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  1. Just Watchin
    January 6, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    But she is WAY hotter than Geraldine Ferraro ever was!!!

  2. SNaFU
    January 6, 2013 at 5:15 pm

    If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years there’d be a shortage of sand. I’d rather have have ‘ol hot pants in control of DC’s sand box than the snake oil being spewed from from by *BHO, *JB, *HR & *NP. [*the perfect storm]

  3. Ponder Z
    January 6, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    #1 & #2 both make valid points.

  4. Ponder Z
    January 6, 2013 at 5:24 pm

    so the pic is supposed to say that republicans are going backwards? That’s just dumb, because we all know the liberal slow thinkers are the folks dragging us down into a pit. See national debt. Spending more that you bring in is foolish. Now you are taxing me more to pay for this idiocy. I do make less that 200k and Barry said I would not be taxed more. See he lied right there didn’t he. What a dick.

  5. Just Watchin
    January 6, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    It’s the curse of the low information voters. That’s democrats, just in case any one needs an explanation.

  6. LOL
    January 6, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    We’re talking about the party that put that woman forward as a candidate for office. Republicans have lost the right to be taken seriously.

  7. Anonymous
    January 6, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    Low information voters? What about low information politicians? What about those politicians who don’t know that increasing the debt limit doesn’t increase the debt, it just authorizes paying the bills for what congress already voted to spend. The bimbo in the convertible above is one of those low information politicians, but the GOP has a lot of them.

  8. January 6, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    Exactly. American politics can only go in two directions, regardless of how dynamic the road is. Why are we in a ditch?

  9. Anonymous
    January 6, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    How quick we all are to forget the father son team who got us here..There will NEVER be another GOP president without the party doing a complete re-build..

  10. Anonymous
    January 6, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    “What about those politicians who don’t know that increasing the debt limit doesn’t increase the debt, it just authorizes paying the bills for what congress already voted to spend.”

    Seriously? Do you actually believe that they won’t spend/borrow to the new limit exactly as they have every single other time? There are compelling arguments that we are and that are not over extended as a nation. There is absolutely no agrument whatsoever that the government will not borrow everything they can until we say stop. We can all have a rational (well maybe not all of us) conversation about how much debt is too much or when to say stop to borrowing but lets not pretend that politicians of all parties and persuasions are not the kind of creatures that they are.

  11. Anonymous
    January 6, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    Seriously, #10 is a low information voter.

  12. Anonymous
    January 6, 2013 at 10:54 pm
  13. Just Watchin
    January 7, 2013 at 6:34 am

    Anonymous :This is a simple explanation
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/07/opinion/krugman-the-big-fail.html?hp

    The minute that you mention the name Paul Krugman, you lose everyone with the exception of the Low Information Voters. When people (fellow Nobel winners) disagree with Krugman and he can’t back up his claims, he simply calls them idiots:http://www.forbes.com/sites/investor/2012/09/19/which-nobel-economists-are-idiots/

  14. Just Watchin
    January 7, 2013 at 7:26 am

    LOL :We’re talking about the party that put that woman forward as a candidate for office. Republicans have lost the right to be taken seriously.

    And Geraldine Ferraro was a real powerhouse pick. She and Mondale only lost 49 out of 50 states

  15. HUUFC
    January 7, 2013 at 9:01 am

    Our elected representatives in Washington. Dianne Feinstein in the Senate since 1992, Barbara Boxer Senate since 1993, Mike Thompson in the House since 1999 to this year. All Democrats. They are responsible for the mess we are in. 16.4 trillion dollars in debt. Thanks for nothing you three.

  16. Anonymous
    January 7, 2013 at 9:26 am

    So far I’m enjoying the implosion of the GOP just as much as I thought I would.

  17. Anonymous
    January 7, 2013 at 10:10 am

    Perhaps the debt would be less if tax rates on the rich hadn’t been at their lowest since the Great Depression for so long. Or if the Pentagon’s bloated budget was trimmed. Or if we weren’t fighting two wars, one of which we had no business getting into other than to enrich companies like Halliburton. Just saying.

  18. retired guy
    January 7, 2013 at 10:22 am

    # 17 pretty much says it all. Fanatic right wingers and their less fanatic followers in the “R” party are pretty much destroying that parties’ relevance. What a bunch of sore losers.

  19. Just Watchin
    January 7, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Anonymous :So far I’m enjoying the implosion of the GOP just as much as I thought I would.

    Enjoying it as much as your tax increase BarryO promised you wouldn’t get?? But wait…..that would be assuming that you have a job and not living off of the government. Never mind.

  20. Mitch
    January 7, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Just Watchin,

    Care to explain the “tax increase?” Do you mean the expiration of the reduced payroll tax that the President fought to get Republicans to approve, but for only two years?

  21. Just Watchin
    January 7, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Mitch :Just Watchin,
    Care to explain the “tax increase?” Do you mean the expiration of the reduced payroll tax that the President fought to get Republicans to approve, but for only two years?

    Funny how when the Bush tax cuts were about to expire, liberals crowed that everyone was going to get a tax INCREASE. Don’t tell me Mitch that you never heard it expressed that way. Do I need to dig out speeches by Pelosi and Reid ? You can’t have it both ways.

  22. Mitch
    January 7, 2013 at 10:55 am

    It was clear from the start that the payroll tax reduction was unsustainable stimulus money, and it was sold as a two year (I think) “holiday.”

