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A replay of Friday’s Code Enforcement Task Force meeting is playing now on 10.
There’s a M*A*S*H* special reunion on 48. Hearfelt comments from all of the cast about the sadness of war and the impact the show had on them, as well as the comic relief it imparted on the audience.
What’s up with “The Humboldt Crud?” Is it a coincidence that the initials are THC? And people always say they have “The” Humboldt Crud or “The Crud.”
The comment counter isn’t counting on this thread. Is that intentional?
I just realized there are 2 quick notes threads. Reposting here.
McCain Suggests Adopting Iraq Tactics to Tackle Urban Crime
Senator John McCain has suggested adopting tactics used in Iraq to combat urban crime here at home. McCain made the comment while he spoke before the National Urban League.
Sen. John McCain: “And some of those tactics, very frankly—you mention the war in Iraq—are somewhat like that we use in the military. You go into neighborhoods, you clamp down, you provide a secure environment for the people that live there, and you make sure that the known criminals are kept under control. And you provide them with a stable environment, and then they cooperate with law enforcement.”
From Barbara Boerger, KHSU CAG Chairperson
The only “growing understanding” appears to be in Rob’s brain, perhaps in the form of a malignant tumor – methaphorical or otherwise.
While it is true that many of us on CAG HAVE been wroking on fundraising, underwriting, and outreach, I was completely insulted by
the manner in which this was presented to us. I felt it was a slap in the face of all the work we had done, and a blatant effort to shut us up.
I apolgixe for my silence over the weekend, not having a home computer at the moment is hampering my communications.
============
Barbara, et.al.,
There were at least two CAG meetings where we discussed the role of the group at length. We discussed changing the name to “Community Action Group” to emphasize the primary role of outreach and fundraising. I very clearly stated that personnel issues were not a part of the CAG’s scope of input.
I also stated that issues of programming were better addressed through careful review of ratings, market research, competition analysis, member and underwriter consultation, etc. I acknowledged and continue to acknowledge
and be grateful for the work of CAG toward the purposes of fundraising, increasing underwriting, and general promotion of the station. In those
meetings I emphasized the primacy of these outreach activities for the CAG.
At each meeting, some members spoke in affirmation of this direction and some spoke against it. I addressed these issues forthrightly, openly, and in person with the CAG.
Rob
Robert Gunsalus
Vice President for Advancement
Humboldt State University
Arcata, California 95521
707.826.5101
Outreach and fundraising the focus of an ADVISORY group? Nice. Fire the schmuck now before we lose our radio station. And Richmond too for hiring him.
this is yet more evidence that gunsalas’ vision for khsu is for the administration to control the content and for us to shut up and pay.
i remember how for years khsu has played an announcement about how khsu’s community advisory group was looking for more members. i can’t remember the exact wording, but it certainly gave the impression that the community advisory group was more than just a glorified (and misnamed) fundraising organ.
if anyone (like a current or former staffer, or c.a.g. member) has the transcript of that announcement, please post it here.
the bottom line is that the university’s administration, in the persons of gunsalas and richmond, are trying to increase their control over the content, management, financial resources and overall direction of the radio station while at the same time cutting it’s already-dwindling funding from the university.
to put it another way, they want the community to shut up, and at the same time pony up all the dough, while the burneaucrats try to blandify the station. this is a disaster in the making.
it’s time to withhold our contributions until this crisis is resolved.
and the smug functionary gunsalas needs to go. yesterday would have been a good time to fire him, but we’ll settle for today or tomorrow.
but no $ until then.
Do you recommend we ask for our donations back?
The CAG radio blurb is directly from the Bylaws of that group.
From the Bylaws (revision date 2005)
” As a link with the listening community, the CAG provides KHSU/KHSR management with advice, information, and feedback on such matters as programming, community outreach, budget, and planning, hiring and organizational structure, service area, and promotion and fund-raising. Station management agrees to initiate meaningful and timely consultation with the CAG on topics of potential interest to community stakeholders. The CAG serves in an advisory capacity, while final decisions are the responsibility of the KHSU/KHSR management team. “
so, gunsalas wants the community advisory group to just shut up and raise money, but the actual purpose of the advisory group, according to the bylaws under which the group operates, is to provide advice and feedback on all kinds of issues, including programming and funding, not just to raise money.
but gunsalas and richmond don’t want advice or feedback, they have already decided that the station must be more tightly controlled and made blander so that hard-hitting investigative shows like democracy now (shows that make the neoconservative gonsalas’ “blood boil”) won’t trouble us with the inconvenient facts of what the iraq war is really like, rather than the happy fictions emanating from behind the thick walls of the green zone.
and even as gunsalas and richmond are seeking to blandify the programming, muzzle the community advisory group, and take control of khsu’s donor list, financial reserves and incoming pledges – at the same time they are drastically decreasing the university’s funding of the station.
so the gunsalas-richmond model for khsu is:
(1) richmond and gunsalas decide what we get to hear.
(2) the community advisory group gets to shut up and raise more money.
(3) we the listeners get to shut up and pay more to listen to what richmond and gunsalas want us to hear.
great work guys. i’m sure the community will be just delighted with your approach.
A democratic approach doesn’t seem to be part of HSU’s vocabulary. Odd for an institution of higher learning. Too bad for all of us who want more that milk toast for breakfast. we are being forced to eat blandville every time we tune in hoping to get real perspective. Even the BBC is struggling with this issue. Control their minds is the order of the day and keep control. What a bunch of bull crap.
Sink your teeth into Stephanie Miller and Thom Hartmann in the morning on 1480 am. They won’t even ask you for money!
I used to read Thom Hartmann all the time at Common Dreams. I don’t know what he looks like, but I’m in love with his mind. I know, you guys don’t care what Stephanie Miller looks like either, its her brain that counts. :P
That damned “liberal” media is at it again:
Read “Why McCain May Well Win”
By Robert Parry
August 6, 2008
consortiumnews.org
Ralph Nader has been selected as the presidential candidate of the California Peace and Freedom Party.
I will vote for Nader unless I really believe that there is a chance that McCain may take California, in which case I will vote Obama.
Nothing against Cynthia McKinney, but Nader has consistently supported the same ideas as I have over the last few years.
I also support Carol Wolman, the Green Party candidate for Congress, and I support George Clark and Linda Atkins for Eureka City Council, unless something changes.
So my picks are a mix of Peace & Freedom, Green, and Democratic.
have a peaceful day,
Bill
I’m with ya’ Bill. Just switch Cynthia McKinney for Ralph Nader and I’m in.
Ok, Heraldo…what’s up with this???
http://www.workinretail.com/company/wal-mart-field-operations/CA/Page/2/Date/kc11k963x90htrnw72k.aspx
Wal-Mart in coming to Eureka? Someone told me they bought property in the Cooper Gulch Area??
People who throw away their votes on candidates without a chance to win are helping the GOP. Here’s a clue. If your party can’t get anyone elected to state office, they don’t stand a chance at the national level. Grabbing your marbles and throwing them away because you don’t like everyone playing the game serves no purpose but to spoil the game. Join the major party closest to your ideals and then work to make it more like your ideals. The upcoming election is vitally important for the future of this country because of the SCOTUS appointments that will undoubtedly be made by the next president which will chart the course for many years. Another Scalia on the bench will end democracy as we know and love it.
Be sure to read Blow’s column in the NYT today. Racism and the Race. Thought provoking. oh noooooo!
anon: what a bogus way to run an election! Major parties are only 2 and lately they look the same! It’s a broken system that needs to start over. Tear it down and rebuild is what we need! We shouldn’t be forced to choose the lessor of two evils or closest to our ideals, no we should be represented by a party that meets our ideals!
You can’t be represented by someone who can’t get enough votes to be elected. Throw your votes away and then bitch when the worst evil gets elected. At least you will be guaranteed to never feel personally responsible and will always have good excuses for why we no longer have any freedom. Fucking brilliant!
You know what’s really f***ed is that this present regime stole the election then made a war that patriotic folks felt they needed to protect the US by not voting against the pres in time of war to stay his allotted 8 years. What’s next, martial law so he stays in power even longer? the system is not working, hello!
Quick Notes; how’s it goin? Nice and tidy, is there a danger of neurosis? Somehow it sounds like segregation…..
It’s (Just About) Official: All Current Humboldt County Tree-Sits Are Saved
read all about it here >>
Great Bay Stewards forum tonight on the development. I counted 100+ in attendance. Shannon Tracey’s presentation on the history of corporations and private/public partnerships was worth it alone.
Just doing an experiment here to see if I am making a link. Pay me no mind…
It worked!!
I had this “Big Tent” discussion recently with a local Democratic Party big wig.
She wanted to know why I wasn’t a Democrat, since we are obviously simpatico on health care, the war, abortion, et cet.
I pointed out to her that her party – the Democratic Party- is in favor of keeping marijuana illegal. I am in favor of legalizing it. I will not join or support a party that wants to throw me in jail over a plant.
There are at least 20% of the population that uses the herb often. What about our rights? Don’t we have rights just like gay people, women, black people and all the other Democratic constituencies? I guess not, since everytime I advocate legalization I run into Democrats who are opposed.
This is just ONE thing…..another thing is the complete collapse of the Democratic Party (nationally) as an opposition party to the fascist neocon Republicans.
So my tent may be a pup tent, not a “big tent” but at least I don’t have to share it with people who want to imprison me.
have a peaceful day,
Bill
You aren’t a very good advocate for legalization, Bill. Your elevation of pot legalization to your primary political goal is indicative of addiction and makes thinking people wary of legalizing something that could take such hold on an apparently intelligent person as yourself.
Who said legalization is my primary goal?
It is important to me. I also work to end the war, impeach the war criminals, provide adequate health care to all, and end the war on the poor.
Marijuana is not addictive. Get over it and stop slandering me.
have a peaceful day,
Bill
Okay, I take back the “apparently intelligent” part. My mistake.
I hear the Chief Forester for the new Humboldt Redwood Company went out and met with the treesitters (at least some of them), brought them a copy of the company old-growth policy (link below), and informed them that HRC wouldn’t be cutting those trees (or other old growth covered by their policy). Assuming that’s accurate, that’s pretty cool.
Maybe the best news site in Humboldt could look into this a little…
http://mrc.com/issues/old_growth_policy.html
Humboldt Redwoods is apparently going to apply the same policy.
See here.
H.
How about discussing the Forest Practice Committee’s recommendation to allow subdividing TPZ land and allowing additional houses on each subdivided parcel? Reported in this week’s McKinleyville Press.
As I calculate, it would allow at least 8 times more development on TPZ land than what’s currently permitted. So that means more roads, grading, habitat breakup, and illegal structures. The committee is made up of professional foresters and gives input to the planning commission. The recommendation requires a joint timber harvest plan that some forester will conduct, so that’s a clear conflict of interest. And the impracticality of getting multiple owners to agree how to implement a plan and fewer economies of scale would likely reduce the amount of sustainable harvest and increase the cost of lumber.
This recommendation sounds little different from the former Palco plan to subdivide and develop their logged over property, except it would attract people who grow marijuana instead of golfers.
Hey, why don’t one of you enviros explain why the Klamath has the best salmon run in 30 years? Is that dam still up or what?
All three of the city council candidates that showed at the Green Party General Assembly last night in Arcata said they are in favor of medical marijuana dispensaries in Eureka. Frank Jager, George Clark and Linda Atkins all said “yes.”
O-H’s Steak House and Artic Circle would make admirable pot shops, and there are lots of other vacancies around town.
have a peaceful day,
Bill
bill@eurekaworkers.org
Oh, its like a bulletin board or message center…..to the obsessive negatives here who slander and muckrake peoples reputations that have differing opinions; your behavior is that of addiction to excitement and drama, you might be watching too much TMZ.
Pot. Kettle. Black. Although I suppose you draw an exception because you can’t technically slander anonymous people.
What about the slander of that guy who picks up tons of garbage on the Eel River? He was libeled (slander is spoken) on this blog by name by the person who is calling others obsessive negatives here who slander and muckrake.
I decided to do you a favor, Heraldo, and work up a family tree for you. It’s a hobby of mine. Then I realized I don’t know your family name. Heraldo? What should I do now?
no, I’m not slandering John Casali, I’m telling the truth about him, he blames homeless people for doing what he makes a living at cleaning up, this man has targeted a whole group of people and is making a reputation for himself while destroying peoples lives, that is not the same as insulting people for having different points of view….you might want to study addictions before you point them out to others, just a suggestion.
In light of our ongoing national political festivities, I want to send along the words of a delightfully-insightful song. Hard to believe only fifty years have passed, and still so much is true of our dear, 7%-approval rate Congress. Here goes:
THE COUNTRY’S IN THE VERY BEST OF HANDS
From the Musical “Lil’ Abner” (1956)
(Gene de Paul / Johnny Mercer)
Recorded by: Percy Faith; Shelly Manne;
Peter Palmer; André Previn.
