Arkley’s disclaimer
Below is the disclaimer that was attached to the so-called apology businessman Rob Arkley sent to councilman Larry Glass the day after the infamous altercation at Avalon. Thanks to Larry for posting it in the comment thread below.
9/6/07
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Thanks for nothing.
Larry is stonewalling everyone.
Post the contents, not the disclaimer. Larry was the intended recipient. The unintended recipient may not share or disseminate it. Larry was the intended recipient. Get it?
Also, the message was sent to Larry’s public e-mail address at his city council e-mail address, not to his home or store.
Heraldo, you are so wrong on this one.
wrong? helraldo didnt even make any comments on the issue…lol.lol.lol….3:36.tell rob that hes losing this battle..
Perhaps you are intentionally misunderstanding the disclaimer.
This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed
If Arkley wants to release the contents of the email, no one is stopping him.
I can read, too.
It is a release to the intended recipient.
The intended recipient is free to “use” the message. An unintended recipient is not.
Jeez.
Enough already.
Let’s see how Mr. Arkley apologized.
Come on, Larry. Cough it up.
FINALLY, FINALLY everyone is going to see just how viciously bully boy fights a battle. Strap on your seat belts boys and girls because this is going to get much uglier than most of you can imagine. On the flip side, Larry Glass is going to need a whole lot of emotional and financial support, becuase the pressure he will face will be tremendous.
I agree with Heraldo. I think if I were Larry I wouldn’t pass it on without legal council, and that is assuming Larry even wants to pass it on. “Enough already” is right! Go do whatever you like to do on Saturday.
legal counsel.
On Saturdays, I like reading apology letters hidden from the truth.
Then your Saturday seems to be a bust so far.
God this story is weird. Forget Bill the monkey, Arkley seems to be the chief chimp in town flinging shit.
When Cherie was running for Mayor, Rob told me his battle philosophy was “go ugly early.” I guess he meant it.
Mr. Arkley’s going to be in for a big surprise when he finds out just how slippery prison soap is…
4:19 — how so very helpful.
Where’s that letter, Larry?
Seems like some are trying to bait Larry into something which will only be used against him after he does it.Maybe Arkley should preemptively release the e-mail if he has nothing to hide.
Where’s that letter,Rob?
Perhaps Mr. Arkley should start laying the groundwork to pay for the protection of the Sorreno’s. He doesn’t want to turn to the Aryan Brotherhood unless he has no other choice…
Those Arkley supporters must have gotten the word to put on a blog show for the new PR guy.
Arkley’s PR guy pretty much gave him permission to release the email. That is standard language you get from almost any business. Give me a break – release the email.
And tell me again why Arkley doesn’t release it?
If Mr. Arkley ends up going to prison he should consider getting a tattoo of his name across his back. That way when he’s bent over, Bubba can just look down to get his name. It’s a good way to make friends!
and why do you even care to read it? You seem obsessed with it.
A little E-mail is sending this mess straight to the Octagon. A little MMA between RA and LG may be what this issue needs to find its resolution.
An e-mail??? What a circus!
-boy
whaaa?
If Arkley wants to release the contents of the email, no one is stopping him.
The email is a diversion. We’ll see what it said eventually, but whatever it says I doubt Arkley apologized for shoving and threatening Larry.
# anonymous Says:
September 22nd, 2007 at 5:34 pm
whaaa?
I am going to guess that this was meant for my previous comment. Just ignore me there 5:34 pm, I am not taking this story serious.
Funny thing, I did see a red Ferrari today cruising HWY 101 in Eureka, and I thought just for one second, that Magnum PI was in town doing work for RA (possibly)
-boy
Heraldo, how about a poll: who do you believe, Glass or Arkley?
Most people think Arkley did exactly what Glass has alleged. The disagreement is over whether or not it was okay. The wheels of justice grind slowly; Arkley knows, so meanwhile he will bet his bottom dollar he can make the community believe him over Glass. It’s all on the line for Arkley, because he has placed his honor on the line. Question is, do you believe him or Glass?
I think your answer lies somewhere in the middle. I have never seen Rob act physically, and Larry seems to be credible. Perhaps it was a finger point that touched Larry and was interpreted worse than it was?
“The email is a diversion. We’ll see what it said eventually, but whatever it says I doubt Arkley apologized for shoving and threatening Larry.”
Well if he didn’t do anything wrong then he shouldn’t apologize.But if he had nothing to apologize for,then why send the e-mail.
