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From Forest Queen


(The following is part of a comment posted by Forest Queen sometime yesterday. –Mitch)

As there can be no healing without forgiveness, some time soon we’ll all gather, as we sometimes do for public ceremony, to acknowledge past wounds brought about by our ancestors here on America’s soil (Turtle Island) – genocide that was labeled ‘Manifest Destiny.’  (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_Wiyot_Massacre –Mitch)

The thought of ‘originies’ tribes takes us back and connects us to another time and space, a time when we trusted our intuition and knew how to be stewards of the earth. It was a time when we felt a deeper connection to everything, With so much information coming in all of the time, our connection can be veiled. I think we love the originies people because we can feel that they are still in touch with something bigger than themselves.

The word originies/indigenous conjures up images of a time long ago, ancient civilizations, different cultures and traditions we could never understand. It also makes us think of jungles and plant medicine, unfamiliar territory to most. But this territory is where people are finding there way back to themselves. Those who are noticing that something is missing from their lives are seeking ways to get back in touch with their soul’s purpose. These tribes of people are coming together everywhere – all religions, all walks of life are joining together to make a difference in the world – saying enough is enough – and because of this, things are changing.

We can no longer stand by and allow the lies to fill our day. I believe it is time to take control of our destiny. If things are not working, fix them. One way to do this is to begin to clear your life of all that no longer serves you. If it makes you feel bad or negative, it is a lie.If it makes you feel good and is positive, it is the truth. “The truth will set you free,” and freedom is what we’re all seeking. Speak your truth no matter what.

Your guidance system is always within. When we are open and dial in to our heart and the planet, magical things can, and do happen.

  1. January 27, 2013 at 9:47 am

    Thank you! So true and inspirational…a gem from the Redwood Forest…

  2. January 27, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Get em’ ‘Queenie!’

  3. The lone dissenter
    January 27, 2013 at 10:08 am


    As there can be no healing without forgiveness

    She began with a false premise. It’s a nice thought, and maybe helpful for most people, but niceness doesn’t make an idea true.

    If it makes you feel bad or negative, it is a lie.

    That’s called living in denial. A great many things that make us feel bad or negatively impact our lives are true. Maybe there can be no healing without accepting reality.

  4. Mitch
    January 27, 2013 at 10:13 am


    I disagree with your first point. I agree completely with your second. I’m curious what FQ will have to say, as I suspect she means something less odd-sounding.

  5. The lone dissenter
    January 27, 2013 at 10:22 am

    Mitch, why can there be no healing without forgiveness? Do you know how all people heal? Are you speaking from a religious perspective? What gives you supreme knowledge over the sketchy science of human psychology?

  6. Mitch
    January 27, 2013 at 10:32 am


    What I said was “I disagree with your first point.” In other words, in my opinion you are incorrect. I no more assert I have “supreme knowledge over the sketchy science of human psychology” in disagreeing with your statement and agreeing with FQs than you assert you have “supreme knowledge over the sketchy science of human psychology” by disagreeing with FQ’s statement.

    Each of us has expressed our opinion.

    As for the reason I’m inclined to believe there can be no healing without forgiveness, it is because I believe when people continue to hold grudges, they have not healed. Forgiveness is not, as I understand it, an acceptance that what’s been done was acceptable. It’s a personal acceptance that the past cannot be changed, and that you desire to get on with your life without holding a grudge.

    I’d characterize a grudge as a focus on revenge, in hopes of equalizing an injury done in the past. Christianity talks about it, so in that sense it could be called religious — Jesus said turn the other cheek.

    For those who’d rather not take advice from Jesus, there’s this talk by a Buddhist I’ve never heard of. Great talk, though, IMO:


  7. Mitch
    January 27, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Since there’s been no further comment from FQ, I’ll add that I suspect FQ’s definition of truth and lie is somewhat different than the one you and I use every day.

    There’s certainly a sense in which it could be argued that if it makes you feel bad it’s a lie. For example, it’s possible to take a look at the condition of the world and think to oneself, “thank goodness I’ll never lack useful work to do.”