Them city folks and we-uns are pretty much alike,
Though they ain’t used to living in the sticks.
We don’t like stone or cement, but we is in agreement
When we gets down to talkin’ politics:
The country’s in the very best of hands,
the best of hands, the best of hands.
[Note: the above two lines are interspersed among
all the verses and wherever else needed.]
The Treasury says the national debt is climbing to the sky
And government expenditures have never been so high.
It makes a feller get a gleam of pride within his eye,
to see how our economy expands,
The country’s in the very best of hands.
You ought to see the congress when it’s drawing up a bill,
“Where as”‘s and “to wit”‘s are crowded in each codicil.
Such legal terminology would give your heart a thrill.
There’s phrases there that no one understands.
The country’s in the very best of hands.
The building boom, they say, is getting bigger every day.
And when I asked a feller “How could everybody pay?”
He come up with an answer that made everything OK,
“Supplies are getting bigger than demands.”
The country’s in the very best of hands.
Don’t you believe them congressmen and senators are dumb.
When they run into problems that are tough to overcome,
They just declare a thing they calls a moratorium.
The upper and the lower house disbands.
The country’s in the very best of hands.
The voters are connected to the nominee,
the nominee’s connected to the treasury.
When they ain’t connected to the treasury,
They sits around on their thigh bones.
They sits around in this place they got,
This big congressional parking lot.
Just sits around on their you know what.
Up there they call them their thigh bones.
Them bones, them bones gonna rise again,
Gonna exercise a franchise again,
Gonna tax us up to our eyes again,
If we gets them off of their thigh bones.
The farm bill should be 89 percent of parity,
Another feller recommends it should be 93.
But 80, 95 percent, who cares about degree?
It’s parity that no one understands.
The country’s in the very best of hands.
Them GOP’s and Democrats each hates the other one.
They’s always criticizing how the country should be run.
But neither tells the public what the other’s gone and done.
As long as no one knows where no one stands,
The country’s in the very best of hands.
They sits around in this place they’re at,
Where folks in congress have always sat.
Just sits around on their excess fat,
Up there they call them their thigh bones.
They sits around ’til they start to snore,
Jumps up and hollers “I has the floor!”
Then sits right down where they sat before,
Up there they call them their thigh bones.
Them bones, them bones gonna rise again
So dignified and so wise again
While the budget doubles in size again,
If we gets them off of their thigh bones.
The money that they taxes us, that’s known as revenues,
They compound up collaterals, subtracts the residues.
Don’t worry ’bout the principle and interest that accrues,
They’re shipping all that stuff to foreign lands,
The country’s in the very best of hands.
(Transcribed by Carlene Bogle – 2002)
(Corrections by Robert Dickman – December 2007)
No word on the salmon run?
Think Marijuana kills no one?
Check out the AP News story entitled “Police Make Arrest in 1985 Slaying of Boy” By MICHAEL RUBINKAM, AP
SCHUYLKILL HAVEN, Pa. (Aug. 21) – Police arrested a man Thursday in the 1985 killing of a 13-year-old boy whose body was found months after he left home on a bicycle. The fatal beating was apparently sparked by an argument over stolen marijuana plants, authorities said…
Kids have been killed for their expensive sports shoes too. Did the shoes kill them?
Since May many people concerned with a crusade that has been headed by a notable member of Humboldt citizenry to run all homeless people out of the woods and off the streets of Humboldt Co. have been documenting raids, encounters with business and property owners, police, etc. A lawsuit has been filed and there are more sure to come in the near future. 20 years of this insanity is enough! Fresno lost 2+million dollars because they would not listen to advocates who were telling them that criminalizing homelessness is against the law of the land. It is inevitable that a campground will need to be established, maybe even 2 or 3 or more. It’s time to get serious and quit with the rationalizing, people need a place to sleep. it is a human right!
anon 8/20 11:50….brilliant!
Who filed the lawsuit, and against whom? Do you have a copy?
Ask Arcata
What does that mean? Do you have a case number? Is the City of Arcata a defendant?
No case number, yes Arcata is the defendent and PEOPLE PROJECT filed. Sorry for being evasive, but some folks might not be happy with this information, but it is public and the more people who know of it the better I think, but I know there will be people who think I’m jumping the gun here and I’m gonna hear about it….oh well….life is hard.
Ah, Kim Starr vs. Arcata, the sequel.
You know Ms. Starr is not the only one with People Project which is fashioned somewhat like Food Not Bombs. To judge this group by whatever it is that is known about her is an error. She is the most visible and vocal, but the project is much bigger than her.
Ok, but someone has to the Plaintiff. If “People Project” is the plaintiff, who is People Project?
What are they hoping to get out of the suit?
salmon anyone?
There is a group of people as claimants. Now this is not from the horses mouth but from what I can gather this is the beginning of bringing Arcata to terms with their abuses to homeless people. The spotlight will be placed on activities the city has been involved in to criminalize homelessness. National attention has been received due to code enforcement violations, etc. and it’s become evident that civil rights, human rights and constitutional law has been broken, to what degree is what will be decided. Remedy would be reform of city policies toward homeless people.
I predict the exact opposite. National attention will be shed on Arcata for its innovative tough love and helps cure homelessness within city borders.
Arcata has only followed all the other tough love programs across the country that hasn’t worked. There is nothin innovative about Arcata anymore, they sold out to the bougeois. The city of Arcata has not cured homelessness, hasn’t reduced the numbers either. Hostility has grown and violence also.
No, big news, it’s working in Arcata and national news will here to applaud is before the year is out.
If it is working in Arcata then they are just exporting the “problem” to their neigbhor communities.
have a peaceful day,
Bill
Are you saying that there is nothing perceivably wrong with Arcata because it is just like everywhere else? But I try to stand with those who know what is right and what is wrong and live honestly.
I’m saying you’re wrong about Arcata.
The news just broke. Obama lost the November election. Obama made the November results final this evening when he announced Joe Biden will be his running mate.
Biden, the most prominent of all the egotistical blowhards in the United States Senate, will soon wreck the Obama campaign.
As a blogger wrote this evening in another venue:
“Have you ever watched a Senate Judiciary proceeding? Biden takes 17 minutes to ask a question with the first 16 and a half minutes spent bloviating about himself.”
He’s as old and white as McCain, but looks healthier. Win for Obama.
I think you’re all missing the point. Personalities and maneuvers don’t matter in American politics. . . money does. The money tells Fox and the other networks what to put out, and the 33% faithful act on it. Another 33 percent are confused and mindf-ed into agreeing, and any other doubt is eliminated by vote-rigging. Pelosi, Feinstein and Thompson realize this and they, and 95 percent of elected officials, make millions going along. In Hillary and Bill’s case, $109 million was not enough.
Look at the last eight years, people. Have the progressives won ANYTHING? People are SAYING we shouldn’t kill a million Iraqis to take their oil, but they’re still doing it. People are SAYING torture and rendition are wrong, but they’re still doing it. People are saying domestic spying is wrong, and they’re still doing it.
Obama is trying to move to the right to placate the Money, but Cheney, O’Reilly and Rush don’t make deals. It’ll be McBush in November regardless of who Obama picks. Then he’ll finish “fixing” the courts, and the dream of democracy will be erased for good. “Private contractors” will patrol the streets and the internet, the people will get more soma (but less food and healthcare), and Exxon and Halliburton will get more trillions.
The fix is already in.
Vote Nader (my choice) or vote McKinney.
Biden is the senator from DuPont. He is a lobbyist for the plutocracy (the very very richest.)
“Change” has now become an Orwellian word too.
have a peaceful day,
Bill
Didn’t McKinney recently punch out a Capitol guard for failing to recognize her after she dramatically changed her hair-do?
Yup, that sounds like Presidential material.
Walt, I couldn’t agree with you more, the way I see it we common folks must figure out how to take care of ourselves without the government because we don’t mean anything to them but as slaves. In the coming 6 months we are going to know exactly what we’ll need to do but for right now I’m boning up on living a simple self-sufficient lifestyle.
What ever happend to Ron Paul?
2 men were arrested in Denver for an assasination plot against Obama. The first guy was caught during a routine traffic stop and weapons of some sort were seen. His accomplice was arrested at the motel when he jumped out the window in an attempt to escape. They are believed to be tied to a white power group.
Peace and support to Greg Jenning’s family, the man killed when struck by an automobile on 299.
Here’s a new one to ponder: Why the ‘abovethelaw’ blog site has quietly started up again, albeit without the one-sided and screened comments section. It’s not like the city hasn’t spoken. The public is happy with the current state of affairs at EPD. Those who could move on, have. Those on the fence apparently found reasons to stay. Those who wanted to move on but couldn’t find a place that would take them are realizing they get a steady paycheck and life ain’t so bad. And we can’t help but wonder why this coincides with a certain person starting back at EPD after a long (ok, not long enough) absence. No more unfounded complaints to file? Maybe the DA would let you join his bandwagon. But just remember, internet anonymity cuts both ways. We hope you and your fellow stone throwers don’t live in glass houses.
Angry Joe Biden wants you to listen to him talk. And talk and talk. Angry Joe Biden wants you to give up your guns and get some hair plugs like the ones he has. You’ll be happier with the hair plugs. He is going to be Vice President. Angry Joe wants you to get used to that idea. Angry Joe Biden and St. Obama are going to make rich people in America wish they had never been born. Lots of other people are going to feel that way, too, I betcha.
If and when Obama does make it into office, I don’t see how the
poor SOB is going to stay alive. There are so many prejudice people
out there.
Is Obama getting secret protection from the Fruit of Islam? you know the Nation of Islam’s armed thug army.
Obama’s angry and strident acceptance speech is being proclaimed a masterpiece tonight by the MSM that has been pushing Obama at us all along.
“Angry and strident acceptance speech”????
Are you saying that young black man is uppity?
Yer a dope.
Ghost, you are a presumptuous bung hole.
Look in the mirror. You will be face to face with a racist.
Sucks to be you. “Anonymous”….that’s sooo brave!!!!!
The ER reported today that one of the companies involved in the lawsuit against measure T actually violated it. Thats kind of ironic isn’t it. The company breaks the law and then wants to sue for it to be overturned.
What bs.
Calling other people racist based on nothing is becoming very popular. And just like what happened in the story of the boy who cried Wolf!, the meaning is quickly draining out of the word.
If you respect human dignity, Ghost, stop using the word racist so freely and so incorrectly.
To us nonracists, Obama’s speech was thrilling and uplifting. It’s all in the eye of the beholder.
Empty promises, lapped up by empty minds.
Rather than putting down Obama, why don’t you tell us what is so great about McCain’s promises? Do you know what they are?
Calling other people “bung-hole” based on nothing is becoming very popular…….
If you respect human dignity Anonymous, stop using the word “bung-hole” so freely and so incorrectly.
….and be careful or the Nation of Islam will send the feared Fruit of the Loom after you!!!!
It’s difficult for some people to understand that their impressions are colored by their prejudices. A non-racist person can see a young black man walking down the street and think he looks worried, another person, who may not even be aware of their subconscious racism, might think he looks threatening. Obama to me sounded passionate and energized, but to Anonymous up there he sounded angry and strident. Same man, same speech, different perceptions due to our own prejudices that have nothing to do with Obama.
Funny though, his hateful perceptions of Obama fit the neocon smear campaign to a T.
Yes, well they believe the “noble lie” is justified to achieve their global domination agenda. It’s disturbing how many are blind to similarities between neocons and fascists. At least I hope they are blind to it and not eagerly awaiting The New World Order and everything that will entail.
Everybody is a racist but you. You are merely a fool. I, thankfully, am neither.
perhaps you are arrogant?
I am not arrogant. I am defending myself against a scurrilous charge of racism.
Anon,
“Thou protests too much”.
-Shakespeare-
AMY GOODMAN AND 2 DEMOCRACY NOW! JOURNALISTS ARRESTED AT RNC!
Hilarious! Amy Goodman/Badwoman arrested at GOP convention!!!
Oh. My. God.
Karma’s a bitch!!!
Here’s a new one for the morning that I have not had time to research yet….the windows at the local recruiting offices (in Victoria Place in Eureka next to Bayshore Mall) are ALL boarded up! A sign of vandalism?
I wish it meant they had one out of business.
*gone
For Jane Doe: You were demanding examples of the media bias, so i figure from now on, I’ll give ’em to ya as they come up rather than go back and dig it up – Here’s a biggie – from the Boston Herald (Leftist media sire hypocrisy – AWOL on Edwards, all over Palin): When the story first broke that Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards had cheated on his cancer-stricken wife and sired a baby with a bimbo on his campaign payroll, The New York Times [NYT] refused to run it.
But when the news hit that not the president, not the vice president but the daughter of the vice-presidential nominee is pregnant, the Times ran five – count ’em, five – stories about it. In one day.
Edwards dragged his sick wife through the Iowa boonies and paid his girlfriend off in campaign dollars, and the Times decides it’s not worth writing about.
