Jane
    October 29, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    The latest Rasmussen Reports survey of Ohio voters, taken Oct. 28, puts Romney’s support at 50 percent, vs. Obama at 48 percent. It’s the first time Romney has led Ohio in this poll.

    A recent Enquirer/Ohio Newspaper Organization poll showed the race tied 49-49, but that poll was taken Oct. 18-23.

    The Rasmussen poll shows that 32 percent of Ohio voters have cast their ballots, with 62 percent going with Obama and 36 percent for Romney. Rasmussen noted that Romney was ahead among those who haven’t voted yet, although it didn’t specify by how much.

    In the PPP poll, 36 percent said they’d already voted, and they reported voting for Obama 63 percent to 36 percent. Romney had a 53 percent to 45 percent lead among those who hadn’t yet voted.

    Since those who already voted are more likely to vote than those who haven’t (smile) it doesn’t look good for Romney. I’ll trust actual votes over Republican polls any day.

  73. just whining
    October 29, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    i hate libtard americans and I cant wait till Romney screws the 47% socilist americans and he will help the 1% welthy create more welth

  74. Anonymous
    October 29, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    Maybe Romney can help the low-information voters learn to spell. welth?

    I can understand why the 1% want to hold onto their “welth”, but I’m always amazed at the number of middle-income people who think if they vote republican they will follow in the “welthy” footsteps of these so called leaders. It’s classic divide and conquer. Get the masses to assume all of their problems are the result of some disempowered group (47%, etc) and they will vote and work for you without complaining that they are being screwed each and every day. If they complain, just point out the disempowered group as the source of all of their problems. The beauty of it is that the low-information group won’t do any meaningful level of research about their problems, they’ll just repeat what these so-called leaders tell them (ditto, ditto…)

  75. Plain Jane
    October 29, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    They aren’t “low-information” because abundant, accurate information isn’t available.

  76. Mitch
    October 29, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    This is what happened to Germany. It’s not “like” what happened in Germany. It’s what happened to Germany.

    A substantial portion of the smug, arrogant, lazy, self-centered majority runs into tough times. People need to find reasons that they’re not doing as well as their parents. The reasons must not involve changes in global politics (which they pay no attention to anyway), their values (which are, by definition, the best), their laziness (which, by definition, does not exist), their ignorance (which, by definition, does not exist). The reasons could involve bad leadership or economic elites, but those can only come (by definition) from people who don’t look like them.

    America is Germany.

  77. Jesse Sayin
    October 29, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    The absence of media attention upon his foreign policy cadre of NEO-CONS from the Bush II era pisses me off. Con you once, uh…con you twice?!

    A few percentage points lead is easily offset by electronic and voter registration fraud, watch for possible delay of results ala 2000… the East Coast may/will need time to recover from the hurricane and storms.

  78. Anonymous
    October 30, 2012 at 9:08 am

    Stockpiling is only Richard Salzman or one of his clones talking crap that only true believers(libs) believe . Obama is a failure because of his own lackings. America spoke loud and clear that it mattered not ,the ethnicity of our president. Only the poverty/race pimps like Salzman continue these old worn out and destructive lies. It’s their money and power song. Their come toJjesus call.

  79. Anonymous
    October 30, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    PPP is a Democratic Party poll. To take it seriously one would have to be a desperate partisen Democrat.

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