His PR man and some bloggers are saying that an apology was sent immediately after.An admission of guilt.And I’d assume that what Larry is getting from his attorney,why release the letter and incur some potential liability when his team is already saying that Larry was correct about what happened at the Avalon.
The real issue here, as in any apology, is contrition. Contrition goes beyond words; it must include action to demonstrate a committment to making ammends for one’s actions.
If Arkley’s e-mail was, indeed, an apology, then he should be the one to make it public. He needs to fess up to his actions, which means a public apology. That’s his responsibility, not Larry’s.
Oh, Mark. You can apologize when there isn’t anything done wrong – you can apologize for your tone, for yelling, for what you said, for not believing him, for not listening – any number of things. An apology does not mean you are guilty. It can just mean you are sorry.
I can’t believe the guy is using his daughter as a shield for verbal and physical threatening. Very tacky.
Remember when John Mccain made a joke about Chelsea Clinton being ugly, way back in 1994? Bill in that situation should have let Mccain have it, but he didn’t. If Arkleys daughter wants to blame someone for the publics perception of her family, why not start with her mother who did everything she could to be a public figure in Eureka. Or her father, who stumbles through life offending and harassing people who don’t tow his line. Somehow it’s Larry “The Sticker Guy’s” fault? Hellloo!!
Why not give this one a rest Heraldo? At least for a while. Wait for the official investigation to be completed. Then if it doesn’t go your way you can go after Arkely and EPD, a twofur. You can always spend a day or two going after Palco.
Why not give this one a rest Heraldo? At least for a while. Wait for the official investigation to be completed.
Because there’s a new PR guy making headlines.
Why not give this one a rest Heraldo? At least for a while. Wait for the official investigation to be completed.
You mean I should stop assuming all of these Blog Aliases to make all of these comments, and wait for the police report?
-boy, err, Heraldo (fanning the flames of rhetoric in Blog Land)
Heraldo, how about a poll: who do you believe, Glass or Arkley?
Arkley hasn’t said anything. There’s nothing to believe or disbelieve. Not available to the public anyway.
Come on Arkley, release the e-mail. If it was an apology, let’s see it. Or release Glass from that ridiculous disclaimer so he can share it. The ball is in your court.
And if it was an apology, why do you continue with this PR blitz against Glass?
arkley “apologized” at the same time that he said “glass is a publicity seeking politician”……that cancelled the apology…you cant talk out of both sides of your mouth………………if i tell someone that i am sorry, and then 1 minute later tell all my friends that i am not sorry, what does that mean? that cancells the apology…..HES NOT SORRY,. the battle is on
If you apologize for the verbal confrontation portion, but then omit the part where you shoved the guy (Twice!) I would say thats not a genuine apology.
how come you keep deleting this link?
C’mon, capdiamont. Try to keep up.
Well he is riding the NCRA train.
He musta hit a landslide.
Kinda hard to hit a landslide in Samoa. Maybe you need to keep up.
Maybe I should have you followed. Then I’d know where you live.
shouldn’t be hard to find out, I’m not exactly hidden behind my alias.
Perhaps someday I’ll care enough to try to figure it out. Maybe I’ll even come up with a thin-but-mysterious plot to make it more exciting.
I estimate, less than 5 sec needed
Larry is way to busy to run a blog, even if he could type fast enough. Cap, no offense, but your real identity doesn’t matter.
The spin machine is about to blow a fuse.
Spin-spin-spin = lies-lies-lies
Dude, Arkley already blew a fuse! That’s what this is all about!
Carol & Greg’s Place: Finally, a Glass/Arkley Poll
I am sure it will be a valid and unbiased sample, a proper poll.
Maybe even more valid and unbiased than Arkley’s PR campaign?
Oh, I am sure there will be more blown fuses!
It’s all in your court, heraldo. You can set this all straight by coming out.
Gee, rose, I thought you had it all figured out.
Did I say that?
Not in so many words. But your theories are most entertaining.
They truly are.
Those two being so involved (HH and L) shows they have banded together against Marina Center and Arkley, which is fine, but it makes Larry look less than an innocent, and a bit underhanded, finding an anonymous way to snipe. So if Larry is not involved with this blog, someone should “come out” and say so. It looks to me like both parties on this issue (Arkley and Glass) need to show a little more character and self control.