Meanwhile Bristol Palin is too young to even vote for Edwards, and she makes the front page of nearly every major daily that for weeks refused to report on the Edwards Love Child story.
That’ll do for starters. I didn’t hear what Demockery Now had to say. I’m sure Jane can tell us.
“Bimbo,” Rose? Would it please you if Amy Goodman used such language?
It would make so much sense to focus on a man who lost the Democratic nomination and has no chance of becoming president while simultaneously ignoring the virtually unknown woman who’s running for the (second) highest office.
Hey Rose, check out some of the great minds of the Republikan party.
In their own words.
ALERT – CITY OF EUREKA TO CLEARCUT BEHIND MALL IN HOMELESS WAR ESCALATION
This is the word on the street today. I have not confirmed it with the city yet but I will soon and update you.
have a peaceful day,
Bill
bill@eurekaworkers.org
google Anne Kilkenny. About Palin and her accomplishments in Alaska.
Ghost of Mabel, the words you approximated are from a play of the Bard of Avon, William Shakespeare. The phrase is “Methinks she doth protest too much.” It was written about Lady MacBeth, who talked her husband into committing a treasonous act, and who in the end paid a terrible price for her disloyalty to the nation’s leadership. Just so’s you’ll know.
Obama will be on Olbermann’s show tonight on MSNBC.
We can call it “Softball with Keith Olbermann.”
Rose’s lack of perspective should be a qualified disability.
Rose obviously has never read the news source she mocks or she would know it isn’t an infotainment site that spreads or speculates on gossip. The only mention of Bristol Palin at Democracy Now was in the report on Palin’s speech. In this report they said that Sarah Palin had made the announcement that her daughter was pregnant. PERIOD.
Is the city of Eureka really going to cut down all the bushes behind the mall so that homeless people won’t have anywhere to go back there? So where will they sleep? can’t cut down all the bushes in town. Why won’t the city set up a camp for them and some toilets to? Chief Neilsen says the magnet effect isn’t real, more homeless from other areas won’t happen because we have a campground. we won’t be enabling homelessness but we will be saving lives.
How many lives would we save if we housed the homeless (if they would come in out of the rain?)
How many lives would we save if we could persuade the homeless to stop using dope?
FWIW, the Shakespeare quote is from Hamlet.
It refers to the contradiction that when someone aggressively asserts(protests too much) something , they may actually lose credibility and seem like they’re covering up a lie.
Like an accused person might seem more likely to be guilty if they are too insistent that they are innocent. That’s why having a lawyer dispassionately claim your innocence for you can be better received than making your own passionate plea.
Cato the Elder ended every speech in the Senate with “Carthago delenda est,” about 100 BCE. In the 60’s Joe Pyne used to end his shows with “Straight ahead and get Castro.” Who will be our Carthage?
Filie under: Musicals I would like to see:
Georgy Porgy and Bess
Very well stated, Not a Native. And a good reminder for me.
I love MacBeth so well that into its arms I swept Queen Gertrude’s words from Hamlet. Would that a lifetime of working and watching Keith Olbermann had not stolen the hours I could instead have spent reading the Bard’s precious words!
Fie! I shall o’erturn the habits of a lifetime, take my TV to the garage this very night, and bring out the dusty tomes of my youth.
Anon. Anon.
Thank you, Not a Native. The service you have rendered is of inestimable worth.
Kate, are you a generous benefactor who will pay for the homeless camp? Last time I checked, the city had a financial crisis. The last thing the city can afford is to give handouts to people who want them on a permanent basis.
The campground that we propose will not cost money. It is simply a piece of surplus city ground where people can pitch their tents and park their cars and sleep unhassled. Maybe a paper sign that says “Safe sleep area. City of Eureka.”
There would need to be some portapotties. The city needs some of those anyway so that is not an additional cost.
have a peaceful day,
Bill
How would we persuade the travelers to poop in the porta potties instead of in the bushes? Who would pay to clean up the property? When the homeless throw their old alkaline and Lithium-Ion AA batteries on the ground, who will eventually pay for the removal of the leftover toxic waste? Why don’t they just get a job and rent an apartment like the rest of us poor dumb fockers had to do?
Who would be liable for civil damages when one of the many undisciplined dogs of the homeless bites someone? What’s so hard about getting a steady job and paying your own way in this world?
Who would read and attempt to answer these wonderful, insightful questions?
URGENT – Diesel Spill at Field’s Landing
SUNDAY 1;16 PM
A whaleboat moored at the mill at Field’s Landing has reportedly sunk, and there are reports of diesel fuel in the bay and in the canal around Fields Landing.
Reportedly there are government workers on scene. Please if you have cameras or video cameras please go there and report to us.
Any updates please email bill@eurekaworkers.org
have a peaceful day,
Bill
Considering the lawsuit against the county and several towns, the dog owner would probably sue the taxpayers for not providing a fenced yard for the dog.
Homelessness is the weak link in a society that claims to be just and belive in equality for all. Because of selfishness, greed, intolerance of alternative thoughts and beliefs, poverty, prejudice, sexism, ignorance, hopelessness, violence and a host of other ways and means of oppressing and discouraging people from caring about living at all we have upwards of 6-7 and maybe 10 million people in this country who are looking for a place to sleep at night. Natural disasters alone like the hurricane at Texas and all along the Gulf have created half that population right now. Our old methods of “Tough Love” that has become passe’ because it is used as an excuse to even consider these people seriously on a case by case basis, does not apply to the homeless at this present time nor did it ever. We must build more housing or as an emergency measure set up well run compassionate campgrounds that can allow each camper to choose for themselves how to better their lives. our “programs” have failed just like institutions often do because the program is made to control people rather than the people being allowed to benefit from the program. We need programs that are set up for the people instead of the people being made over in the image of the program. We must give up the idea that people who are homeless are stupid and need to be disciplined for the life they are living and told to conform to middle-class society. Instant make-overs are required to be a “success”. Do you see the reason for resistance? Tell me, how is an individual in trauma supposed to meet the program requirements when they are beyond their capability?
Let’s start instilling dignity, just basic human dignity into the homeless experience by supplying then with a place to take a crap in privacy without fear of getting a ticket while being humiliated by a police officer peering at your human excretion of waste. Public bathrooms are a necessity to the health and welfare of ALL, NOT A LUXURY!
Next we must have a campground. There is not enough housing or shelter space (never has been) for all income brackets in this country. Saying there is perpetuates the myth.
The county has enough public land to allow a five acre sustainable campground. there is absolutely no reason why this cannot and shouldn’t happen. The people who advocate for and those who are homeless have the resources to pull it together.
One point struck me as I read Kate’s first sentence. Our society is based on the idea that all folks are equal, not that all folks get to have an equal share of the wealth. That idea is communism, or at least that’s what it used to be called.
To repeat for the sake of clarity, Created equal means made by God with equal worth. Believing in equality for all means giving to each according to need and taking from each according to the abilty to pay. Yup. That’s Marxism.
And that’s a great start for her 5-acre rules-optional homeless encampment.
Sorry but one thought does not make a government. You cannot say that what I believe about equality is communistic or marxist because that would encompass much more than my belief that this country has a responsibility to make affordable housing available to all income groups. I’m interested in what it is that you oppose to within that thought.
oh yeah…rules optional? Did you hallucinate while reading my comment?
sure. that’s the ticket.
Two days ago, AIG ran the most astonishing commercial, promising freedom from financial fear through buying AIG insurance.
Today, the bottom fell out, sending AIG into the history books as yet another spectacular failure, and sending the Dow Industrial Average down 400 points.
Just goes to show you. When advertisers start making wild promises, disaster follows.
I believe you can camp anywhere in the National Forest for free.
Not legally. Even on public lands, laws govern our behavior.
The Dow dropped 504 points today. Lehman is gone. Merrill Lynch was sold to Bank of America.
What’s it all about, Heraldo?
AIG requested help from the federal reserve to procure a loan of $70 billion to stop a credit rating slide which could bankrupt it. They are also getting a temporary reprieve from regulations which ordinarily prevent it from tapping resources in other AIG owned corporations. Buckle your seat belts.
No comments on the ACLU press release. You guys scrambling to spin this, or what? http://redwoodaclu.blogspot.com/
It’s called a bridge loan. A similar loan in the seventies saved Chrysler.
I sure am glad that Bush and the rest of the wingnut Republicans didn’t succeed at privatising Social Security.
You should be glad too. You might need your Social Security some day.
have a peaceful day,
Bill
You bet they are, 8:33! They don’t like actually having to face their own hostility to free speech outside the Demockery Limited circle of incompetence.
“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”
Too bad enlightenment values such as these are so alien to Kaitlin/David Cobb.
No we are not a nation of laws, we are a nation of people, who delegate their authority to representatives as a republic. The people own the public lands, the “laws” don’t own the land, nor to those who administer the laws(government). Go to Russia if you don’t like it.
“We are a nation of laws, not men.” – John Adams
By your absurd argument above, you would overturn the writ of habeas corpus and undermine the system of checks and balances which is the foundation of our system of government.
You heard it folks, the Measure T fanatics would seek to overthrow the American system of government if that’s what it takes to achieve their extreme ends!
“I hope we shall crush in it’s birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
– Thomas Jefferson
If you don’t like obeying the laws passed by the people’s representatives, go to jail. LOL.
Anyone remember the good old days when local murders were not in the newspaper every single day?
The campground that we propose will not cost money. It is simply a piece of surplus city ground where people can pitch their tents and park their cars and sleep unhassled. Maybe a paper sign that says “Safe sleep area. City of Eureka.”
Too bad you weren’t around to see what happened at Clam Beach when this actually happened. Minus the “sleep safe” sign.
Bill, kate has been unable to answer any of the practical questions on how day to day operations would be handled – who would cook and where, where would food be stored, what would happen when someone gets violent or steals someone else’s food or blankets, are you going to allow sex offenders to sleep next to Moms with kids – just to name a few… very very quickly you get right to all the problems that really make up the basis for the solution we already have – it is called society. You start trying to reinvent it and you’re going to get Lord of The Flies.
This campground is a nice pipe dream. Leave it at that.
Rose proposes such a campground would be in a lawless zone beyond the reach of law enforcement and the courts? Problems can be solved. Safety can be enforced. It would be an overnight campground, would it not?
If they all went to one place to sleep you would have an easier time rounding them up and putting them in prison.
It would be an overnight campground, would it not?
Would it? In theory, maybe, but in practice, look at the Clam Beach debacle again. It will come to someone who wants to stay, and are you going to be so heartless as to kick them out – you’re right back where you started.
As far as proposing it be in a “lawless” zone, kate has made her distaste for law enforcement clear, so one of my many questions to her is how she is going to handle that aspect – is she going to use city cops or the sheriff? Or are they going to handle their own problems? And how does she propose they do that? Sit around the fire and chant?
Like I said, it’s a nice pipe dream. She has had absolutely zero to say on the specifics.
If the homeless need a job (money) go to the Flower Farm and work. What the hell am I working for – to support that shit – not a chance.
More horseshit. There are no jobs for “homeless” people (or healthy young college students either) at Sun Valley Farms. No one is buying cut flowers in this economy. Get real.
have a peaceful day,
Bill
I’d rather be without law enforcement than having them abusing and berating me for “illegal acts of sleeping.” I feel safer among disorganized theft and violence than I do among very well-organized theft and violence.
Flowers from the farm are for sale right now at Safeway – and they ship them to New York, Atlanta, San Francisco – etc. Don’t just get real – get a grip on reality.
very very quickly you get right to all the problems that really make up the basis for the solution we already have – it is called society.
Thanks for the laugh. How exactly has society (especially ours) solved any of these problems?
olphart – I don’t know if you noticed but flower season is wrapping up and Sun Valley shipped most of their employees back to Mexico so that the public won’t have to deal with them (though they are welcome to come back next year around the same time, of course).
Oh great and Noble Lie – those things are called greenhouses out there in the bottoms. They grow flowers year round. Go out to the airport at 4:30 and watch the FedEx plane (and there can be as many as 3 of ’em) load up with flowers that are being shipped all overthe USA.
What? No discussion of a possibly-looming second Great Depression? Are we all just whistling past the graveyard? Are all the intrepid bloggers who project strong images on these pages really cowering from the possibly-coming storm, or merely shocky from the possible implications? I refuse to believe that we who live behind the so-called Redwood Curtain are ignorant of what every cable news network has been broadcasting this week. Wall Street melt-down. Down 504, up 140, down 499, up … oh wait! Where are my sea-sick pills?
During the last Depression, we got uplifting stories about elegant hobos who wore spats and smoked cigar butts held by toothpicks as elegantly as if they were some horse doover (you know what I mean). They became the traveling companions of other tramps whose backgrounds had not included education in the social graces. And yet, per the grand old B&W movies, they got along just fine.
After the Great Depression equalized their portfolios.
You mean Vaudeville?
Today’s topic for debate: Is Capitalism a viable economic model for the 21st Century?
The economy grows for years and years and slows down for 8 months and you guys are ready to abandon ship? Get a grip.