  8. Paul Bunyons ghost
    January 27, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    Am I the only one who has trouble with this ‘stewardship of the earth’ thing. The term implies that humans are separate from nature, and above it, and can shape it as we wish. Even if well intentioned, it is very judgemental. I’d rather see us moving back toward a system where we are part of nature, do our job just like the rest of the world, and we all survive.

  9. Anonymous
    January 27, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    I was with you up to this point:

    “If it makes you feel bad or negative, it is a lie. If it makes you feel good and is positive, it is the truth.”

    That kind of mushy-headedness is a big part of what is wrong with so many of our fellow Americans. Too many of us are determined to avoid anything that is difficult to think about, and/or makes us “feel negative.” We want to go on enjoying our fairly comfortable lives without being bothered with anything that makes us “feel bad or negative.” For example, concerns about global warming, needless wars, racism, torture, exploitation and so on don’t feel “good” and “positive,” so many people just choose to believe that those things aren’t real — or at least that they aren’t real important.

  10. January 27, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    I’m just about on my way out the door, so I’ll reply to the above at a later time.
    Last Monday I joined fellow comrades here in Humboldt and we met up with a ‘tour guide’ in Willits. We toured (about 3 hrs.) where CalTrans intends to put in the Willits By-pass (obviously this brings Richardson Grove into the bigger picture). We then went to a meeting that was in progress in Willits. Talk about vaklempt, this is hardly the first time during one of these meetings where one of us says that they are willing to put there life on the line. I think my heart stops momentarily every time I hear those words. The forward thinking ideas that come from a group of like-minded people such as this could never come about on an individual basis.
    Tomorrow is the first day that CalTrans can start “topping and limbing” (leaving a 4′ stump for later removal) the cluster of oaks where they will begin their onslaught. This is not good news for the oaks which are being short-time preserved, supposedly because the Warblers, a bird of concern, will be nesting there by February 1. This is the first time that the taking/desecrating of tress is on public property.

    Tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. you can meet at the bookstore next to the laundromat in Garberville and carpool down to Willits. This is a non-violent protest and an on-going non-violent training. Support demonstration is set for Monday (tomorrow). You can also go to Willits and park at the Evergreen Mall (where Ray’s Mkt. used to be and Rite-Aid) shuttles will take participants to the site -Wallace Road on the south end of Willits.

    The north coast needs your support!

  11. Crying in my sleep!
    January 27, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    Oh the horror! All those poor trees are going to get murdered! Its worse than the Nazi’s! We will hear the screams of those trees for the rest of our lives!

  12. January 27, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    #9 I can relate to what you’re saying. For me, it almost feels like I am accepting the bad without resistance when I only concentrate, or look for “positive” energy, feelings or whatever.
    If someone is accused of being negative when they want to talk about wars, torture or racism, then give me “negativity” over disinterested contentment every time.
    Not to say that Her Majesty is disinterested, or content.

  13. Dan
    January 27, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    FQ are you saying, ignore the obvious bottle-neck
    at Willits? Long-term FQ what is your plan?
    There are few worse transportation zones on the northwest
    coast- maybe S. Broadway in Eureka- in urban-planning vernacular~ obscene.
    We have interstate trucks braking not once but dozens of times.
    Perhaps we could recognize the fact that
    there is some long-term positive result if we allow through
    traffic, through.

  14. January 28, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    Mostly I went down to Willits to support the people who come up here when we call them to join us. No plan on my part – I think that whatever the people collectively decide is what should be done, or not. I go to the bottom line – $ -CA INC is bankrupt, yes? CalTrans has a big ol office building in Willits – 2 State persons in there not doing much. After about 10 mins. of talking, the guy behind the counter just said that he’d lost his voice, and walked off.
    Thing is, both Humboldt (Richardson Grove), and Mendo. (Willits By-pass) people run, scurry, flee to an attorney and the suits end up ‘stuck’ in FEDERAL ‘court.’ I can’t see the logic.