That’s right, darn it! Larry posted something on Heraldo’s BLOG! They must be a conspiracy against the local billionaire’s pet project!
Marina Center – what IS that, anyway, except the market-targeted fancy name for a developer-driven commercial project?? I mean Come ON.
And that darned Glass needs to control himself, spin, spin, spin…
I have yet to see any evidence worth squat that links Glass to Heraldo. And even if they were blood brothers, it’s irrelevant. Enough with the lies, oops, I mean spin.
larry could be heraldo and nothing would change….arkley still threatened a CITY COUNCILMAN!!!!!!…………….
…….the fact that some people defend bullies actually means very little to this case. it does show people’s true colors though. some people respect democracy and law, and some dont……..
i dont think that larry is heraldo, by the way.
I don’t get it-
How could you possibly blame Glass in this one?
Because he is pressing charges? And because he should have just kept his mouth shut?
Do you think he is lying?
I just don’t understand everyone attacking him- makes no sense whatsoever
2:10
most of the pro-bully crowd is affiliated with arkley in some way…its a real small world in humboldt county
To recap:
1) Glass offered a sticker in his store for free and t-shirts at cost.
2) After hearing from Arkley’s daughters, he stopped offering the merchandise.
3) Glass was not the author of the merchandise.
4) None of the three first things excuses the Chamber mixer incident, not are even related. The only topic that has been reported as being mentioned during the incident was related to the project and the City Council and destruction.
5) The newspapers buy the defense story hook, line and sinker. It’s called “blame the victim.” It’s very popular and very effective.
It’s not blaming the victim to want to know why Glass’s name is a live link to heraldo’s site.
Heraldo said: “How exciting! Larry left the Humboldt Herald url in the comment form, adding to the great Humboldt blog mystery. Tongues are wagging.”
Then he said: “Larry didn’t email me the disclaimer, although he could have since my email address is available on my blog. Larry posted the disclaimer on a comment thread where Arkley’s email was being discussed.
The wordpress comment form asks for a name, email address and a website. None of these fields are required, but some people fill out some or all. Larry may have thought that he needed to enter my url for the comment to appear.”
Thus the great Humboldt blog mystery is as yet unsolved, and is a separate issue from the “Incident at Avalon.” Related, but separate.
If Glass is involved with heraldo’s anti-Arkley posts, or If Glass is heraldo, it brings up a whole ‘nuther set of questions.
how many billionaires are in jail now? ill bet not many….think he’ll still get to dress like Thurston Howell III(gilligin’s island) in jail?…….
rose? larry isnt allowed to be friends with heraldo? are you the “friend police”?………..take a deep breath and ask yourself why you feel the need to defend the act of bullying a CITY COUNCILMAN……..if you can question yourself that is….
It’s just that if there was harassment involved underhandedly you can see why Arkley is riled about the anti-Arkley stickers, etc. There may be more to the harassment then we know.
3:14
please elaborate….are you saying that it is ok to break the law and threaten a CITY COUNCILMAN because of an unrelated disagreement? ………….reread the post at 2:42, then post back here and tell me which points that you disagree with………..
Rose, a more plausible explanation was posted on SoHum Parlance. In short, it was another simple plan hatched by Anon.R. Easily executed.
If true, it means Nick Bravo wasn’t quite so crazy after all, people were indeed out to fake his identity and make him look bad.
And if not, hey, I would applaud Heraldo being Glass, but it wouldn’t change anything. It wouldn’t change the Chamber mixer incident. Don’t blame the victim. It’s repugnant.
Note how 3:14 ratchets up the spin, now calling Glass a harasser. Blame the victim. The drum beat goes on. Blame! Blame! Blame!
Arkley has taken himself down a slipper slope with his post-mixer handling. He should have sent an apology and left it at that. The more he pushes this in the media, the more entangled he gets. Know when to bite your lip!
A slipper slope? Sounds like fun. Do we slide down in our bathrobes?
Seriously, Eric: what is your prediction about the outcome of these charges? Give us some possibilities…
3:24 I have no issue with your points. My point is that is Larry has been using the HH blogsite to harass Arkley and instigate people against him. there could be more to the story that the public things we see. Specifically, I don’t know, but When a person is picked on and everything about them is spun out of control, whether it is true or not true at all, it starts to get to a person.
Are we having FUN yet?