I know for a fact that Anon 7:46 is just trying to get a discussion started.
And now we can see how successful his effort has been.
If anyone would like to have a refreshing look into the world of people with money… check CNBC.
The worried wealthy are calling for advice.
It’s amusing to see THEM sweat for a change.
What are you, the unworried unwealthy? I wonder who employs you or where your living comes from? It’s all connected. I am not finding it amusing to see anyone concerned about their livihood.
I’m certainly not an economics expert (disclaimer) but this smells to me of financial terrorism. They used their political power to deregulate finance and real estate and now we have to bail them by out of the mess they made with their greed and shady but legal business practices. They held the nuclear bomb of cutting off credit over our economy until we agreed to pay the ransom using the taxpayers credit card. Like all blackmailers, I’m sure they’ll come back for more on a regular basis.
You can still get a job at the Flower Farm. They do work year round, irregardless of of the Noble Lie says. They have a large farm they own plus extra acreage they lease in Willow Creek. Even if the economy collapses, won’t a few flowers brighten your day?
And who are “they”, Jane?
I’m not look for a job – but thanks anyway.
Does anyone think the tens of millions of dollars these financial geniuses donated to political campaigns had any effect on the politicians votes regarding banking regulations?
I betcha.
The banks, Miss.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/19/opinion/19krugman.html?hp
Bernanke and Paulson carried the demand to congress last night.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/20/washington/19cnd-cong.html?em
I tried to post the links but apparently word press ate them.
Read Krugman’s column today, “Crisis Endgames”
and “Congressional Leaders Stunned by Warnings ”
both at the NY Times.
Paulson and Bernanke carried the demands to congressional leaders last night.
The short traders and hedge funds think they are getting screwed out of their ability to gamble with the economy with us guaranteeing their losses. It just isn’t fair!
“Markets Soar, but New Rules Upset Traders” – NY Times
Some good information for those looking for safer havens
“Money Market Funds Enter a World of Risk” Don’t let the title scare you.
How exactly has society (especially ours) solved any of these problems?
C’mon, you can figure that out.
Let’s say Jane, I mean Kate’s campers start having problems with someone stealing their food. How are they going to deal with it? Now they could each sit up at night with a loaded pistol to shoot the guy if he comes around. But they have to sleep. So, they start talking to one another, and decide to sleep in shifts, with someone always standing guard. That’s the beginning of society solving the problem.
But they have to be out, hunting and gathering aluminum cans and stuff, so they can’t be there all the time, and besides they don’t much like standing guard. But there is one guy who is willing to stand guard, and he does a good job, doesn’t doze off, and all that, so they get together again, and they agree – they will all share some of what they have with him if he will stand guard. But since he can’t stay up 24/7, they make the same deal with 3 guys who each take an 8 hour shift. That’s society evolving. And a police force in its genesis.
But sooner or later, on one of the shifts, the thief shows up – now what do they do? Crack his skull open? Shoot him? Or arrest him and bring him before the Tribunal?
Follow that train of thought and you see what I mean. It’s not rocket science.
Kate hates the cops, but sooner or later, in her Utopia, they will have to reinvent what society has already provided for her – someone who will stand guard in the night, who will come in and risk their lives when someone dangerous is threatening the rest of the group.
You can apply the same train of thought to the dining problem – the garbage problem – you put all those campers in there and all of those issues are going to have to be addressed. I’m asking kate how she is going to reinvent the wheel since she rejects everything that is already in place.
It’s unfortunate, but it is the truth. Our society needs to be policed in one way or another.
I used to live in a neighborhood where 3 cops lived in my court. They were a lot of fun, great parents, and I felt really safe. I really like the cops I have known and I’m sorry some people have had bad experiences with some rotten apples.
You can’t possibly be not so subtly implying that Kate and I are the same person. You have TRULY gone off the cliff.
Growing Wages and Jobs – MEET WITH GEORGE CLARK AND LINDA ATKINS TODAY 4 PM!
Eureka’s workers earn only 51% of the average California wage. Come hear their plans to Grow Wages and Jobs here in Eureka. George and Linda will be taking questions from the audience. Everyone is invited to the event at 322 F Street, in Eureka’s Old Town.
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I saw where Mr. Anon.R. Mous has passed away, fighting a fire somewhere. Is this true? We used to spar a bit as bloggers with differing views (okay, we disagreed quite a lot) but I am sorry to hear (if it is true) that he is no longer with us. My condolences to his family.
I haven’t heard any reports of local firefighters dying fighting blazes in Southern California.
Living from paycheck to paycheck at half the wage of other Americans does tend to make some of us old washed-up working Humboldt County folks a bit cranky from time to time.
But watching CNBC and hearing some guy with his money spilling over his FDIC limit and complaining when he finds out he might lose a few weeks’ interest on the amount over $100,000 that isn’t covered… to me, that is, how they say it?, “Priceless.”
“I didn’t know I was a slave until I found out I couldn’t do the things I wanted. “- Frederick Douglass
Kate’s probably not afraid of police, she is afraid of corrupt government.
“I haven’t heard any reports of local firefighters dying fighting blazes in Southern California.”
He (Anon.R.Mous) had the superhappyfunblog. Maybe I read it somewhere. I guess know one knows what happened to him.
You read it on his blog. An anonymous comment claims he died a hero’s death fighting fires in SoCal. Yet no local reports seem to back it up.
I read it somewhere else and went to his blog to find out. I’m thinking the guy quit his blogsite. He was pretty disagreeable and crude, but one of the characters that made things interesting.
Let’s hold a national yard sale. All us peasants will sell all our meager possessions. We will then give all the money to the Bankers, CIOs, and Politicians. Then we will all live happily ever after. Because once they have everything we used to have, they will have to stop stealing from us, right?
Rose 9:53. Personally I think there is need for impartial conflict resolution and in fact that’s what responsible police mostly do. The best police have very little need for force because they are proactive in resolving and defusing conflicts. The poorest police routinely use or threaten force because they are reactive, mostly invoking authority in a power struggle with people who are hostile and aggressive in escalated circumstances.
The problem with your pat scenario that presumes to justify a natural need for police authorized to use force, is in your assumption. You’ve assumed that “someone is stealing” food and that ultimtely necessitates force.
Your assumption is consistent with your often stated world view that humans are greedy, selfish and conniving. And that situation necessitates individuals’ being protective, suspicious, cynical and distrustful. Of course, your world view reflect your experiences, also often stated by you, of being personally rejected and dismissed. So, I do understand why the world you live in is indeed hostile and combative.
In the sharing world, no one steals food because food isn’t owned individually, everyone has a claim to partake of and eat food that is available. And when food is scarce, everyone goes hungry. Those who willingly eat even less, go even more hungry so others can have more. Now, does that system work? Here’s one example. Its unheard of for a family to have/need a refrigerator guard to allot food consumption unless a member has an illness.
Rose, if you saw other people more as trusted family(assuming you have one) rather than enemy competitors, the world would seem much more benign than the harsh one you now envision. You’d also understand why cooperation and sharing rather than confrontation and accumulation, is the means to society’s prosperity.
TheTownTalk.com
September 21, 2008
Our view: Jena’s legacy: asking why it happened
One year ago, the town of Jena was tagged by some observers as the site of the reawakening of the nation’s civil-rights movement. Making their point were thousands of people who traveled to Jena from more than 35 states to protest.
For most of them the protest was about racism and allegations of a corrupt criminal-justice system. For some, it was about political activists and the media and how they distorted the facts of the cases of a half-dozen criminal defendants known as the “Jena Six.”
The march should have been about justice, for one and all, and nothing more, but justice has had to wait.
With the benefit of hindsight, it is known that some marchers did not have the facts straight. Their passion was heartfelt, but it was not necessarily flamed by the truth.
Awareness of several things was raised when the protesters marched. Among them was the fact that the Jena Six defendants — a symbol of something larger for the protesters — were nothing like Rosa Parks, the woman who would become an icon in the civil-rights movement.
The defendants are high school students who were charged with attacking another student at Jena High School in December 2006. According to witnesses, they attacked the victim, Justin Barker, from behind. Barker was unconscious before he hit the ground, witnesses say, but the assailants continued to beat him until they were physically restrained by others.
The defendants initially were charged with second-degree attempted murder — a charge that angered some of their parents, guardians and friends, who called the incident a schoolyard fight.
They claimed racism and corruption, and reminded all about the nooses that months before had been hung from a tree on school grounds.
Well-known political activists, including Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, called attention to the wrongs they saw and issued the rallying cry. Like-minded advocates ran with their message, of course, and so did many mainstream media organizations.
The activists and the ensuing media storm took the spotlight off the attack and the facts supporting the criminal charges. It was shifted onto the racial divide that has shaped the South and still does.
Since then, one defendant pleaded guilty to reduced charges, was sentenced to time served and has moved away. The other five defendants await trial.
And Jena’s 3,000 residents — the good, the bad and the indifferent — have their own sense of what happened. All are still asking themselves why it happened.
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The Rich Are Staging a Coup This Morning …a message from Michael Moore
Friends,
Let me cut to the chase. The biggest robbery in the history of this country is taking place as you read this. Though no guns are being used, 300 million hostages are being taken. Make no mistake about it: After stealing a half trillion dollars to line the pockets of their war-profiteering backers for the past five years, after lining the pockets of their fellow oilmen to the tune of over a hundred billion dollars in just the last two years, Bush and his cronies — who must soon vacate the White House — are looting the U.S. Treasury of every dollar they can grab. They are swiping as much of the silverware as they can on their way out the door.
No matter what they say, no matter how many scare words they use, they are up to their old tricks of creating fear and confusion in order to make and keep themselves and the upper one percent filthy rich. Just read the first four paragraphs of the lead story in last Monday’s New York Times and you can see what the real deal is:
“Even as policy makers worked on details of a $700 billion bailout of the financial industry, Wall Street began looking for ways to profit from it.
“Financial firms were lobbying to have all manner of troubled investments covered, not just those related to mortgages.
“At the same time, investment firms were jockeying to oversee all the assets that Treasury plans to take off the books of financial institutions, a role that could earn them hundreds of millions of dollars a year in fees.
“Nobody wants to be left out of Treasury’s proposal to buy up bad assets of financial institutions.”
Unbelievable. Wall Street and its backers created this mess and now they are going to clean up like bandits. Even Rudy Giuliani is lobbying for his firm to be hired (and paid) to “consult” in the bailout.
The problem is, nobody truly knows what this “collapse” is all about. Even Treasury Secretary Paulson admitted he doesn’t know the exact amount that is needed (he just picked the $700 billion number out of his head!). The head of the congressional budget office said he can’t figure it out nor can he explain it to anyone.
And yet, they are screeching about how the end is near! Panic! Recession! The Great Depression! Y2K! Bird flu! Killer bees! We must pass the bailout bill today!! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
Falling for whom? NOTHING in this “bailout” package will lower the price of the gas you have to put in your car to get to work. NOTHING in this bill will protect you from losing your home. NOTHING in this bill will give you health insurance.
Health insurance? Mike, why are you bringing this up? What’s this got to do with the Wall Street collapse?
It has everything to do with it. This so-called “collapse” was triggered by the massive defaulting and foreclosures going on with people’s home mortgages. Do you know why so many Americans are losing their homes? To hear the Republicans describe it, it’s because too many working class idiots were given mortgages that they really couldn’t afford. Here’s the truth: The number one cause of people declaring bankruptcy is because of medical bills. Let me state this simply: If we had had universal health coverage, this mortgage “crisis” may never have happened.
This bailout’s mission is to protect the obscene amount of wealth that has been accumulated in the last eight years. It’s to protect the top shareholders who own and control corporate America. It’s to make sure their yachts and mansions and “way of life” go uninterrupted while the rest of America suffers and struggles to pay the bills. Let the rich suffer for once. Let them pay for the bailout. We are spending 400 million dollars a day on the war in Iraq. Let them end the war immediately and save us all another half-trillion dollars!
I have to stop writing this and you have to stop reading it. They are staging a financial coup this morning in our country. They are hoping Congress will act fast before they stop to think, before we have a chance to stop them ourselves. So stop reading this and do something — NOW! Here’s what you can do immediately:
1. Call or e-mail Senator Obama. Tell him he does not need to be sitting there trying to help prop up Bush and Cheney and the mess they’ve made. Tell him we know he has the smarts to slow this thing down and figure out what’s the best route to take. Tell him the rich have to pay for whatever help is offered. Use the leverage we have now to insist on a moratorium on home foreclosures, to insist on a move to universal health coverage, and tell him that we the people need to be in charge of the economic decisions that affect our lives, not the barons of Wall Street.
2. Take to the streets. Participate in one of the hundreds of quickly-called demonstrations that are taking place all over the country (especially those near Wall Street and DC).
3. Call your Representative in Congress and your Senators. (click here to find their phone numbers). Tell them what you told Senator Obama.