    It was also clear from the start that the Bush tax cuts were unsustainable, but they were presented as if they were new tax policy that would last forever. That’s why it’s legitimate to call the end of the Bush tax cuts an increase.

    But the terminology wars are pretty boring, so carry on.

  23. Just Watchin
    January 7, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Oh Yea…..but Palin is still WAYYYY hotter than Geraldine Ferraro !!

  24. Anonymous
    January 7, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    Whether one is hot or not doesn’t mean they deserve to be elected Vice President.

  25. Just Watchin
    January 7, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Anonymous :Whether one is hot or not doesn’t mean they deserve to be elected Vice President.

    Another liberal with no sense of humor. Lighten up !!!

  26. Just Watchin
    January 7, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    Just when I think Paul Krugman has exhausted his supply of nutty crap, he comes up with this. He REALLY wants to mint a one trillion platinum coin, and deposit it in the Fed. I kid you not :http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/07/be-ready-to-mint-that-coin/

  27. Anonymous
    January 7, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    God you are stupid Just Watchin!

  28. HUUFC
    January 7, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    FYI, George Bush isn’t President. The tax rates in force now are obama’s. Palin ran as a vice presidential nominee four years ago. Obama is President, HE is responsible for the current mess.

  29. Just Watchin
    January 7, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    Anonymous :
    God you are stupid Just Watchin!

    Stupid?? Don’t leave out rich.

  30. Anonymous
    January 7, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    Anonymous :
    How quick we all are to forget the father son team who got us here..There will NEVER be another GOP president without the party doing a complete re-build..

    A child continues to blame others for everything. An adult mans up and admits their errors.

    Obama has been in control these last four years. The Dems have been in control of the US Senate for what, eight?

    Time to grow up little boy.

  31. Anonymous
    January 7, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    Just Watchin :

    Anonymous :
    God you are stupid Just Watchin!

    Stupid?? Don’t leave out rich.

    HUUFC — of course! Everything that’s wrong with our economy began in January 2009, after all.

    The sour grapes from the right are delicious, but understandable. Their last, best chance at remaining politically viable was to get Mittens into office, let him take credit for the inevitable economic recovery, then ride that momentum into 2014 and 2016. Now their brief flirtation with relevancy is over, and they get to sit in the back seat and bitch for the next 8-12 years. Meanwhile the country is growing less white around them year after year. It’s like a venereal disease — it may never go away completely, but at least can be expected not to flare up too seriously for awhile.

  32. Anonymous
    January 7, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    Mitch :
    Just Watchin,
    Care to explain the “tax increase?” Do you mean the expiration of the reduced payroll tax that the President fought to get Republicans to approve, but for only two years?

    You’re so gullible Mitch, tax increases are coming. You cannot maintain these welfare state by screwing only the rich. The Middle Class’s turn is coming. Obama is expanding the Welfare State so it will only get worse. Already the Democratic party is eyeing more tax increases for later this year.

  33. Just Watchin
    January 7, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    HUUFC…..liberals will never accept responsibility for anything. It’s why they attract the low information voters, and the genital wart Anon #32 is a perfect example.

  34. Just Watchin
    January 7, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Taxing the middle class is the only way to sustain the nanny state. And after lying to them about not getting any new taxes, and then hammering 77 % of them, the middle class will never get a tax increase again…..ever. Then, they will realize that they can’t tax the wealthy enough to sustain the entitlement society that they have built.

  35. Anonymous
    January 7, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    “Taxes are what we pay for a civilized society.” Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., Supreme Court Justice from 1902-1932.

    As a self-professed rich man, we can all be confident that JW doesn’t give a rat’s ass about any of us in the middle class. When he’s whining about taxes, he’s purely concerned with his own pocketbook.

    #31 — Funny stuff about owning up to things. If I had a million dollars for every time I’ve heard anyone on the right own up to the train wreck that they left behind after 2008, I’d be broke. Wall Street run amok, a botched war in Afghanistan and a botched and unnecessary war in Iraq. Yep, that was some real fancy decidin’ that Bush Jr. managed.

    Also, even a fifth grader is aware that legislation has to pass through both the House and Senate before the President can sign anything into law. What with the House’s tea problem and the Senate minority’s record-setting use of the filibuster, it’s no wonder little gets done in Washington. The GOP needs to figure out that “compromise” isn’t a dirty word, but alas, they’re too terrified of being walloped in the primaries by someone even further to the right.

  36. Just Watchin
    January 7, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    Poor Anonymous……I haven’t been whining about taxes. I’ve positioned my money so that I won’t pay any this year. I was wondering what the 77% that just got blindsided thought.

  37. HUUFC
    January 7, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    And the democrat party owned the House, the Senate, and the Presidency for two years. They fixed nothing and passed the abortion of obamacare. If gridlock in Congress is slowing down Obama’s obsession to destroy our way of life and “fundamentally change America” them I’m for gridlock.

  38. Anonymous
    January 7, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    So basically you’re a freeloader. How patriotic.

  39. Just Watchin
    January 7, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    Anonymous :
    So basically you’re a freeloader. How patriotic.

    LMAO…..when I was still working, I probably paid five times more in taxes than you made.

  40. Anonymous
    January 7, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    “Obama’s obsession to destroy our way of life”

    Oh, I figured it out, HUUFC must stand for Hyperventilating Undereducated Uniformed Foolish Creep.

  41. Anonymous
    January 7, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    “when I was still working, I probably paid five times more in taxes than you made.”

    Of course no one reading this has any way of confirming that claim. But by your own admission, you’re a wealthy freeloader right now. And at the same time you complain about the deficit and debt. What a putrid hypocrite.