Actually 5:29, you have no evidence that Larry has used this blog for anything. I don’t even think it was Larry who posted the privacy disclaimer, let alone has any other connection to this blog. In any case, posting the privacy verbiage does not remotely pertain to harassment. You are an assclown.
We know to take Heraldo’s Arkley rants with a grain of salt. You should too, and you should stop lying about Larry.
I want to find the Avalon and have a glass of vino with a subltle hint of polyvinylchloride!
Thanks, but I don’t need help observing and writing about Arkley’s antics.
No he hasn’t. Larry, to my knowledge, has left a total of two comments on this blog. One had nothing to do with Arkley. The other was left in relation to people questioning why he hasn’t released the post-shove email he got from Arkley.
A single comment consisting entirely of text sent to him does not constitute harassment of Arkley.
To recap, anyone can post a message under anyone else’s name on this blog. The privacy clause posted could be a stock disclaimer appended to SN e-mails and thus easily obtained. It’s a wingnut’s pipe dream to suggest Glass posted the disclaimer, and if he did, it doesn’t create a connection between him and Heraldo anymore than anyone else has a connection simply because they post comments on this blog.
And after all the wingnut’s FUD is said and done, we’re still talking about whether a city councilmember was pushed and threatened in view of other people in a public venue.
My mother taught me that hurting people is wrong. Stop hurting a Eureka city councilmember with lies.
I’m a believer.
arkley said that he would destroy glass……now arkley’s goons are hard at work doing it in plain view of you and I!……..GO LARRY!!!!
Assclown!!! Wow! The last person I heard mutter that word was six months shy of being old enough to get a Learner’s Permit at the DMV.
now arkley’s goons are hard at work doing it in plain view of you and I!
Please tell me how to spot the goons, so I can snicker at them.
-boy
Did you say Assclown? I’m here!
Look for someone attacking the victim. That’s an assclown.
boymstlikely2 must lead a sheltered life, or only hang around kids. Assclown is a cherished Internet insult, cherished long before kids discovered online porn.
Okay, let’s see.
Wouldn’t you know it? I’m Heraldo too!
Eric K must live a sheltered life.
Heraldo must live a sheltered life. (sorry guys)
Gawd, making assumptions online is FUN!!!
I simply making the statement pertaining to the last time I heard the name Assclown. Please do not take my comments as any serious input on this matter. Two grown fighting over a cheesepuff, one hiding behind his daughters and a PR team, and the other may be conspiring with the Author of this blog. I am sorry I can only be amused.
Save your venom for somebody who actually is here to insult people.
Quick, tell me what my favorite color is.
-boy
What was it they used to call us? Ericaldo?
the word “assclown” i beleive was most famously used in the classic movie “office space”…..it was referring to michael bolton the singer. i think the quote went like this ” and I even told those guys that i liked that no talent assclown michael bolton”
ow. that hurts.
for a minute there, I superimposed Eric and Heraldo. Very different flavas, both good but decidedly NOT the same. Knish versus tofu tamale.
Ditto Larry: he’s more of a carne asada.
Rose, a more plausible explanation was posted on SoHum Parlance. In short, it was another simple plan hatched by Anon.R. Easily executed.
Interesting scenario – except heraldo has the IP addresses from his counter – and his own responses do not indicate that is the case.
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rose, make an accusation or get a life…………you sound like a such a cheeleader……….your hatred towards others is only preceded by your hatred towards yourself……sad really
rose, you throw away law and order to defend a bully…………..you are a fake conservative if ive ever seen one……
Fucking OWNED….Assclown
Laugh my FUCKING ass OFF
see, I am not so afraid to expose my IP as apparently HeraldanaNOTSOanonymous is…
helardo, ananRmousy put a anti-heraldoville photo on his website….i guess that you are free to threaten to destroy him now..need any help?
gulo gordo: good.
You clown, theOTHER
wtF do you want Rose to show you..
Does she have to fucking spell it out for you?
Yo, spell out what?
Point is, if you click on my name, you get Heraldo’s website. All I had to do was enter the address in the box under “leave a reply.” So if I’m a novice and I see a box for “website,” I might think that it’s asking me to specify which website I want to post on.
End of mystery.
yo,
yes, i would like it spelled out very clearly…
yo,
traditionally accusations are laid out in a clear, concise form, with evidence to prove the charges………
Eric,
You are what H would call a “Jr. Sleuth”
Now what are we going to do?
-boy (kidding of course)
but of course you would….