When you screw up in life, there is hell to pay. Each and every one of you reading this knows that basic lesson and has paid the consequences of your actions at some point. In this great democracy, we cannot let there be one set of rules for the vast majority of hard-working citizens, and another set of rules for the elite, who, when they screw up, are handed one more gift on a silver platter. No more! Not again!
Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com
P.S. Having read further the details of this bailout bill, you need to know you are being lied to. They talk about how they will prevent golden parachutes. It says NOTHING about what these executives and fat cats will make in SALARY. According to Rep. Brad Sherman of California, these top managers will continue to receive million-dollar-a-month paychecks under this new bill. There is no direct ownership given to the American people for the money being handed over. Foreign banks and investors will be allowed to receive billion-dollar handouts. A large chunk of this $700 billion is going to be given directly to Chinese and Middle Eastern banks. There is NO guarantee of ever seeing that money again.
P.P.S. From talking to people I know in DC, they say the reason so many Dems are behind this is because Wall Street this weekend put a gun to their heads and said either turn over the $700 billion or the first thing we’ll start blowing up are the pension funds and 401(k)s of your middle class constituents. The Dems are scared they may make good on their threat. But this is not the time to back down or act like the typical Democrat we have witnessed for the last eight years. The Dems handed a stolen election over to Bush. The Dems gave Bush the votes he needed to invade a sovereign country. Once they took over Congress in 2007, they refused to pull the plug on the war. And now they have been cowered into being accomplices in the crime of the century. You have to call them now and say “NO!” If we let them do this, just imagine how hard it will be to get anything good done when President Obama is in the White House. THESE DEMOCRATS ARE ONLY AS STRONG AS THE BACKBONE WE GIVE THEM. CALL CONGRESS NOW.
Oprah’s mother ran up a bill of over $100,000 at a fancy clothing store. The store waited, but Oprah’s Mom never paid. The store sued for payment.
Not to be outdone, Oprah’s Mom sued the store right back.
What for? For giving her too much credit !!!
I say, bail the “poor” old dear out.
Requiring people to pay for the things they buy is now Un-American! Especially requiring rich people to pay for the things they buy. We, the workers and retirees, that is now OUR JOB.
The most obvious flaw of the “FailOut” is that the crooks, cowards and liars in Congress are offering no way to pay for it. Instead they plan to raise the debt ceiling by over a TRILLION $
The obvious way to pay is to restore the taxes on the rich. Anything short of that is bipartisan FRAUD.
Thompson voted against this crime. Thank you. Keep voting NO, Mr. Thompson.
have a peaceful day,
Bill
TS broke news that the Pulp Mill is laying off and may close “temporarily”. Good opportunity for Rex Bohn to push a broom and lose some weight. Maybe it will reinvigorate Richard Mark’s bid for a Government job.
Bill, did you read the T-S this morning?
Thompson caved.
Vote Wolman.
We need to vote out incumbents and vote in new people. It is our only chance.
have a peaceful day,
Bill
A move to secede on California-Oregon border>/a>
This is a must read article about John McCain. It explains the inconsistencies and huge changes in him in recent years.
Make Believe Maverick
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912/makebelieve_maverick/print
Please, let’s have no efforts to disassemble the USA until after the economic sink-hole has been filled in.
“U-S-A — NO DISSASSEMBLE !!!”
Do your country a favor, read this before you vote.
Read the Rolling Stone biography of John McCain. He isn’t who you think he is. Lots of quotes from people who have known him for 60 years, his fellow prisoners of war, politicians from his own party, ex-employees and ex-friends. Share it with everyone you know.
Make Believe Maverick
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/233169…
Link change
Do your country a favor, read this before you vote.
Read the Rolling Stone biography of John McCain. He isn’t who you think he is. Lots of quotes from people who have known him for 60 years, his fellow prisoners of war, politicians from his own party, ex-employees and ex-friends. Share it with everyone you know.
Make Believe Maverick
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
I’ll read the Rolling Stone piece on McCain after I read the piece you linked to tell about the “unknown Barack H. Obama.”
Oh! You didn’t post a link to a piece telling the hidden truth about Obama?
Why am I not surprised?
I don’t have that link. Obama’s life is pretty much out there. Haven’t you been watching the McCain ads? :P
The vast majority of anti-Vietnam War protestors would never think of using violence. Ayers and Dohrn and the “Weather Underground” killed the anti-war movement by linking it in Middle America’s mind with bombs and guns and blood and hatred.
Obama chose many years later to associate with these people. I personally wouldn’t cross the street to tell them to go to Hell.
Post debate…
McCain is old news. Obama is our next President.
Sweet.
Even the Republican analysts agreed.
If Obama loses, racism wins…….
Choose America!!
I voted for Calvin Coolidge!
Vote Obama in haste.
Repent at leisure.
Obama said it today. “I can take four more weeks of McCain… but I can’t take four more weers of ….”
WTF? Four more WEERS?
How eloquent, Mr. Hussein!
Michelle Obama coins new word to replace “pundits.”
Pundints.
On Larry King on CNN tonight.
Oct 3rd 2008
By Jeremy Taylor
Happy Hour HeroNews
(Our happy hour fact to amaze your drinking buddies with.)
Panhandlers can earn between $30 to $40 an hour, according to a new study.
In a report commissioned by the city of Spokane, Washington, researchers found that most panhandlers are not actually homeless. However, street beggars do frequently suffer from substance abuse problems, often have criminal records and rarely have (traditional) employment.
They also found that a successful panhandler can make twice the hourly wage of the average American worker, who makes about $19 an hour.
An Asylum study has found panhandlers are also much tanner than the typical office slave, and get to meet all kinds of new and interesting people each day. Just something to think about if you are considering a career change and have no shame.
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The classified report says corruption inside President Hamid Karzai’s government and an increase in attacks by militants operating from Pakistan have accelerated the breakdown in central authority in Afghanistan, the Times said, citing U.S. officials familiar with the document.
Asked to comment on the intelligence report, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she had not seen it herself…….
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE4985QW20081009
God bless us, every one.
Apparently prayer does work.
The Dow just had its highest one-day point gain in its history, 936 points. This is in response to the coordinated action of the G7 governments to strengthen the world-wide banking system.
Tiny Tim is happy to hear this news, because it might mean there will not be a second Great Depression, after all.
Timmy asks us not to become over-confident, but instead to keep praying that God will continue to bless us, every one.
Memo to Our Republican Friends
Take your Reaganomics Play Station and all your toys, your supply slides, your slippery slopes, your laffer curves, and your erection sets and your linkedin logs and go play in the sandbox for a few years. Just don’t eat the cat shit or wander into the street dear. We adults have some problems to solve. :)
have a peaceful day,
Bill
Bill, please don’t include yourself the problems solving equation, as it only shows how delusional you are.
Everyone please be aware that at least one polling place has been changed for the election.
Mine has been changed from the Adorni to the Wharfinger Building. I was notified via post card just Monday.
Does anyone else have news on any other changes?
We must be vigilant in these times of Republican voter fraud and election fraud. We must be vigilant against caging. Don’t let the Republicans steal another election!
Yes, and don’t let any illegal aliens vote, either.
Please, folks, don’t vote for the Anti-Christ.
There is a possibility that Lee & Mann is physically moving the evergreen pulp mill machinery overseas.
http://samoasoftball.blogspot.com/2008/10/chris-kerrigan-called-me-today.html
I wonder if Mr. Hockaway will rescind their company of the year award.
Too many people confuse capitalism with Democracy
business with Morality
cronyism with an Open Market
Hey there Heraldo,
I Thought you might want to post a piece about this remarkable woman, Betty Chinn, who just won a big award for her tireless work for poor folks here in Eureka.
http://www.times-standard.com/localnews/ci_10744122
I’m guessing that relatively few Eurekans know who Betty Chinn is and how much she is doing for this community — hich is in part because she does not toot her own horn or waste her efforts on media grandstanding.
I met Betty Chinn when I was working with special needs children at Lafayette Elemantary school in Myrtletown several years ago. Betty Chinn was working there as a part-time aide, not a position that pays very much money — I’m guessing less than $20,000 a year.
So when I saw this T-S recent article about an award being given to a “local philanthropist” I first thought that maybe it was a different Betty Chinn. Because usually when we read about “philanthropists” we’re reading about rich folks giving away millions (which is laudable, but which in some cases only represents a few days of their income). But Ms. Chinn has shown, in a very dramatic way, how folks in modest economic circumstances can be the highly effective philanthropists.
In these tough economic times, Betty Chinn’s story is a breath of fresh air, and a much-needed antidote to the pessimism and cynicism that all too often prevents us from pulling together to alleviate the hunger and hopelessness of the least fortunate among us.
This award was well-deserved, and Chinn’s efforts deserve greater support and recognition.
Thank you for posting that!
Thanks, Sleepyhead. I posted your comment to the front page, with a link to the Oprah video.
When OJ was a sports star and then a movie star, we admired him a lot. I think everybody did.
How were we supposed to know he was a wife-beater?
The news media did not tell us anything about that.
His first trial proved he was a repeat offender. But the news media did not tell us anything about that.
Were they trying to help him keep his image clean?
When it came out, finally, after years, the kind of man he really was, I took a lesson from that.
The news media cannot be trusted.
We need to pay attention to the news.
But it is just as important for us to notice what the news media does not report as what it does report.
This is most important right now, since the news media is selling us a product without letting us see the warning label. The “product” is Obama. The warning label can only be found on Fox News.
Now, Powell says Obama is inspiring. Give it a year, and everybody will be groaning about Obama and his endless Platitudes.
Thanks for the tip that Barack will win the election.
Here’s another tip. Soon Americans will be sporting a new bumper sticker: “Don’t blame me. I voted for McCain.”
Maybe their bumper-stickers should say “Do blame me: I’m living in a fantasy world.”
I expect that if Obama is elected, this will likely cause an immediate (short-term) upsurge in the stock market, as investors will be reassured that a grown-up is once again in charge of the American economy. After all, a large part of the recent stock market crash (yes, let’s call it what it is, a crash) is a loss of confidence: fear and despair. And what does it take to counteract fear and despair? Reassurance and hope. The change of leadership offers some of both, especially given the historic nature of the Obama candidacy and his considerable political, organizational and oratorial skills.
If Obama wins by a sizeable margin, and can therefore claim a real mandate for change (and progressive forces gain ground in Congress as well, as is expected), we may finally see an end to the war in Iraq, perhaps some kind of real national health insurance plan, positive approaches to environmental and climate issues, and long-overdue reforms to the tax structure. Yes, that does mean higher taxes on the wealthier folks since they’ve benefitted most from the nation’s resources, and they are the ones who have the most to give.
And I also think that, beyond the financial and political issues, the world’s opinion of Americans’ judgement and wisdom in choosing a leader will skyrocket as many folks around the world will look forward in anticipation to having someone intelligent and open-minded in charge in Washington for a change, instead of an arrogant and close-minded “true believer” like Bush.
Wow, October 19,2008 at 4:00 pm, how can you see to type through those eyeholes? Must be about as hard as figuring out what has happened to our country by watching FOX News. Why don’t you take off the robe and put down the remote and join us in reality.
Who does Rob Arkley support? .
John McCain is “too liberal” for Rob Arkley.
Rob Arkley supports Frank Jager. Enough said.
Let’s keep the Arkley drones off of the city council.
That strategy worked real well for you in 2006, when three out of four Arkley backed candidates won.
It’s a losing strategy, don’t you see, regardless of what you think of Arkley. As someone who supports Clark/Atkins, I urge you to do something more constructive to support them instead of attacking their opponents.
We see that Biden, for all his years of experience, may be less qualified than newcomer Sarah Palin in matters requiring the equivalent of high-school-level proficiency in American History.
I’ve long wondered why Biden could not understand the clear language of the Second Amendment. Now that I know he thinks Franklin Roosevelt was President in 1929 and was able to give reassuring talks to Americans on the Television, I believe I have put my finger on the problem. And my finger is pointing directly at Joseph Biden’s forehead.
For those who still think Obama’s youthful hard drug use had no effect on his mind: Click here: BBC NEWS | World | Americas | ‘Tired’ Obama makes tornado gaffe
Yeah, I can’t imagine why Obama would be tired.
Rats! The link didn’t work!
Well, I’m sure Heraldo can fix that.
I can only fix a link if you leave a link.
‘Tired’ Obama makes tornado gaffe
In a campaign slip-up, US Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama dramatically overstated the number killed by recent tornadoes in Kansas.
“In case you missed it, this week there was a tragedy in Kansas,” he said, adding that 10,000 people had died.
The true number of people killed was 12. Mr Obama later appeared to blame tiredness for the gaffe.
Senator Hillary Clinton currently enjoys a double digit lead over Mr Obama in national opinion polls.
A spokesman later said Mr Obama had meant to say “at least 10” instead of 10,000.
During his speech the Democratic senator from Illinois did however appear to realise his mistake.
“There are going to be times when I get tired,” he said. “There are going to be times when I get weary. There are going to be times when I make mistakes.”