  42. Just Watchin
    January 7, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    Anonymous :
    “Obama’s obsession to destroy our way of life”
    Oh, I figured it out, HUUFC must stand for Hyperventilating Undereducated Uniformed Foolish Creep.

    There he goes showing off that 6th grade education, and yet he can’t make up a name for himself besides anonymous. Pitiful.

  43. Anonymous
    January 7, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    Interesting. JW has the distinction of being a member of two 47% groups.

    One, the 47% of Americans who pay no federal income taxes. The group that Mittens so desperately needed to protect America from — or as O’Reilly said, “people who want stuff.”

    Two, the 47% who voted for Romney.

  44. Just Watchin
    January 7, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    Anonymous :
    “when I was still working, I probably paid five times more in taxes than you made.”
    Of course no one reading this has any way of confirming that claim. But by your own admission, you’re a wealthy freeloader right now. And at the same time you complain about the deficit and debt. What a putrid hypocrite.

    Please show me where I complained about the deficit and debt. Put down the pipe and take a few deep breaths.

  45. Anonymous
    January 7, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    Are you claiming that you haven’t ever complained about the debt and deficit? Really, never ever? Or just not in this thread?

    Hey, at least you’re willing to concede that you’re a freeloader. That’s something.

  46. Just Watchin
    January 7, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    Anonymous :
    Are you claiming that you haven’t ever complained about the debt and deficit? Really, never ever? Or just not in this thread?
    Hey, at least you’re willing to concede that you’re a freeloader. That’s something.

    Still can’t think up a name besides anonymous??

  47. Anonymous
    January 7, 2013 at 5:04 pm

    Just Watchin :

    Anonymous :
    So basically you’re a freeloader. How patriotic.

    LMAO…..when I was still working, I probably paid five times more in taxes than you made.

    And yet somehow I think that if you had had the opportunity to avoid paying those taxes, you would have in a heartbeat. The only nice thing about people with an archaic way of thinking is that time will inevitably pass them by.

  48. January 7, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    Thank goodness it arrived. Just want to let you know – today I received my Fiscal Cliff Survival Pack from the White House. It contained a parachute, an ‘Obama Hope & Change’ bumper sticker, a ‘Bush’s Fault’ poster, a ‘Blame Boehner’ poster, a ‘Tax the Rich’ poster, an application for unemployment, an application for food stamps, a prayer rug, a letter to assign debt to my grandchildren, and a machine to blow smoke up my ass. All directions were in Spanish.
    Keep an eye out. Yours should arrive soon.

  49. Just Watchin
    January 7, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    Queenie….everything you posted made absolute sense to me. BRAVO!!!

  50. Anonymous
    January 7, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    “an application for unemployment”.

    We are all going to need that before the Obama is done with us.

  51. Anonymous
    January 7, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    LOL :
    We’re talking about the party that put that woman forward as a candidate for office. Republicans have lost the right to be taken seriously.

    The Repubs only put her up as a candidate for VP. A position that according to some wag is only worth warm spit. The fools in your party put Obama up as a PRESIDENTIAL candidate and God help us he won!

    We can only guess at what damage she might have done to our country. But we are watching the ruin your President Obama is doing to it today.

  52. Anonymous
    January 7, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    Palin’s nomination was proof positive that the GOP gives not a single damn about the welfare of the country. She would have been one heartbeat away from the presidency, and McCain was an old man already in 2008. Can you possibly imagine the ruin that President Palin could have wrought? She’d have made Bush Jr. look like a Mensa.

    Pray tell specifically what damage Obama is doing today. And the less regurgitation of Faux News talking points, the better.

  53. Still shocked by stupid people
    January 7, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    What are you, retarded #53? What damage is Obama doing today? My God man, don’t you read the papers?

    Massive national debt. High unemployment. Iran about to get the bomb. Islamic extremists taking over the Middle East. Sandy devastation not cleaned up. Tax increases but still unbelievable deficit. NK about to get the ability to reach our West Coast with rockets. More US troops than ever being killed in Afghanistan.

    Stop watching Honey Boo Boo and read different sources of news. Either that or please stop voting.

  54. Mitch
    January 7, 2013 at 11:35 pm

    SS,

    I am convinced President Obama is the best President in at least the last thirty or forty years, so I guess I’m watching too much Honey Boo Boo. (Of course, that doesn’t mean he’s going to solve all our problems.)

    What news sources would you recommend?

  55. January 8, 2013 at 12:44 am

    This year Groundhog Day and the State of the Union address will be on the same day.
    This is a unique juxtaposition of events.
    One involves a meaningless ritual in which we look to an insignificant creature of little intelligence for prognostication.
    The other involves a groundhog.

  56. Just Watchin
    January 8, 2013 at 5:36 am

    Mitch :SS,
    I am convinced President Obama is the best President in at least the last thirty or forty years, so I guess I’m watching too much Honey Boo Boo. (Of course, that doesn’t mean he’s going to solve all our problems.)
    What news sources would you recommend?

    Mitch……does that mean you consider Jimmy Carter the second best President in the last fourty years?

  57. Just Watchin
    January 8, 2013 at 6:06 am

    Still shocked by stupid people :
    What are you, retarded #53? What damage is Obama doing today? My God man, don’t you read the papers?
    Massive national debt. High unemployment. Iran about to get the bomb. Islamic extremists taking over the Middle East. Sandy devastation not cleaned up. Tax increases but still unbelievable deficit. NK about to get the ability to reach our West Coast with rockets. More US troops than ever being killed in Afghanistan.
    Stop watching Honey Boo Boo and read different sources of news. Either that or please stop voting.