Boy, Eric is not a Jr. Sleuth. In fact, he has explained the depth of the mystery.
yo,
if youve got something, lets hear it……if not, you are wasting everyones time….
Whaddya know? An anon morphed into theotherme over here. Well, getting a name is a start.
rose,
i prefer to stay anonymous, that way i have less fake conservatives threatening to DESTROY me……..
Rose said…
Hey! Mouseover my name! Now I’m Heraldo!
BTW, Rose did not write this. Just trying to show what BS that whole thing is.
Sun Sep 23, 07:41:00 PM
proof that rose is heraldo
rose,
you can have a search warrant served if finding out who i am is that important to you……the sad thing is, you know me in real life as a conservative “ally”…..not for long rose, you and the fake conservatives are spending all of your political capital on this one story…
FUCK you, other…
You assume, (incorrectly) that i am on one side of the political spectrum……
As If…
I value consistency
Go back, other, read what I have posted. It goes far beyond any political ideology….
I dont defend R.A…..
As opposed to you, OTHER, who attacks at any given opportunity…
but Yo, spell out what?
yo,
i assumed nothing about you……..focus like a laser beam now: remember, we were talking about rose’s claim that larry is heraldo….you said “does she have to spell it out?” i responded “yes”……….i am waiting for rose to tell me why it would not be proper for larry to be friends with heraldo…..where is the law that limits a CITY COUNCILMAN’s ability to talk to people or have blog sites? im waiting for an intelligible response
Boy, Eric is not a Jr. Sleuth. In fact, he has explained the depth of the mystery.
I hope you were laughing when you wrote this comment H. I would hate to think you took me seriously.
-boy (snickering)
yo,
now that ive reread the posts again, are you rose? you responded to the questions that i asked rose….if you are rose, thats fine, but if not, please refrain from answering questions that are aimed at others….very unbecoming
Whither the e-mail?
Larry said he received NO APOLOGY, and because he received no apology he felt more the victim, so he prosecuted.
Show us the e-mail and let us judge if Larry was telling the truth about his not having received an apology.
Yes, if Arkley apologized, it must have been because he was sorry for having done something. It is an admission he felt badly enough to send an apology the next day. The issue, though, is that Larry said it was because he received no apology that he decided to prosecute. He made the e-mail an issue. Apparently Arkley sent it to Larry’s council e-mail address, so he must have expected the intended recipient to use it, as the disclaimer allows.
The longer Larry puts off sharing the e-mail the worse he will look when we all see that Arkley apologized the next day.
BTW, you name callers sure have a hard time staying on the point. You’d have a lot more to talk about if it was related to an e-mail message shared by Larry, hmmmm?
too bad the email has a privacy disclaimer on it……….i think that arkleys PR guy cleared the way to show it though on KSLG………he should show it, i agree
But isn’t that just trying to change the subject? Sort of turning it around on Larry when it’s about somebody shoving and threatening him, and him an elected city council member and representative of The People and all?
autumn, that is true….im just a nosy person, thats why i wanna see it!….. lol…. so much of the story is public now, it seems like its destined to be shown. im sure it will all come out eventually……..by the way, the contents mean nothing to me. im more concerned about a CITY COUNCILMAN being threatened to vote in a certain way..
8:43 — It is the subject because Larry made it the subject. He took days to decide to prosecute, remember?
First he filed an incident report with EPD and he said he did so to make sure it was a public report. After a weekend away in Sacramento, Larry told the T/S that because he had not received an apology, he was going to prosecute the charge. That sequence suggests even Larry did not think it was such a big deal, until he decided that the lack of an apology was his stated reason for prosecuting. I did not make this up — it is Larry’s record on the matter.
You must see this for what it is. Larry has framed the issue, not I. He says he got no apology.
I think he is lying. I think he is lying because he refuses to share the e-mail sent to him the next day by Arkley. When we do see the apology letter it will show that Larry lied to us about these facts. He had first decided it was not such a big thing, but for political or other reasons he amped up his victim status and said that because he had not received an apology he would prosecute.
Larry made the e-mail an issue. I’d like to see it.
8:53…..the email is NOT the subject…nice try
Funny, at 8:49 theotherme wanted to see it too, but at 8:53, well, his/her mind got changed.
Inquiring minds want to see if Larry was telling the truth or not. Seems sort of relevant to me.
The apology for what it is or isn’t means nothing.
Arkley may have committed a crime against an elected official and it should be investigated. This has nothing to do with where Larry lives or what the apology says. Period.