Recovery ‘slowed’
Twelve people are known to have died across the state of Kansas when it was struck by a series of storms over the weekend.
At least 10 of the dead were in the town of Greensburg, which was almost entirely flattened by a particularly powerful tornado.
At a campaign rally on Tuesday in Richmond, Virginia, Mr Obama said the Bush administration’s war in Iraq had affected the response to the tornadoes.
“Turns out that the National Guard in Kansas only had 40 percent of its equipment and they are having to slow down the recovery process in Kansas,” Mr Obama said.
He was echoing remarks made by Kansas’ Democratic governor Kathleen Sebelius, who had said the residents of Greensburg had suffered because of a lack of military equipment for the recovery.
“I don’t think there is any question if you are missing trucks, Humvees and helicopters that the response is going to be slower,” she said.
A White House spokesman hit back at the criticism, saying there was enough such equipment in other parts of the country to come to any state’s aid.
The Democrats and Republicans are currently rowing over funding for the war in Iraq. All the Democratic candidates are united in their call for withdrawing troops.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/americas/6638207.stm
Published: 2007/05/09 11:01:19 GMT
© BBC MMVIII
This is the link to the important BBC article that is a warning to Americans about the kind of wild mistake Obama is capable of making when he is “tired.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/americas/6638207.stm
God help us if he is “tired” when a national emergency happens.
Well, have a good night’s sleep, Heraldo.
How can Obama supporters trust him now? Obama’s claim to moral superiority was his opposition to the Iraq War. Now Obama happily accepts the support of General Powell, who lied the United States into the Iraq War with the convincing pack of lies he presented to the United Nations.
Whatever else may or may not be true about Obama, this much is now known:
Obama IS a hypocrite.
Is Nader Subaru out of business? I went there today and it was locked up tighter than drum. FedEX notices on the door. Tried calling but number out of service.
Anybody know a good Subaru service place?
Okay… so Nader is gone. McRea is now the Sub dealer in Eureka.
Funny about Nader though… They moved recently out on Broadway. Miserable place to get in and out of. The car lot out front is full of new cars covered with dust and dirt and weeds growing up between them.
Nader (the car dealer) had numerous complaints by their employees for defrauding their customers. He moved his dealership up here from down south, where he had the same problems.
Of course Heraldo doesn’t want to talk about the case against Nader. After all, Stephen Davies is the lawyer for the victims, and Heraldo is too convinced that he’s a lunatic to recognize any good he might be doing for the community.
Perhaps you should explain rather than foam at the mouth about David Cobb all the time.
What good is Davies doing? He only recently started attending meetings of the Water District, to which he wants to be elected. Where is the evidence of Davies making good for victims?
Days of Action Against Police Brutality October 22nd and 23rd
Meet in Old Town Eureka 12pm Wednesday to begin this 2 day event.
This is a national effort to engage communities in discussion that leads to reigning in the police power of oppression.
Call 633-4493 for more info
Days of Action against young people high on meth and carrying 10-in knives with 5-inch blades.
Oct 22 and 23.
Meet us via your own computer keyboard.
This is an international event you can join by writing comments in public blogging areas to encourage responsible, law-abiding behavior among young people and responsible, law-abiding behavior modeling among parents.
This event seeks to rein in the irresponsible, lax, unintelligent abrogation of responsibility at all levels of child-rearing. Only by encouraging self-control and thoughtfulness toward one’s neighbors can we hope to decrease the harm that occurs when children who have been raised without limits engage in armed conflict with “We the People” or with the police officers we retain to protect our lives and property.
During this international keyboarding event, encourage a parent to act responsibly. The life you save may be that parent’s own child.
Not to mention the adults who brought meth over from germany with the nazi scientists so that they could conquer the world….police officers are not here to protect society, they are hired to protect the rich. Chris Burgess had no blade that was a threat to a cop who was above him in a gulch. Cheri moore was not a hazard that warranted shots to her back and without an inquest Martin Cottons death is questionable and all evidence points to the excessive force of cops. Cops are liars and not really any smarter than the rest of society, like the military they follow orders and improvise when they want to because they have the blue shield to protect them, they are always protected, look at Liles for proof and now Gunderson.
oh yes, and the Tough Love movement has created the streets of hell that we walk everyday. You can thank that stupid bit of Pop psychology for the present homeless situation.
Put them up at your home, Katie. Show us how it’s done! Lead by example, not by constant nagging.
Hey, Kate, amphetamines were used in Hollywood as early as 1939. Judy Garland said they were given to her when she became tired during the rehearsals and the filming of the Wizard of Oz, which was released in that year.
Since World War Two didn’t end until 1945, maybe your conspiracy theory is, shall we say, inaccurate.
CNN reported that Goldman Sachs set aside $13.5 billion through the third quarter for pay packages and bonuses — an average of $414,000 per employee. Morgan Stanley earmarked $10.7 billion, Merrill Lynch logged $11.2 billion, and CitiGroup set aside $25.8 billion. The numbers, though, were lower than the amounts at these institutions for the first three quarters of 2007. Bonus tallies at Goldman, Morgan and Merrill combined were about 20 percent less than in 2007.
Representative Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) was outraged at a similar report in The Guardian that showed that discretionary bonuses planned for the first three quarters topped $70 billion. Kucinich voted against the recent $700 billion (plus) bailout package approved by the Senate and House in October.
“When Congress placed restrictions on excessive executive pay, it had no intention of permitting business as usual with respect to bonus structures,” he told The Guardian. “It would add insult to injury to ask taxpayers not only to bail out a firm, but to pay for bonuses as well. The Guardian’s report necessitates an immediate inquiry.”
http://www.diamonds.net/news/NewsItem.aspx?ArticleID=23817
File this under WTF?
Eureka Reporter endorses Shane Brinton
SHANE BRINTON.
Young, bright, energetic and realistic about the issues. From hobnobbing with Marxists as a youth, he has come a long way. Today, he could best be described as a progressive who seeks to understand both sides of an issue. Favors light industrial parks for “green” energy businesses
A dedicated businessman will sell you the rope with which to hang him.
Did any pro-ObamaBiden people respond to Biden’s brain-spasm about FDR going on the Television in 1929?
Are you idiots so stupid you think Americans didn’t notice that ignorant, spacey Biden-ism?
We did.
That got noticed in the Virgin Islands, most – if not all Countries in Africa, Europe, Asia and probably at scientific outposts in Antarctica. So? McCain/Pallin have as wide an audience.
amphetamines and meth are not exactly the same there el dopo
the japanese had methamphetamine at the end of world war 1 then the germans got ahold of it then did we…
I did put up homeless in my yard but was told I haven’t the right kind of zoning or sewage system to do so….I have rented large houses and rented out rooms….I have done all that 1 woman can do alone…..I will not ask anyone to do anything that I am not willing to do….
Only in Humboldt (posted to freecycle):
WANTED: S n u f f boxes/Nasal snuff items ( Eureka)
Posted by: “humboldt********” ******.*******@gmail.com humboldt*********
Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:22 am (PDT)
Anything related to nasal snuff tobacco would be cool !
The Chinese used glass but all of the rest of the snuff boxes are
made out of wood or metal,silver etc.
Nasal snuff was THE original way of using tobacco and it is a great
way to quit smoking and chewing while still enjoying lady nicotine &
saving bank. It is also an appetite suppressant.
There have been ZERO medical problems associated or documented with
the use of snuff tobacco. Please contact me for more information if
you would like to learn more about this fine hobby.
Shalom,
~Myche
GEORGE CLARK
GEORGE CLARK ON PETER B COLLINS IN A FEW MINUTES. 1480 KGOE AM EUREKA
TUNE IN NOW!
Heraldo? Thanks for keeping Kateascot’s insult toward me intact, while deleting my reply. Fair and balanced? Not around here.
Holy Cow! Who was that complete nutcase I heard on Peter B this evening?
Jager, if elected he will be a handmaiden for developers, government in general as that is where he works, Big Big boxes, the city manager. He will not be the handmaiden to the poor, homeless, small business, lower income employed, or anything that sounds democratic. I know, council is a nonpartisan position, BULL.
Charles Rangel is a sarcastic, caustic S.O.B.
He is now being broadcast on C-SPAN berating the governor of South Carolina, Mark Sanford.
Sanford is advocating a reduction in the number of unfunded federal mandates.
That was enough to send Rangel into a five or ten minute hissy fit.
What a moron. He’s the Chair of the House Ways and Means Committee by the way.
Jager, if elected, will set the homeless on fire then build a big box where that happened.
And he is an arab terrorist who wasn’t born in the USA.
Once Obama is elected, all citizen input will be automatically labelled racist, and be promptly ignored.
I own a blog here in Humboldt and my experience is that 80 percent of the obnoxious comments come from one IP address, and from the syntax I think they are all from one person.
The IP address is for an anonymous internet proxy. It is easy to tell this person apart from the others.
How about you?
Sometimes the 80% figure holds true around here, though not through a proxy. Proxies are less common.
Charles Winkler is the worst possible candidate for the city of Arcata. The extreme left of this extreme right is Geronimo. Honestly the last thing needed in Arcata is another Alex stillman!
Winkler extreme right? Holy cow, how far off the left edge do you have to be to think Winkler is conservative?
He’s a shoe-in, you know, of course. There are only two questions…
Will commonly presumed 2nd place finisher Machi come in 4th as the HSU survey indicated? Or will Ornelas and Brinton be competing for the third seat? This will be interesting.
Briton please, Ornelas is a silly politician, good teacher. Winkler is the example of the blending of Rep and Dem, can’t tell em apart.
Arcata is on a fast track for some big upsets this next 4 years. people are getting restless and it’s bound to get worse. Winkler will not beable to stand he’ll crack under the pressure.
Pebbles calls my posts obnoxious because they make him think.
Correct. People are fed up with the leniency shown homeless tourists. We’ll soon have funding for park rangers, much less environmental pollution from illegal campers, and a lot happier residents.
Perhaps the greatest upset would be no homeless services without case management. It’s Kate who will be the most upset.
Isn’t his name Michael?
Personally, I vote for “right-wing” politicians who remain true to their principles. I can only think of one whom I’ve been in the position to vote for who has won and election in the last ten years: Roger Rodoni.
Michael Winkler is so obviously a leftist that it would be misinformation to associate a single item of his political platform with the right. He has some pretty fascist ideas, but it should be no surprise that this is what the left wing is all about.
Perhaps read about what the “right” and “left” wing of politics truly represent instead of basing this on the current political climate in the U.S. These days there are so many centrists that it is hard to tell where people stand.
Obama is making a speech in Des Moines this morning. He is offering bribes for votes. Will Americans in the year 2008 accept these bribes?
Obnoxious speech is Constitutionally-protected.
Hey H,
I got one for you. Yesterday’s Bigfoot headline in the TS.
http://www.times-standard.com/ci_10853838?source=most_viewed
I mention it because of the way it opens:
“Maybe it was bad light or bad mushrooms. Maybe it was someone in a stitched-up bear skin creeping up on the bonfire to scare the wits out of his brother. Or maybe it really was a rare primate that wandered near camp in the dark several thousand years ago that caught someone’s eye.
However it happened, Sasquatch was hatched into the human consciousness, long, long ago. ”
I hold this to be a pretty racist approach to this article, and I will explain why. Note that I am not a Native American and not trying to speak for anyone who is. I just think this deserves mention.
Sasquatch has for thousands of years been a part of local Native tradition. As I understand it, Sasquatch is considered to be a spiritual being that exists on the physical as well as spiritual planes. Now, I am a pretty here and now five senses kind of guy, but that is not the point.
What would the community reaction be to a cover story about a saint, prophet or messiah of one of the “great” religions was begun by accusing the believers of being on drugs.
How would it come across if the story was something like this: “Perhaps the light was bad, or perhaps the rye was infected with argot. Maybe it was a trickster with trained snakes. Or maybe it really was a man chosen by God to rid the land of snakes. Either way, the idea of St. Patrick embedded itself in the Irish Cathloc concientiousness centuries ago.”
How would that go over?
I am not trying to pick any fights here, but I have felt the need to point it out. The TS has a terribly dark history in relationship to the local native community. Its predecessor, the Humboldt Times, editorialized in praise of those who perpetrated the massacre on Indian Island, for instance. In more recent years, if you read the comments section of any article relating to Hoopa or any of the Indian communities, you will find the plainest forms of racism state in the simplest of terms.
These comments do not get removed despite the use guidelines stated on the website. No other ethnic group gets targeted like this in that papers comment section without it being edited out.
And now the front page feature story begins by stating essentially that the adherents of Native spiritual traditions are either confused or on drugs.
Discuss
Ouch! Catholic. Sorry for the misspelling.