    Still……you can always tell the Low Information Voters. They think that as long they mention Bush’s name, they are absolved of any responsibly.

  58. Mitch
    January 8, 2013 at 7:01 am

    JW,

    As Molly Ivins famously said, Jimmy Carter is enough to give Christianity a good name. So he’d have made a great President of a Christian country, but was a terrible fit for the United States.

    The United States is an unusual and remarkable country, whose electorate felt that an actor who played military men in the movies was more macho, and therefore more Presidential, than a former nuclear submarine officer.

  59. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 7:38 am

    It’s worse than that Mitch. Private citizens (candidates for office or not) who make deals with enemy governments to hold American citizens hostage for political advantage and pay our enemies with illegal weapons sales would end their lives in prison if our country lived up to its stated ideals, i.e.. that we are a country of laws, not of men, and no one is above the law.

    We seem to be afraid to confront reality and delude ourselves into believing that it is for the best of the country to let low level personnel take the blame for administration crimes and then we are aghast that the corruption just gets worse. Putting politicians and bankers in jail for their crimes may or may not reduce political corruption, but justice should be served.

  60. Mitch
    January 8, 2013 at 7:49 am

    We seem to be afraid to confront reality and delude ourselves…

    You don’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to see that the system is set up to avoid having the population confront reality.

    I don’t like all of what the President does, but I think he’s pushing about as fast and far as he can in the current environment. People think the President is very powerful; he’s just a big player up against many, many other players, and he knows very well that there are certain things even a President had better not challenge.

    That’s why I’m mystified when people complain that the man hasn’t thrown all the bankers in jail, withdrawn from Afghanistan, closed Guantanamo, etc… I’m still overwhelmed, four years on, to have someone in the Presidency who is pushing in the right direction.

  61. HUUFC
    January 8, 2013 at 8:40 am

    And that direction is…… bankruptcy.

  62. January 8, 2013 at 9:21 am

    The American dream . . . you’d have to be asleep to believe it.

  63. January 8, 2013 at 9:22 am

    Nations [and empires] go bankrupt for one reason. They get involved in too many wars. I don’t believe that all war can be avoided. But voluntary wars like Iraq and Afghanistan and the rapidly expanding war in Central-Eastern Africa can be avoided. Let’s bring the troops home. Let’s cut $100 Billion from the defense budget this year and see how it looks next year. I agree that the government needs to run a balanced budget. I don’t agree that it has to be balanced every year. I think after 10 years or so of extreme budget deficits under both Republicans and Democrats it is time for some belt-tightening.

    Let’s start getting back to a balanced budget by simply cutting spending 5% this year, and then cutting another 5% next year, and on, until some years in the future we get to a balanced budget. We need to turn the Titanic around, we don’t need to run it into an iceberg. If we cut the budget 30% ($1,000,000,000,000) this year we would be balanced. Now subtract $1,000,000,000,000 from the current GDP and you will get a decline in one year of 7.5% in GDP. I think that would just about finish the big casino on Wall St.

    Here’s the problem.

    Both Democrats and Republicans (all politicians really) understand that even a 5% cut in Federal spending will put a big drag on the economy. Actual living standards may decline for a while until a new equilibrium is reached. Republicans don’t want to cut defense spending because they are hawks and also they are tied to the war industry capitalists. The Democrats don’t want to cut defense spending because many of the jobs in the war industry are union jobs, and also downsizing the military will throw hundreds of thousands more young workers into the pool of the underemployed.

    I think being excessively hawkish is wrong but I acknowledge it is a valid political view. Yes, the Dems are triangulating but I acknowledge that union members deserve representation in the political process.

    The only solution I can see is finding a way to convert the arms industries into peace industries, just like we need to convert prisons to colleges and universities. I am not saying that we have to disarm. I am saying that we need to downsize the war industry, and we need to make sure that these workers do not become displaced workers. We need to find work for them that is similar in compensation and of a level of dignity that is acceptable.

    We are well supplied in prisons. We are still waiting for more colleges and universities. The Prison Industry must be downsized and the perverted Privatized Prison Industry must be abolished. These prison guards must somehow be found secure dignified employment somewhere as part of the deal.. Perhaps they can find good employment at a college or a university after the conversion. Perhaps they could be provided health care at the college or university medical center. Perhaps they could be given a free college education? If we really want to lower the cost of a college education we need to increase the supply of a GOOD college education. We can do this efficiently at low cost to government by converting prisons to schools.

    This is a tricky situation and it is not amenable to simplistic stupid “liberal” “conservative” analysis. We have to get beyond that.

    We are all in this lifeboat together. Let’s get a grip folks.

    have a peaceful day, Bill

  64. Plain Jane
    January 8, 2013 at 9:34 am

    “How a Dove Becomes a Hawk
    August 15, 1984
    If you want to understand why Ted Kennedy, Alan Cranston, Tom Downey and other defense critics are mobilizing for war in a time of peace, take a look in the federal pork barrel Washington D.C. While everyone blames our superhawk president…”

    This article is available but not free in the Rolling Stones archives. It’s very good and still true.