Arkley’s going to prison.
Exactly. Arkley is on trial not Larry.
Arkley is not on trial in court yet. The Glass complaint is under investigation. But in the court of public opinon, Arkley is already on trial. In fact, he seems to have brought that on himself. He must be very confident.
Or very arrogant.
7:21, yeah, but it’s chaotic good for the most part.
8:53 IIRC, Larry decided to press charges after being at a League of Cities meeting, and after getting further feedback I’d assume from his constituents & supporters. What he said was that he’d realized he had to respond in light of the attack on him in his capacity as an elected public representative. Which is sound, I think; only he could stand up for everyone’s rights at that point.
As to the e-mail from Arkley, I don’t think Larry has ever characterized it as an apology. Arkley’s spokespeople have, but they have not released the statement. IMHO, Eric’s wrong, and Heraldo’s right; if Arkley made an actual apology, he would’ve released it, because it would have taken some of the poison out of the wound.
But it wasn’t, and he hasn’t, and now the butt-bozos are making a big stink about Larry, and now H, because it’s a hell of a lot more fun for them than talking about how that noble philanthropist, upstanding father, and community-minded guy they all want to line up behind is a foaming jerk to people who dare to oppose his short-sighted, hard-right, corporatist agenda.
What a towering, stupefying, revelatory surprise: contemporary American reactionaries practice the politics of projection. It’s their first impulse almost always. It’s there in the Southern Strategy, the hysteria over “illegals” and the War On Other Peoples’ Political Violence, in the attempt to end abortion rights and the effort to prevent gay marriage. It’s what they are: terrified of the monster they see in the mirror. And you can be sure, as the political Jonestown of the 2008 presidential winds down, they’ll have engraved on the tomb of modern conservatism the final slander; “the libruls done it.” So of course, when there’s a problem over one of their big guys getting a little too public with his strongarm technique, they’re gonna go with explaining how the guy had it coming. Obviously he’s an asshole if he won’t release the non-apology we told him not to forward, right?
Arkley ought to cut his losses, fire his PR guys, close down the whole Marina Center project, and use what’s left of that money to go buy a piece of Paraguay like the other proto-fascists, ’cause I don’t think Humboldt is ever gonna roll over for him again after this. At least at this point he can still blame the enviros. Pretty soon won’t be no-one to blame except the aggro-eggplant himself.
Until Hillary gets elected, of course. Then we’re going to see projection to make IMAX look like your dad’s old Super8 on a bedsheet.
fershlugginer tag. sorry.
/rant.
Or, perhaps, he was apologetic.
You naysayers give him no credit for the fact that he apologized the next day. And Larry is hiding that fact from you.
You can’t handle the truth because if you did, you would have to consider the prospect that Arkley is more reasonable than you would want to believe. He did something he was sorry for and he apologized the next day, in writing, to the person he owed an apology to, knowing that the written apology in e-mail form, would some day reach public eyes.
Your envious diatribes, and hypebolic attacks show has small you are. Arkley is not going to go to prison.
Have you ever been in such a situation and had someone apologize? Never? Most of us have, and it is a measure of one’s humanity to accept an offer of apology, and move on. Larry has said that he received no apology. We’ll see about that. If he did, and was lying to us, that is relevant.
The fact that these people at the function ‘didn’t see anything’ speaks volumes about the kind of people present. You’re telling me nobody at least glanced over to see what was going on? Please. The only confrontation that might be bigger is one where Bonnie meets Nancy by the carving station.
yeah, that’s it. Rob’s actually quite reasonable.
He just hires other people to talk for him because he hates hearing his own voice come out of the TV set.
Nice rant, dude, but you got to learn to close those tags. I fixed it for you. But only because you agree with me.
Check out the topic in CC co:
Mr. Glazer on Contra Costa blogs
Didn’t take much to stir up a little interest down there. I’ll take credit thank you.
Ah, but there is two sides to every story. If Larry lied about the apology, then his credibly suffers. If he is not credible, then why should we believe the incident is as bad as Larry says?
Why, if Larry posted the disclaimer, why only here? Why is it so bad to reveal the whole email, if part of it, was reviled? It has been said, that Glass could reveal the whole thing, so why doesn’t he do it?
As far as law goes, the apology doesn’t mean much, if anything. To me, it means possibly two things. Arkley may of tried to Apologize, and Glass may of lied, that he didn’t get it.