The fact that Arcata is being militarized because it is paranoid of its own shadow is what will bring it down. Tourism is what Arcata lives for and to be separatist about it in classifying one segment of society (those with money) against another (those without) is not what happens in a free country. This is classism, what our forefathers and mothers fled to this land to overcome. I agree that Deadheads and Jerry Garcia did not do our youth any favors by instituting laziness and drug use but the cold hearted approach by city government hasn’t shown these young people a life that they want to emulate. In fact all the laws made against them only feeds the fuel of dissention.
The rebellious child says, I refuse to wash behind my ears because my mommy and daddy want me to wash behind my ears.
Months pass.
Has the independent child, rejecting the crass bourgeois expectation of the parents, continued to let the dirt build up behind the ears?
No. The itching became unbearable, so the child decided to wash behind the ears. The child is so much more comfortable now. And in making this choice, the child has taken yet another step toward adulthood.
Being a grown-up is a lot better than many children imagine it to be.
Ah yes, Tough Love, ug!
…why the Eureka Reporter skunked the Times-Standard on the HSU “the sky is falling” report, then the next day did it again. When the ER gets a scoop, why does the TS respond by pretending the scoop isn’t news, then waiting a week to mention it, if at all?
Great if the ER is no longer competition, but what the hell am I paying the TS for if it’s not going to stay on top of things?
Arcata took the ability to make judgements for the people who actually live in Arcata away when it allowed the students to decide who should be on the City Council. Students are transient voters, not there when the bills need to be paid.
People who throw trash down and leave it there should not be permitted to vote.
Only people who love their community well enough to pick trash up off the streets and sidewalks should be allowed to participate as full citizens.
Yes, only people will fully formed limbs and hands not crippled by arthritis should be allowed to vote. Screw everyone else. They’re not Americans.
only those with jobs should vote, noone who is foreclosed upon should vote, ever been to jail? No vote for you. Etc. What is freedom anyway?
And no voting for non-Christians! Jail any of the heathens who claim to profess love in Jesus, as if accepting Jesus makes you a Christian! How preposterous!
What the heck is going on with C/R? They were so down in enrollment and complaining and now do I hear whining that they have so many students they don’t know where to put them all?
Consumer Reports doesn’t have any students, dumbass.
OK, wise guy. Let me amend my remarks. Able-bodies litterbugs should be deported. Physically-challenged litterbugs should only be fined.
“Able-bodied” is what I meant. Damn disabled fingers!
I’m all for blending Republicans and Dems, the perfect combination would lie somewhere therein.
Palin pranked by ‘Sarkozy’
Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin has been taken in by a prank call from a Canadian comedian posing as French President Nicolas Sarkozy.
Marc Antoine Audette invited her to hunt baby seals by helicopter, and told her she could make a good president.
But she told him she would have to wait eight years.
The Times-Standard reports on a quaint custom of certain Islamic nations. Today’s story:
Amnesty: Somali rape victim, 13, stoned to death
MOGADISHU, Somalia — A 13-year-old girl who said she had been raped was stoned to death in Somalia after being accused of adultery by Islamic militants, a human rights group said.
Dozens of men stoned Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow to death Oct. 27 in a stadium packed with 1,000 spectators in the southern port city of Kismayo, Amnesty International and Somali media reported, citing witnesses. The Islamic militia in charge of Kismayo had accused her of adultery after she reported that three men had raped her, the rights group said.
Initial local media reports said Duhulow was 23, but her father told Amnesty International she was 13. Some of the Somali journalists who
first reported the killing later told Amnesty International that they had reported she was 23 based upon her physical appearance.
Same story, different report:
13yo ‘adulterer’ stoned to death: Amnesty
Posted Sun Nov 2, 2008 10:42am AEDT
The human rights group Amnesty International says a girl stoned to death in southern Somalia earlier this week was only 13 years old.
Amnesty says the girl was convicted of adultery after complaining that three men had raped her.
She was buried up to her neck and stoned to death in a crowded stadium in the Somali city of Kismayo.
– BBC
One thousand “spectators.”
yeah like gladiators…only women are so direspected they have NO defense…like women in prison for killing the men that tried to kill them….or the american women fighting the war in Irag that are continually raped and the perps are left alone….
Those Somalians are black and they are muslims but they are not Black Muslims. I say, let the girls (and maybe even the boys) out and then nuke the whole filthy country.
Dirty bastards!
And you think YOUR teen years were tough!
“Teen survives being compacted in garbage truck
MILWAUKEE — Police in Milwaukee say a teenage boy has survived after being accidentally dumped into the back of a recycling truck and compacted.
Police say the 14-year-old ran away from a boot camp-style school for teens Monday and hid in a recycling bin filled with cardboard.
The bin was picked up by a Waste Management truck and dumped into the vehicle’s rear compactor.
The boy wasn’t discovered until the truck dumped its load at a recycling processing center. He was semiconscious and was taken to a hospital, but police say his injuries aren’t life-threatening.”
SHOOTING TONIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SHANTY IN OLD TOWN EUREKA….APPROX 11OO PM
Heraldo? Maybe you could archive this material and start afresh at some point. You could ask your readers if they would favor such a change.
“Piss off!” says Cal-trans to the residents of Arcata and Eureka. We’re going to cut the trees, block the exits, and give you j turns!
I agree with Anonymous 3:28 above. This is cluttered up with kateascot’s irrational ramblings and some other junk. Maybe a new Quicknote each month?
I’m not sure how to archive all the comments so that they would be available. I’ll try to figure something out.
OffTheRez has it right. Based on the article in today’s Time Standard, Caltrans is going to grace us with two half-assed new alternatives, hold a sham public comment session, and go forward with project the way they wanted. This will ignore needs for a bike trail and bike safety and cut down the trees to install unneeded lanes for a single private business. Once Caltrans makes up its mind to do something it takes an act of the legislature to get them to change their mind. So for those who think Caltrans has its head in a dark and damp place, that will probably be where the battleground will move.
Cal Trans received an overwhelming amount of public input on this corridor plan and then ignored it!
CalTrans does a helluva lot to accommodate and adapt projects based on public input. That’s fact. Track any project and notice the design changes from the first public meeting to the final plan.
The trees are invasive as well as bad for soil acidity. But then again, so are the humans driving along the corridor along with CRC and their so called “sustainable” operation.
I think that Cal-Trans has too much funding or lacks focus in the areas really needing improvement.
Let the trees stay!
Is there a history of accidents with trucks exiting and entering 101 from the mill?
Caltrans was asked this question during one of the public hearings and said there was no known recorded accident in history. But then can you believe anything Caltrans tells you?
There is a big history with accidents at this site! You mean in front of the mil behind the trees?? I have photos. The logging trucks pull out of there and are often rear-ended by cars coming up behind them You don’t expect a slow-moving logging truck to be blocking the lane right in front of you. My relative is lucky to alive and I know of two other incidents that happened there. Also, trucks pulling into the lumber business have to stop to turn in, as sometimes there are obstacles like exiting cars blocking them from turning in without stopping. Cars often rear-end trucks both entering and exiting this exact spot- it is a big problem. People who commute and pass this every day have seen this. Ask the CHP.
I don’t think I believe a word Annoy.Miss said.
I wonder if Caltrans will fill us in on December 2nd.
If we are speaking of the turn-out in front of Arcata Redwood or whatever that mill is behind the eucalyptis trees is, it has been the site of numerous accidents, one in my immediate family. When this happened, the highway was backed up all the way to Arcata. His car was 2 years old and was a complete total. I have been aware of this hazard since. Why would I lie? I like the trees. I’m just telling you, there is a problem with trucks leaving and entering this area.
Then we should get rid of Simpson.
1. PL is taken over by MRC.
2. Evergreen Pulp closes.
3. Simpson moves out of Humboldt?
Great things come in trees. I mean threes.
Why is it more dangerous now, with a 50 mph speed limit, than it was years ago, when the speed limit was 65 mph, and vehicles always drove faster than the posted limit?
I think any change like this has to have a set of statistics to go with it. I am betting CalTrans will present some. How else can they rationalize this?
I just saw the tape of two female officers interrogating the eight-year-old boy accused of shooting his father and a tenant in their home to death a few days ago.
I’ve been very pro-police during the terrible controversies of the recent past, here in Eureka.
But let me leave that alone for now.
You’ve got to see the tape of those two officers trying to plant in that kid’s head the idea that he shot his own father.
Like the McMartin Preschool case, the interrogators wear the kids down until the kids don’t know what the truth is anymore. When the kids implicate the parties the police want them to implicate, the police feel they have done a good job.
It turned my stomache.
They didn’t give the kid his Miranda rights. They didn’t tell him he had the right to have an attorney present, and the certainly didn’t explain to him the consequences of going along with them – changing his original statement of innocence to what they wanted him to say.
The way the media originally presented the story, and the way CNN, thankfully, is showing the leaked interrogation tape, are like night and day.
This kid is being railroaded. Eight years old. Came home to discover his Dad with blood all over his face, dying or already dead. And now the unskilled police inquisitors are planting in his mind the idea that he killed his father.
Before you jump to the conclusion that I am an old softy, see the tape.
President Bush says he believes in capitalism until it runs the economy into a ditch. Then he believes in socialism. But only until it lifts the super-rich back into the saddle of capitalism, where once again, they will ride mankind.
hey what happened to the biodiesel spill reporting gaffe thread?
i was about to chip in that shooting the messenger doesn’t seem to be what is on people’s minds!
Is the election of Obama the beginning of the end? Or is it only the end of the beginning?
Anonymous(i.e. chickensh*t): Yeah. whatever….?!?
Ghost (i.e. horse shit). Nya Ha ha! Two can play at that game! (But why would they want to?)
News Details
MARINA CENTER DRAFT EIR
Notice of Availability of Draft Environmental Impact Report
MARINA CENTER
Pursuant to the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) Guidelines Sections 15087 and 15105, the City of Eureka is providing Notice of Availability of a Draft Environmental Impact Report (DEIR) SCH# 2006042024 for the Marina Center Project as described below. All interested persons are invited to comment on the DEIR pursuant to the provisions of CEQA. The comment period is 60 days starting on December 1, 2008, and ending on January 31, 2009. Comments must be in writing, including submittal by email, and must be submitted prior to the close of the comment period to the Community Development Department at the address and email noted below.
Project Title: MARINA CENTER
Project Applicant: CUE VI LLC
Project Location: The project site is located in the City of Eureka on a 43 acre site that is generally bounded by Waterfront Drive to the north and west, Washington Street to the south, and Broadway (Highway 101) to the east. Assessor Parcel Numbers: 001-014-002; 003-021-009; 003-031-003; 003-031-008; 003-031-012; 003-031-013; 003-041-005; 003-041-006; 003-041-007; and 003-051-001.
Project Description: The project applicant, CUE VI, LLC proposes a mixed-use development that would include approximately 313,500 sq. ft. of Retail/Service/Furniture including 28,000 sq. ft. of Nurseries/Garden; 104,000 sq. ft. of Office; 72,000 sq. ft. of Multi-Family Residential (54 dwelling units); 70,000 sq. ft. of Light Industrial use; 14,000 sq. ft. of Restaurant; and 12,500 sq. ft. Museum. The new buildings would be between one and five-stories. The project would include approximately 1,590 parking spaces, including about 462 spaces in a four-level parking structure.
The project would include remediation of the brownfield project site to meet federal and state environmental cleanup and water quality standards.
The project would also include the creation of an 11.89 acre wetland reserve. This area would include landscaped buffers surrounding the slough and created wetlands area providing protection for native wildlife. The proposed habitat area would include a perimeter walkway with a kiosk or interpretive signs at vantage points to view native flora and fauna.
The project would also include pedestrian and roadway improvements, including a proposed extension of Fourth Street into the site, connecting to and terminating at Waterfront Drive; and the proposed extension of Second Street into the site, connecting to and terminating at the Fourth Street extension. Additional access would be provided via driveway access from the Sixth Street and Broadway intersection. The project would also include the construction of a landscaped pedestrian and bicycle path parallel to Waterfront Drive, as well as landscaping throughout the site. On-site landscaping would incorporate native plants, ranging from restored slough and wetland aquatic plants to upland trees, shrubs, and grasses indigenous to the region. Figure III-2 presents an illustrative project site plan.
The four parcels which roughly make up the tract of land know as the Balloon Track have an existing general plan land use designation of Public/Quasi Public (PQP) with a corresponding zoning designation of Public (P). Five of the existing remaining parcels have an existing land use designation of Light Industrial (LI) with a corresponding zoning designation of Limited Industrial (ML). The last two parcels have an existing land use designation of Highway Service Commercial (HSC) with a corresponding zoning designation of Service Commercial (CS).
The project proposes to amend the certified Local Coastal Program (LCP) to a combination of designations that include General Service Commercial (GSC), Professional Office (PO), Waterfront Commercial (WFC), Limited Industrial (LI), and Water Conservation (WC). The LCP amendments would include amendments to both the Land Use Plan, which is the relevant portion of the local general plan, and the Implementation Plan, which includes the zoning ordinance and zoning district maps.