  65. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 9:37 am

    Still shocked by stupid people :
    What are you, retarded #53? What damage is Obama doing today? My God man, don’t you read the papers?
    Massive national debt. High unemployment. Iran about to get the bomb. Islamic extremists taking over the Middle East. Sandy devastation not cleaned up. Tax increases but still unbelievable deficit. NK about to get the ability to reach our West Coast with rockets. More US troops than ever being killed in Afghanistan.
    Stop watching Honey Boo Boo and read different sources of news. Either that or please stop voting.

    Massive national debt — Good lord, if you start your reply attempting to blame this on Obama, you’re the one who needs to get educated. Deficits were never a problem when Bush Jr. was in office, but now suddenly they are, and are all Obama’s fault to boot? Interesting fairy tale but totally unsupported by the facts.

    High unemployment — Again, a problem whose roots did not begin with Obama. A problem that is slowly but steadily being addressed by his administration, in spite of the filibuster-happy Senate minority blocking his jobs bills from a vote on their merits.

    Iran about to get the bomb — A) How many wars would you like us to be fighting at once, exactly? North Korea already has nukes and they’re at least as likely as Iran to use them. Should we go to war with them too? B) Google “Stuxnet” and “Iran” and then tell me the US isn’t doing anything to stand in Iran’s way.

    Islamic extremists taking over the Middle East — See A) above.

    Sandy devastation not cleaned up — LOL. Now this is priceless. The GOP claims that there’s pork in a 1-page relief bill for $9 billion to fund federal flood insurance claims, delays the vote on said bill, yields after massive public outcry, and something like 67 House Repubs still have the gall to vote against it. Including folks who were screaming for similar funds for their homes states following Katrina.

    Unbelievable deficit — If the economy goes back in the tank, this will only get worse. The ticket out is, among other things, government spending as well as money in the hands of middle-class consumers. Austerity will only wreck things further, as Greece and Spain show all too well. And again, why are deficits only a problem now that Obama is prez?

    NK and rockets — Yeah. Covered. We’re not the world police. We got enough problems here to deal with.

    More US troops than ever being killed in Afghanistan — Your suggestion for pulling out? A power vacuum and the return of the Taliban? Maybe a war with Pakistan since they’re a operations base for the Taliban? Drones strikes and killing bin Laden aren’t enough for you?

    If you don’t want to be surprised by stupid people, I’d recommend either avoiding mirrors or at least steeling yourself for the truth first.

  66. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 9:40 am

    BTW Bill, your comment was excellent.

  67. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    Mitch :
    JW,
    As Molly Ivins famously said, Jimmy Carter is enough to give Christianity a good name. So he’d have made a great President of a Christian country, but was a terrible fit for the United States.
    The United States is an unusual and remarkable country, whose electorate felt that an actor who played military men in the movies was more macho, and therefore more Presidential, than a former nuclear submarine officer.

    Jimmy Carter lost all pretense of being macho when he had a battle with a bunny rabbit. AND LOST!

  68. January 8, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    If its a contest between macho and intelligent I will make the point that Jimmy Carter had a degree in nuclear engineering and fleet strategic command experience. In an era when endless wars and military expansioin has bankrupted the government are we looking for “macho?” Really? More of the same?

  69. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    Anonymous :
    BTW Bill, your comment was excellent.

    Except Bill (and the rest of you libs) doesn’t mean it or, as usual, hasn’t thought it through. He says cut the budget by 5% this year and again next year? Of course he wants to exempt Social Security, Medicare and the other social spending. He doesn’t mean to cut the arts or unemployment costs or any of those programs.

    Dems and some Repubs, Libs and some Cons say that cutting government spending would cause a recession. Well about the effect of the deficit and the national debt? The only reason we don’t have inflation now is because of the Federal Reserve artificially holding down interest rate and that can’t last forever without huge inflation latter. When it comes time to pay the piper THAT will affect the economy far more.

    What about the interest on the National Debt? Even now, with historically low interest rates, the payment on the debt consumes almost 25% of the budget. With Obama doubling the National Debt during his eight years how much will the payments consume in years to come especially when interest rates climb again? What will the impact on Social Spending be then?

    Or does that even matter because you want yours now and to hell with your children or grandchildren’s generation?

  70. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    Taking money out of the hands of people who actually spend it (senior, middle-class workers) will not help the economy. Taking money out of the hands of people who are otherwise likely to hide it in tax shelters or use it to offshore more American jobs will not hurt the economy, nor will it keep rich people from trying to get richer. You think they’re just going to take their ball and go home because they get taxed at something higher than 15% for capital gains?

    Cut the bloated Pentagon budget. Cut tax breaks for Big Oil and tax loopholes for special interests. Raise investment tax rates to something nearer income tax rates. Eliminate tax breaks for businesses claiming expenses related to offshoring jobs. Break up banks that are too big to fail, and kill the parasitic HMO industry. Then see where we are, before taking dollars away from Social Security or Medicare.

  71. January 8, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    Anonymous :

    Anonymous :
    BTW Bill, your comment was excellent.

    Except Bill (and the rest of you libs) doesn’t mean it or, as usual, hasn’t thought it through. He says cut the budget by 5% this year and again next year? Of course he wants to exempt Social Security, Medicare and the other social spending. He doesn’t mean to cut the arts or unemployment costs or any of those programs.

    No I specifically targeted the Defense Department as worthy of a $100 billion chop because it has doubled in size in a decade and as I pointed out (or at least I alluded to it, didn;t you get it?)