This is the thread about the disclaimer, so why isn’t this about what the apology says. It’s all part of the same email.
I’m glad it is being investigated, then the truth should be known. After the results come out then I can judge what exactly happened. Too many stories, to properly judge.
an apology is an admission of guilt, i hope that larry did receive one….
Cap… go to bed.
Steve Glazer was ridiculous to say Arkley assumed Larry would release the email when the email contained a privacy disclaimer.
Is Larry supposed to be a mind reader? Is he supposed to think Akley doesn’t mean what he says? Was he supposed to assume the threat of “I will destroy you” meant something else?
Arkley appears to be one convoluted SOB. No wonder he hired a spokesperson. He doesn’t even know what he’s saying.
rob arkley is not used to people calling him on his actions…..he doenst know what to say….he is so used to getting his own way, that all he can show is frustration and hate when confronted with dissenting views……..im glad that this issue has been pushed into the public eye
still up
Enzyte? Or Viagra?
Rose just got slammed (So to speak) on SoHum Parlance.
Cute one.
Hmmm.. better than being SLIMED by S. Lewis don’t ya think?
Hank and Kevin are mysteriously absent from these epic Arkley discussions. Care to weigh in?
Hey Heraldo, when you posted as Larry, you forgot your avatar, oops!
I guess Anon.R.Rose missed that….
(Late to the Blogtroversy)
Why is everybody debating the contents of an apology only two or maybe a handful of people have read?
Pardon me – e-mail. I realize that the “apology” status is disputed.
Why is everybody debating the contents of an /email/ only two or maybe a handful of people have read?
…this has been another edition of Questions Previously Answered
Hoover has weighed in over at Carol & Greg’s under the post with the Arkley/Glass poll.
You would think Rose who have more to say about this, what with her husband’s reputation and all.
who is ros’s hubby?
update on the glass/arkley poll:
50 people believe LARRY GLASS
6 “people” believe rob snarkley
“who is rose’s hubby?”
Stephen Lewis
Gee,
Nice personal attacks there fellas…
And all this on a thread dedicated to decrying the assault on Rob Arkley…
Just looking at the poll
43 voted they believe larry glass
0 voted they were there
8 voted probably, but so
6 voted no way
51-6,sorry
yo,
youve got it all wrong…the assaul was on LARRY GLASS, remember?
Rose doesn’t have a hubby, she’s sworn a vow of chastity until Humboldt is free from the tyranny of Gallegos..
omg,
ME…..LOL I guess Rob’s PR really IS working…
Anyway, my point is still the same, just that a thread that is decrying an assaulT on LARRY, there are dirtheads like robash who do nothing to add to the conversation except to assault Rose.
That’s Boris, not Rocky the Squirrel. What did you expect?
Excuses for a closed mind are the most pathetic.
I’m sure Arkley is scared now that, at least in your mind, 51 out of now 58 people have voted for believing Larry Glass. Besides, the poll wasn’t about if people believed one or the other, but if they believed Arkley threatened Glass.
So only the 1st item was about that people thought glass was threatened, and they believe Larry Glass. 2nd one, no one has even used. Does this mean we need an option, of “No, I was there, and nothing happened?”, or “No, I was there, and it was just two idiots.”
The 3rd was that people thought Arkley MIGHT of been threatened,but thought so what. Maybe these people thought it was ok, for Arkley to be threatened. Maybe they thought Larry was threatened just by Arkley’s reputation, but didn’t necessarily believe Larry’s account. Maybe they thought there was more important things than to worry about this incident now. I suspect the last statement.
The problem with the poll is it was portly worded, and didn’t give a full range of values.
The main problem with your statement is your bias is coloring your view.
58 people have voted, that doesn’t give a good representation of The people on the blogs, let alone of Eureka, or the 100,000+ people of Humboldt County. What may of be the most telling, is the amount of people who haven’t voted.
I posted my own poll, with I hope is fairer. I have tried to keep my bias out of it. It will still be limited by the population polled. Nothing I can do about that. New poll on arkley/glass incident
I posted my own poll, width I hope is fairyer. I failed to keep my bias out of it. It will still be limited by the population polled. Nothing I can do about that. New poll on arkley/glass
And Yet Another New poll on arkley/glass incident
What a silly poll. I’m unsure whether you’re attempting to be funny, or you’re just dim.
Gee thanks.
Which is it? Are you being funny, or…?