The proposed project design would draw from the site’s maritime and industrial heritage, as well as from the contemporary influences of the Eureka waterfront, Old Town and downtown areas. Development of the site would seek to maximize views of Clark Slough, as well as Humboldt Bay, the small-boat marina, and the developing waterfront west of the site.
Lead Agency/Contact Person:
City of Eureka
Community Development Department
Sidnie L. Olson, AICP
Principal Planner
531 K Street
Eureka, CA 95501-1165
Phone: (707) 441-4265
Fax: (707) 441-4202
E-mail: solson@ci.eureka.ca.gov
Send written comments via ‘snailmail’ to Sidnie Olson at the address above, submit email comments to DEIRcomments@ci.eureka.ca.gov
The project file is available for review during regular office hours at the City of Eureka Community Development Department. The Draft Environmental Impact Report is available for review during regular office hours at the City of Eureka Community Development Department at 531 “K” Street in Eureka, and also at the following locations:
Humboldt County Library, Main Branch
Humboldt County Branch Libraries in Arcata, Blue Lake, Ferndale, Fortuna, Garberville, Hoopa, McKinleyville, Rio Dell, Trinidad and Willow Creek
Humboldt State University Library
College of the Redwoods Library
Humboldt County Community Services Development Department, 3015 H Street, Eureka
The Draft EIR will also be available at the City of Eureka’s website.
The potential significant environmental effects anticipated as a result of the project include effects related to air quality and transportation. The following categories of impacts were determined, after any mitigation, to be less than significant: Aesthetics, Agricultural Resources, Biological Resources, Cultural Resources, Geology, Soils, and Seismicity, Hazards and Hazardous Materials, Hydrology and Water Quality, Mineral Resources, Noise, Population and Housing, Public Services, Recreation, Urban Decay, Utilities and Service Systems.
This is not a notice of public hearing. Future public hearings regarding this project will be duly noticed as required by law.
Word is Thompson is on the short list for Sec. of Interior.
There’s a short bus joke in there somewhere.
Don’t forget to remove the link to the Eureka Reporter in your sidebar.
Heraldo, check out this LA Times story, outlining a recent forecast of longer-term dropoffs in West Coast shipping. This may give the ports of LA/Long Beach an economic cold, so to speak, but it really undermines the business plan for a container port with supporting rail here in Humboldt.
It will take at least 10 years to actually build a functioning marine terminal. The business cycle just might be different by then. Or we can all drink the Kool Aid now and just give up.
Saying “drink the Kool Aid” is an homage to Jim Jones.
While you’re updating links, the one to SoHum Parlance is out of date too.
Thanks for the reminder.
Talk about casting against type! Sean Penn as Harvey Milk? Ha!
As often happens, I laughed too soon. Sean Penn seems to have a deeper understanding of Harvey Milk than I thought he did, per his comments tonight on the Charlie Rose program on PBS.
Milk is getting great reviews. I look forward to seeing it.
Olphart:
Had you actually read the story I linked to above, you would have noted that the issue is not just the business cycle. It is the widening of the Panama Canal. Once that is done, modern “post-Panamax” size vessels can go directly to Gulf and Atlantic ports, instead of LA/Long Beach to rail. 10 years from now the business cycle will indeed be in a different place, but ocean shipping will remain cheaper than rail, and a widened Panama canal will take business away from West Coast ports. And this will manifest most strongly at the least economic West Coast ports with the most lengthy rail link — Humboldt.
Panama Canal widening, taken together with massive investment in new container port infrastructure in British Columbia and in Mexico, and likely higher petroleum prices in the future, means that investment in container port infrastructure *and* rebuilding the freight rail link is highly speculative and risky. We should instead focus on investigating short-haul barge traffic, sustaining our commercial fishing fleet, and promoting recreation and tourism. We should also have a healthy skepticism for any proposal assuming a massive increase in cruise ship visits without a proportionate investment in tourism assets in the region.
Shoppers became irate when told the Wal-Mart store would be closing. The store was closing because hundreds of shoppers had trampled one of its employees to death.
A policeman Jdimytai Damour had tried to prevent the crowd from breaking through the front doors and streaming into the store.
Which artist is going to design the Obama Dime?
Working people have pretty effectively been required to be honest. To pay all our bills and pay them on time. Not now and again, but every month of our lives.
What gives these modern-day gods of Wall Street and Washington, D. C. the right to live as if exempt from the LAW?
If I steal from you, I go to prison. If THEY steal from all Americans, they get to keep everything they have already stolen.
This is the stuff of which revolutions are made.
Check out Maureen Dowd’s column today at the NYTimes.
“But then in October, Dean Singleton, The Associated Press’s chairman and the head of the MediaNews Group — which counts The Pasadena Star-News, The Denver Post and The Detroit News in its stable of 54 daily newspapers — told the Southern Newspaper Publishers Association that his company was looking into outsourcing almost every aspect of publishing, including possibly having one news desk for all of his papers, “maybe even offshore.”
Noting that most preproduction work for MediaNews’s papers in California is already outsourced to India, cutting costs by 65 percent, Singleton advised, “If you need to offshore it, offshore it,” and said after the speech, “In today’s world, whether your desk is down the hall or around the world, from a computer standpoint, it doesn’t matter.”
It will matter a lot if he loses his subscribers. I’m sure many Humboldters won’t subscribe to a “local” newspaper printed or edited in a foreign place, be it New York or New Delhi.
Singleton’s devious plans got play on the local blogs and in the Journal a couple weeks ago. Good to see his foul ways are being watched.
H-
is the link above broken? Singleton needs to be in everyones scope, he is on scale with Hurwitz.
No, it works, but the html was messy. It’s fixed now.
they have finally called it for what it is- Recession in U.S. Started in December 2007, NBER Says
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=aWOWWB3VGDCg&refer=home
how about a list of predictions for 2009 from the herald.
My understanding is that recessions are always slow in being reported, because it takes quite a bit of time for the data to be gathered and analysed. In other words, it might not be late due to conspiracy.
I heard there was a pot invasion robbery in Cutten or somewhere in Eureka last night- anyone heard anything? Someone died.
Pot grows in homes = trouble
Man shot dead in home invasion
The Times-Standard
Posted: 12/04/2008 09:36:26 AM PST
A home invasion in Cutten Wednesday night left a 27-year-old man dead and a suspect on the run.
Sheriff Deputies responded to reports of gunshots in the 5800 block of Walnut Drive shortly after 9 p.m. Wednesday, and found the victim with a gunshot wound, according to a department press release. Emergency medical personnel were immediately called and transported the victim to a local hospital, where he was later pronounced dead at 11:40 p.m., according to the release.
Full article.
Where did the information come from that they were growing pot? I didn’t read that in the article.
I got the information from a friend of the victim. She said he had a grow. Perhaps she is wrong. I am sure the details will come out later.
I guess there was pot. Now the question is, was it a grow or what? Was the pot being targeted?
Pot is trouble. Nothing against pot itself-it’s fun and a good medicine for some- it just causes so many problems. Legalize it and I bet these problems go away. Actually, greed is the real problem, and not likely to go away.
So an Iraq war veteran gets shot five times in front of his girlfriend in his own house and somehow because he allegedly had a grow this diminishes the despicable nature of this crime. I knew Garret he was a good person. This was wrong in every way.
Murder is a much worse crime than growing pot.
Yet how often murder follows pot growers!
Perhaps obeying the law is not such a bad idea after all.
Changing the law — also not a bad idea.
Leave it to 06em to advocate legalization of murder.
C.A. Rules Attorney Cannot Sue to Defer Repaying Law School Loans
By a MetNews Staff Writer
A Eureka attorney cannot use the federal Higher Education Act to sue his lenders for declining to grant him an economic hardship deferral of student loan repayments, the First District Court of Appeal has ruled.
Explaining that the act’s regulations do not provide a private right of action, Div. Four upheld a trial court’s order sustaining demurrers by lenders Sallie Mae Inc. and EdFund to Steven T. Davies’ complaint without leave to amend, in an opinion ordered published Monday.
Davies obtained federal Stafford student loans from Sallie Mae Inc. and EdFund to fund his education between 1993 and 1997, but sought—and received—deferment of his repayment obligations on economic hardship grounds for seven years following graduation from the New College of California School of Law in 1998.
In connection with his deferment requests, the lenders requested, and Davies provided, verification of his income and economic hardship status for three years in the form of letters from his employer.
However, in 2005 the lenders placed Davies’s loans in default and commenced collection activities, so he filed suit, alleging breach of a contract formed between his employers and the lenders as a result of the letters, to which he was a third-party beneficiary.
Davies further alleged breach of the terms of a promissory note governing the loans with respect to default and acceleration, which stated that the note was to be interpreted “in accordance with the Higher Education Act of 1965…, other applicable federal statutes and regulations, and the guarantor’s policies.”
A Humboldt Superior Court judge sustained the lenders’ demurrers for failure to state a claim, and Davies appealed, but the panel—in an opinion by Presiding Justice Ignazio J. Ruvolo—upheld the trial trial court, noting first that the letters failed to meet the definition of a contract.
Ruvolo rejected Davies’s claim for breach of the promissory note because the claim necessarily required litigation on the federal act, which contains no private right of action.
Citing the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals’ decision in Parks School of Business, Inc., v. Symington (1995) 51 F.3d 1480, he wrote that Congress intended an action by the Secretary of Education to be the exclusive means for ensuring a lender’s compliance with the act.
“By alleging misconduct for refusing to grant Davies a continued deference or forbearance of loan repayment, Davies seeks to litigate the issue of whether he should have been granted a forbearance or deferment,” Ruvolo wrote.
“This he cannot do, since the Code of Federal Regulations governs forbearances or deferments, and enforcement of the same is left to the Secretary.”
Davies, who unsuccessfully ran for a seat on Humboldt Bay Municipal Water District this year, could not be reached for comment.
Justices Patricia K. Sepulveda and Maria P. Rivera joined Ruvolo in his opinion.
The case is Davies v. Sallie Mae, Inc., 08 S.O.S. 6503.
On Tuesday December 9, 2008 during the 9am board of supes calendar there are three items during closed session. Evaluation of county counsel; appointment of the permanent position of county counsel AND the whether to raise the salaries of county counsel and deputy county counsels.
NOW WHAT IS UP WITH THE BOARD POSTING A FIFTEEN MINUTE SPECIAL MEETING AT 8:45 AM THE SAME DAY FOR THESE SAME THREE ITEMS?
Could it be they have already decided and want to make it formal without allowing anyone in the public to comment on it?
Yes. That’s it. They are fiendishly clever and they work full-time to thwart the people’s will. Curse them! Curses, I say!
From what I read at the Times Standard blog, the way to be popular in HumCo is to sell marijuana. The only downside is possibly getting shot in your own home.
Office Depot to Close 112 North American Stores, Cut 2,200 Jobs
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aqtyg8nhZ3.I&refer=home
Why is the MSM telling us everything about poor Caylee and almost nothing about the other children who turn up missing every day?
Maybe it would be helpful for the newest QuickNotes entry to be listed at the top, rather than at the bottom.
Throw your shoes at Bush.
http://play.sockandawe.com/
CNN gave the right-wing fanatical hate-monger and televangelist Rev. Pat Robertson a national soap-box today. Robertson says he is “remarkably pleased” with Obama. Comments, anyone?
HAVE A PEACEFUL DAY!
have a peaceful day,
Bill
Did anyone besides me watch the rebroadcast of the Fortuna City Council meeting. Berti commented on the attempt by Eureka to pry more TOT tax out of Fortuna to support the Visitors and Convention Bureau.
To paraphrase Berti, “It will be a snowy day in Hell….”
So Councilman Jones, let us see your negotiation skills at work in the “Friendly City”.
Jones better gitty up his chaps and a pony to wrangle those cowboys down nare in Fortuna.
Driving while texting will be illegal in California starting in January. But it doesn’t really matter. As anyone can see, the current law against operating hand-held cell phones while driving is being ignored by selfish drivers whose personal convenience is more important to them than the safety of other people on the road alongside them.
What I’d like to know is why nobody in America is asking the richest and most powerful people in our nation, now that they have fallen upon hard times, “Why don’t you pick yourselves up by your boot-straps?”
They’ve been telling working people to do that for hundreds of years. I think it is high time they followed their own advice.
Heraldo –
I just read the intro to your Quick Notes.
The Humboldt Herald has long wished for a sidebar widget that would allow discussion of off-topic subjects without hogging space in the main post section or derailing on-subject comment threads.
Check out WP-Wall. It’s widget-based and does the job.
Ahh crap, you know, i don’t know if wordpress.com lets you install plugins.. Probably not. I’m all spoiled with my domain and WP installation.
Yeah, no plug-ins for wordpress.com.
I need to improve on the Quick Notes thing, as people are asking for. Perhaps an archive in the side bar.
Ok! I figured it out. The Quick Notes link below the header is a fresh one. No more scrolling down through 100’s of comments to say what you gotta say.
This thread is now dated and located in the “About” section in the side bar below the Archives.