    Social Security payments are not part of the federal budget and never have been. They are paid out of a trust fund that must be actuarially sound But the trust fund has been funded out of payroll taxes paid by workers and employers like you through your lives, not by income or property taxes. Yes you are being taxed, but it is the proverbial flat tax that some of you libertarian republicans like so much. So cheer up grumpy.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  72. January 8, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    San Diego County has over 300,000 jobs direclty linked to the Department of Defense. If DoD cuts spending in Dago by 10% whether through whimsey or politics, (Galveston wins out in some basing decision) then its minus 30,000 jobs with one stroke, with an economy circling the toilet.

    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

  73. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    highboldtage :
    If its a contest between macho and intelligent I will make the point that Jimmy Carter had a degree in nuclear engineering and fleet strategic command experience. In an era when endless wars and military expansioin has bankrupted the government are we looking for “macho?” Really? More of the same?

    Yeah, but Reagan had actual magical powers. He made most of his party believe that trickle-down economics was a viable economic theory. Pretty sure that Wizard >> Nuclear Engineer/Submarine Officer.

  74. Just Watchin
    January 8, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Mitch :JW,
    As Molly Ivins famously said, Jimmy Carter is enough to give Christianity a good name. So he’d have made a great President of a Christian country, but was a terrible fit for the United States.
    The United States is an unusual and remarkable country, whose electorate felt that an actor who played military men in the movies was more macho, and therefore more Presidential, than a former nuclear submarine officer.

    wait a minute Mitch. Didn’t California elect an actor Governor that couldn’t even pronounce the states name?

  75. Just Watchin
    January 8, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    To Anonymous…( the stupid, liberal one) : Still can’t come up with a name?? Surely, you have at least one friend with more than a 6th grade education that could help you.

  76. Just Watchin
    January 8, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    Anonymous :

    highboldtage :
    If its a contest between macho and intelligent I will make the point that Jimmy Carter had a degree in nuclear engineering and fleet strategic command experience. In an era when endless wars and military expansioin has bankrupted the government are we looking for “macho?” Really? More of the same?

    Yeah, but Reagan had actual magical powers. He made most of his party believe that trickle-down economics was a viable economic theory. Pretty sure that Wizard >> Nuclear Engineer/Submarine Officer.

    To anonymous (the stupid, liberal one)…..wasn’t it Carter that “lusted for women in his heart” ? Is that liberal speak for thinking about chicks while you whack off ?

  77. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    Wasn’t it JW that was mocking Krugman for name calling at #13?

    Keep classing it up, JW. If you think you have time between dodging taxes and fantasizing about Palin, that is.

  78. Just Watchin
    January 8, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Anonymous :
    Wasn’t it JW that was mocking Krugman for name calling at #13?
    Keep classing it up, JW. If you think you have time between dodging taxes and fantasizing about Palin, that is.

    Anonymous…..still can’t come up with a name??

  79. Graduate
    January 8, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    This from Wikipedia:

    After high school, Carter enrolled at Georgia Southwestern College, in Americus. Later, he applied to the United States Naval Academy and, after taking additional mathematics courses at Georgia Tech, he was admitted in 1943. Carter graduated 59th out of 820 midshipmen at the Naval Academy with a Bachelor of Science degree with an unspecified major, as was the custom at the academy at that time.[15]

    He was (and is) FAR above St Ronald in intellect and education, but a nuclear engineer he wasn’t.

  80. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    I bet Reagan, were he still alive, wouldn’t whine about responding to anonymous posts on a blog if he really had something of substance to say.

    Of course, if he was just some old, bored retired guy looking to throw a few insults and catch phrases around to get his jollies without having to take a principled position on anything, he might feel just like JW does.

  81. Just Watchin
    January 8, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    Graduate :
    This from Wikipedia:
    After high school, Carter enrolled at Georgia Southwestern College, in Americus. Later, he applied to the United States Naval Academy and, after taking additional mathematics courses at Georgia Tech, he was admitted in 1943. Carter graduated 59th out of 820 midshipmen at the Naval Academy with a Bachelor of Science degree with an unspecified major, as was the custom at the academy at that time.[15]
    He was (and is) FAR above St Ronald in intellect and education, but a nuclear engineer he wasn’t.

    This is a perfect example of how liberals read something, and come away with something entirely different. Trace the thread, and tell me how this was ever about Carter vs. Reagan. Hint for all the Low Information Voters (liberals)…..first mention of Carter is post # 57.

  82. Just Watchin
    January 8, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Anonymous :
    I bet Reagan, were he still alive, wouldn’t whine about responding to anonymous posts on a blog if he really had something of substance to say.
    Of course, if he was just some old, bored retired guy looking to throw a few insults and catch phrases around to get his jollies without having to take a principled position on anything, he might feel just like JW does.

    Anonymous…….still can’t come up with a name ??? Pitiful.

  83. January 8, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY — NAVAL HISTORY & HERITAGE COMMAND

    http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq60-14.htm

    Lieutenant James Earle Carter, Jr., USN
    James Earle (Jimmy) Carter, Jr., who in 1976 became the fifth consecutive President with prior Navy service, was born in Plains, Georgia on 1 October 1924, to Lillian Gordy and James Earle Carter. Carter grew up in a rural atmosphere and attended public schools. Graduating from Plains High School in 1941, he attended Georgia Southwestern College in Americus, Georgia. After a year there, Carter transferred to Georgia Institute of Technology to study mathematics for a year in order to qualify for the U.S. Naval Academy. In 1943, Carter received an appointment to the academy and became a member of the Class of 1947. After completing the accelerated wartime program, he graduated on 5 June 1946 with distinction and obtained his commission as ensign.