Thanks Hd.
I think it’s a perfectly reasonable poll.
or…
There seem to be a lot of people named Larry awake early in the morning. Maybe you should have incorporated a last name into your highly scientific poll.
To repeat Carol: “Imitation is the highest form of flattery.”
Heraldo, which is a perfectly reasonable poll?
Mine had the last names at the top.
1 the investigator’s report reveals a couple of minor blemishes in Glass’ background
2 the report is delivered to Glass
3 Glass would prefer not to be publicly embarassed by the reports release
4 an offer is made to permanently seal the report if Glass agrees to drop all charges and support the Marina Center
5 this offer is accompanied by an undisclosed cash settlement
6 all charges are dropped
It could happen.
Canned dog good could fly out of my butt, too.
I favor this poll. Especially since 76% of respondents claim to know the shove occured because they are Larry.
The poll doesn’t specify a shove. It uses the vague term “threatened,” which is another reason the poll is poorly constructed.
of course you would. You love the game of being biased.
ah, but did a shove occur? It was reported on another blog, by someone who was there, that they over heard a heated argument, and rob had his hand on larry. This was by someone who consider themselves a friend of larry.
I love the game of being biased? Huh? I’m only asking you to construct a proper poll. If you don’t know how to be impartial, just say so.
Did a shove occur? Good question. You didn’t ask that in the poll.
Poor Capd… it’s lonely on his blog.
Sorry, I didn’t see where you asked for me to construct a proper poll. I was very sincere when I said I hoped that I had kept my bias out of it. So since your all knowing. Where is the bias in my poll? I don’t view the poll you linked to as being unbiased.
arkley letter to glass released to newspapers
Lonely how? Nah, about what I expected.
What do you know. Cap solved the (non) mystery of who posted the disclaimer on the Humboldt Herald under Larry Glass’s name.
Told ya.
Remains to be seen now.
Unless you’re a true believer, that is.
Up to 26 votes… slam dunk on Capd
It isn’t a slam dunk on me, for Glass I’ll say, and live with. Your icon fits your child-like behavior. Even more humorous, is Larry Glass is the one who was pushed. Are you calling Larry Glass a baby by having the icon of the baby? Which side are you on anyway? LOL
Now that there is many polls with choices, basically for glass, I can live with it. However, none of the polls have a good enough votes to be a representative anything. My only point was the original poll was biased, it needed more choices.
None of you can tell me how my poll was biased?
Here’s the only unbiased poll for this business, an either/or:
I believe Larry Glass was shoved by Rob Arkley.
I believe Rob Arkley did not shove Larry Glass.
Of course polls don’t mean doodleysquat for this kind of thing unless you asked the exact same poll questions over a series of months to detect changing opinions. It’s a great topic for blogging, as long as people remember that it is the official investigation of this incident that will determine the reality, and not some blogger’s well-turned phrase.
It’s a political scene that would be impossible to cleanse of personal bias. People are not objective, which is why an opinion is just an opinion. No issue here. Pass the popcorn.
Hey, it’s gonna hit 200 comments!
Not bad for a post on a boilerplate e-mail disclaimer. I must get a hobby.
I just finally got around to reading this thread. Rob-pushed-me is very funny and so are some of the other names, too. I really laughed heartily this morning. Thanks!
Capdiamont, for some reason I am unable to write a comment on your blog this morning. I tried twice. We noticed last night that both of our polls could not be viewed, but instead the ‘create your own poll’ came up on the screen. This was around 9:45 PM. This morning both polls are back up.
The results as of this morning, 75 votes:
57 – yes, I believe Larry
0 – yes I was there and heard it
10 – probably, but so?
8 – no way
This is not a scientific poll. Just a blog poll.
Dang gum, wordpress thought both of your comments were spam. Marked them as not spam. It has been doing that a lot.
wordpress has been doing that to me, too. This past week or two it’s been particularly picky.
Thanks. makes me wonder if the calls that you were censoring, were either that the comment was marked as spam, or maintenance.
Yeah, I have run across a few hick-ups posting to your sites also.
“hick-up”
200 comments, Congrats Heraldo, you get a set of Steak Knives!
I have started to use this disclaimer on all of my e-mails.
-boy
The DA and the Attorney General agree. No charges will be filed.
Now Glass can go back to selling used records (someone else’s creativity) where he belongs.
glass stopped selling records since the shove? i dont think so……