  15. January 29, 2013 at 12:29 am

    The lone dissenter,
    Truth is an opinion. If I still had the STATE -owned D/L – to me it would feel (literally) bad – as it’s a lie that any one of us has to have a company card to motor down the road.

    People fear the government – hence, we have tyranny.

  16. January 29, 2013 at 12:43 am

    Paul Bunyons ghost,
    I agree with you – we are nature. Nothing exists in a disconnected manner.

    ‘Stewards’ – wouldn’t be logging the trees til there’s a mere 1% remaining of the old growth (farming 10,000 acres of hemp will provide as much paper, bldg.material, and pulp as 41,000 acres of forest), wouldn’t be polluting the water, air and soil, wouldn’t be toxicity in your face, with different mixes added daily – you get the idea.

  17. January 29, 2013 at 12:51 am

    Anon @9,
    Mushy-headedness huh? I put that “if it makes you feel bad or negative, it’s a lie” AFTER
    “One way to do this is to clear your life of all that no longer serves you” as in material objects . . . junk, clutter, old clothes, shoes etc. etc.

  18. January 29, 2013 at 1:01 am

    Crying in my sleep,
    “I wish I was a despot so that I might save the noble, the beautiful trees that are daily falling
    sacrifice to the cupidity of their owners or the necessity of the poor. The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder.”

    Evidentally you haven’t been close enough to hear them when they fall – or can’t hear.

    I read recently where some poor idiot actually questioned the fact that lobster can feel.

  19. Paul Bunyons ghost
    January 29, 2013 at 2:35 am

    Ok. Steward is better than corporate capitalism. A nice bridge to a world in which everything survives.

  20. That Other Anonymous
    January 29, 2013 at 8:54 am

    “Mushy-headedness huh? I put that ‘if it makes you feel bad or negative, it’s a lie'”

    Most of your statements on this blog “make me feel bad or negative.” Therefore they are “lies,” right? So, quit lying, darn it!

  21. January 29, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Paul Bunyons ghost,
    We’re going to go from survive to thrive. A video on YouTube – ‘Thrive,’ if you haven’t watched it, I think you’ll enjoy it.

  22. January 29, 2013 at 10:38 am

    That Other Anonymous,

    I have no control over how you ‘feel.’ When you see a post of mine – I suggest that you skip it and not read it . . . It is not my intent to make anyone of us feel bad or negative. Your reception of my intent needs to be tuned-in . . . or not. There are frequency generators, vitamin B-17 spray, an afternoon of electro-shock therapy, among others.

  23. That Man
    January 29, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    warms the cockles of my Sihde heart, it does. but queen we need to go past being a steward to nature and go back to being a kin to nature, that is were are indigenous heart is. its more then equivalent exchange…but baby steps are good

  24. That Other Anonymous
    January 29, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    Oh, so according to the original post, if something makes Forest Queen feel bad or negative, it is a lie, but according to FQ’s latest comment, when Forest Queen writes something that makes someone else feel bad or negative it’s not a lie but we just doesn’t know it’s the truth because we’re not properly “tuned in” to her intent and may need frequency generators, vitamin B-17 spray, or electro-shock therapy. Thanks for clearing that up, FQ.

  25. January 29, 2013 at 11:19 pm

    You’re welcome.

  26. January 30, 2013 at 12:31 am

    That Man,
    I agree, but after looking at pix. and reading today’s devastation of the planet, I’m wondering if there’s going to be much left of kindom.
    Birds and fish are still washing up to shore.
    The State is a firing squad.
    North Carolina & Oregon (Medford) have police depts. that are gearing-up for martial law in the first half of this year (Interesting since City Charters don’t even mention Police Depts).
    North Korea is experiencing a horrible famine brought on by insane policies the government has been forcing on its population for decades – really bad – cannibalism.
    U.S. INC. ‘free trade’ debt to China ($2.3 tril in last decade) is being converted from debt to equity – China would own U.S. businesses, U.S. infrastructure, and U.S. high-value land. The economic colonization of America is already far more advanced than most Americans would dare to imagine.

    Grim I tell ya.

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