    After he graduated, Carter was stationed at Norfolk and assigned to USS Wyoming (E-AG 17), an older battleship that had been converted into a floating laboratory for testing new electronics and gunnery equipment. On Wyoming, Carter served as radar officer and CIC officer. Detached when Wyoming was decommissioned on 23 July 1947, he was assigned that day to another similarly used battleship, USS Mississippi (E-AG 128) as Training and Education Officer. After completing two years of surface ship duty, Carter chose to apply for submarine duty. Accepted, he began the six-month course at the U.S. Navy Submarine School, Submarine Base, New London, Connecticut from 14 June to 17 December 1948.

    Upon completion of the course, Carter was assigned to USS Pomfret (SS 391) based at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii where he reported on board on 29 December. Pomfret left on a simulated war patrol to the western Pacific and the Chinese coast on 4 January 1949. On board, Carter qualified in a submarine on 4 February, and served as Communications Officer, Sonar Officer, Electronics Officer, Gunnery Officer and Supply Officer. On 9 March, he served as the approach officer for a simulated torpedo firing at target ships, and scored a “hit.” The submarine returned to Pearl Harbor on 25 March. Soon after Carter’s promotion to Lieutenant Junior Grade on 5 June 1949, Pomfret was sent in July to San Diego where the submarine operated along the California coast.

    Detached from Pomfret on 1 February 1951, Carter was assigned as Engineering Officer for the precommissioning detail for USS K-1 (SSK 1). K-1, the first postwar submarine built, was under construction by Electric Boat Division, General Dynamics Corporation, Groton, Connecticut. After K-1’s commissioning on 10 November 1951, Carter served as Executive Officer, Engineering Officer, and Electronics Repair Officer. During this tour he also qualified for command of a submarine.

    When Admiral Hyman G. Rickover (then a captain) started his program to create nuclear powered submarines, Carter wanted to join the program and was interviewed by Rickover. On 1 June 1952, Carter was promoted to Lieutenant. Selected by Rickover, Carter was detached on 16 October 1952 from K-1 for duty with the U. S. Atomic Energy Commission, Division of Reactor Development in Schenectady, New York. From 3 November 1952 to 1 March 1953, he served on temporary duty with the Naval Reactors Branch, U. S. Atomic Energy Commission, Washington, DC to assist “in the design and development of nuclear propulsion plants for naval vessels.”

    From 1 March to 8 October, Carter was preparing to become the engineering officer for the nuclear power plant to be placed in USS Seawolf (SSN 575), one of the first submarines to operate on atomic power. He assisted in setting up training for the enlisted men who would serve on Seawolf. During this time his father became very sick and died in July 1953. After his father’s death in 1953, Carter resigned from the Navy to return to Georgia to manage the family interests. Carter was honorably discharged on 9 October 1953 at Headquarters, Third Naval District in New York City. On 7 December 1961, he transferred to the retired reserve with the rank of Lieutenant at his own request.

    http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq60-14.htm

  84. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    Take your medication, JW. You’re starting to repeat yourself.

  85. Just Watchin
    January 8, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    Anonymous :
    Take your medication, JW. You’re starting to repeat yourself.

    Just make up a name. Get your mommy to help you.

  86. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 4:43 pm

    “Just make up a name”

    Why?

  87. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    So he has a target for his insults. It’s how he operates. Did it with PJ, with Mitch, with Tra… I think the guy lives a sad life and is just looking for some spiteful interaction to make his remaining days at least somewhat interesting.

  88. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    Graduate, if you’re downgrading Carter from a nuclear engineer to an engineering officer on a nuclear submarine, I’m downgrading Reagan from a wizard to a vodouist.

  89. Just Watchin
    January 8, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    See…..these last three posts are exactly why you all need to create names, so that you each recieve proper credit for your own moronic comments

  90. Just Watchin
    January 8, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    Did any of you LIVs determine when this thread became a Carter vs. Reagan thing?

  91. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    Apparently sometime after you tried to turn it into a Ferraro vs. Palin thing.

    D vs. R, forward vs. backasswards. It’s well within the spirit of the original post.

  92. Just Watchin
    January 8, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    Anonymous :
    Apparently sometime after you tried to turn it into a Ferraro vs. Palin thing.
    D vs. R, forward vs. backasswards. It’s well within the spirit of the original post.

    But you have to admit…..Palin is WAYYY hotter than Ferraro. I mean, I don’t think even Slick Willie would do Ferraro, and he once said that a mummy looked pretty good.

  93. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    Just Watchin :

    Anonymous :
    Apparently sometime after you tried to turn it into a Ferraro vs. Palin thing.
    D vs. R, forward vs. backasswards. It’s well within the spirit of the original post.

    But you have to admit…..Palin is WAYYY hotter than Ferraro. I mean, I don’t think even Slick Willie would do Ferraro, and he once said that a mummy looked pretty good.

    I’d offer to do so if in turn you would admit that Carter was smarter than Reagan, but the problem is, Carter’s smarts vs. Reagan’s smarts is a relevant comparison as far as their presidential qualifications. Palin’s looks vs. Ferraro’s — not so much. If Palin had ever made it into office, she would have been an utter fucking disaster. If she didn’t quit two years in, that is.

  94. Don't lie to me
    January 8, 2013 at 6:08 pm

    highboldtage :

    Anonymous :

    Anonymous :
    BTW Bill, your comment was excellent.

    Except Bill (and the rest of you libs) doesn’t mean it or, as usual, hasn’t thought it through. He says cut the budget by 5% this year and again next year? Of course he wants to exempt Social Security, Medicare and the other social spending. He doesn’t mean to cut the arts or unemployment costs or any of those programs.

    No I specifically targeted the Defense Department as worthy of a $100 billion chop because it has doubled in size in a decade and as I pointed out (or at least I alluded to it, didn;t you get it?)
    Social Security payments are not part of the federal budget and never have been. They are paid out of a trust fund that must be actuarially sound But the trust fund has been funded out of payroll taxes paid by workers and employers like you through your lives, not by income or property taxes. Yes you are being taxed, but it is the proverbial flat tax that some of you libertarian republicans like so much. So cheer up grumpy.
    have a peaceful day,
    Bill

    You are wrong again but that is usual for the course. The SS payments are part of the federal budget. All you want are tax increases and cut the defense budget. You don’t want your Social Security increases reduced. Your greed will condemn the next generation.

  95. Don't lie to me
    January 8, 2013 at 6:11 pm

    Carter had book smarts. Reagan had people smarts, street smarts.

    Carter was a disaster as President, maybe the worst in modern history before Obama. Reagan was a resounding sucess.

  96. Just Watchin
    January 8, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    Again numbnuts…..when did this become a contest between Carter and Reagan?? And don’t forget that you are in a state that elected a bodybuilder as governor who couldn’t even pronounce the state’s name.

  97. Just Watchin
    January 8, 2013 at 6:25 pm

    Just Watchin :
    Again numbnuts…..when did this become a contest between Carter and Reagan?? And don’t forget that you are in a state that elected a bodybuilder as governor who couldn’t even pronounce the state’s name.

    This was for Anonymous…..the stupid,liberal one.

  98. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    Don’t lie to me :
    Carter had book smarts. Reagan had people smarts, street smarts.
    Carter was a disaster as President, maybe the worst in modern history before Obama. Reagan was a resounding sucess.

    Your claim that Obama is a bad president was already refuted at #66. In fact, he may be one of the best ever. When history looks back on what he accomplished in light of the challenges facing him and the damage that his predecessor did, opinions like yours will be relegated to Texas textbooks and Faux News reruns.

  99. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    Just Watchin :
    Again numbnuts…..when did this become a contest between Carter and Reagan?? And don’t forget that you are in a state that elected a bodybuilder as governor who couldn’t even pronounce the state’s name.

    A patriot who’s smart enough to find a way to avoid paying taxes can’t figure out how to scroll up?

  100. Shirer reader
    January 8, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    “When history looks back on what he accomplished. . .” Fox News history or Democracy Now history? There are at least two “histories”, and eachwill look back and see ENTIRELY different things.

  101. Anonymous
    January 8, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    Shirer reader :
    “When history looks back on what he accomplished. . .” Fox News history or Democracy Now history? There are at least two “histories”, and eachwill look back and see ENTIRELY different things.

    Perhaps we can predict which “history” will be based on logic and analytical reasoning, and which will be based on emotion:

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/09/07/your-brain-on-politics-the-cognitive-neuroscience-of-liberals-and-conservatives/#.UOz9tHeDmSp

  102. Plain Jane
    January 9, 2013 at 7:13 am

    Scott Taylor has lived at the end of Hinman Lane for over 50 years. It was his parent’s property. There isn’t a house on that lane that has been there less than 40 years with the exception of a mobile home at the corner and it has been there for over 20 years.

  103. notafan
    January 10, 2013 at 8:18 am

    Non-peer reviewed bullshit studies. the base of the liberals. You like studies that say what you think, not science.

  104. Mitch
    January 10, 2013 at 8:37 am

    notafan,

    The studies may be right or wrong, good or bad. You’re welcome to your opinion.

    But the studies are peer-reviewed. Liberals call that a “fact.”

    http://blog.psico.edu.uy/cibpsi/files/2011/04/brains.pdf

    Facts are items of information about reality that liberals think are undeniable, given the ability for anyone who investigates them to determine they are true. For example, the existence of fossils is a “fact.” Whether or not fossils are scattered by Jehovah to fool non-believers; that’s opinion.

  105. Anonymous
    January 10, 2013 at 9:31 am

    notafan :
    Non-peer reviewed bullshit studies. the base of the liberals. You like studies that say what you think, not science.

    What a deliciously ironic comment.

  106. anonymous
    January 11, 2013 at 7:33 am

    Want to get a conservative mad? Tell them a lie.
    Want to get a liberal mad? Tell them the truth.

  107. January 11, 2013 at 8:33 am

    Liberal shrimbral. In case some haven’t noticed . . . we exited the male dominated Picean Age – conservative, liberal, re publican, demonology (democracy), and the gazillion other separating words of lies. No wonder Moses told the gathered crowd to go through and slay one another – they refused to stop clinging (Kling-Ons) to the old programmed, comfortably numb, in-the-crypt ways of thinking. They insisted on bowing down and bending over to their false idol. If you continue to bow down to the false God (gold, oil, drugs), more than your knees will be sore.
    Your thoughts become your beliefs, your beliefs become your words, your words become your actions, your actions become your habits, your habits become your value, your value becomes your destiny. -Gandhi
    Someone please explain to me the ‘positiveness’ in continuing down the same path of believed sep ar a tion – by thinking, believing, writing/posting words that have no value. Haven’t you had enough? The change isn’t happening to us – we are the change.
    Isn’t it time we realized, as a species, how much we are alike, instead of our imagined/pretend/programed differences? Don’t we all desire the same thing? -Peace of mind.

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