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WHICH Humboldt County money bag got all up in Eureka City Councilman Larry Glass’s face last night at Eureka’s poshest eatery during a Coastal Commission shindig?
UPDATE: Here’s an excerpt of the KHUM interview with Larry Glass courtesy of KHUM and BalloonTrackWatch.org.
2nd UPDATE: More clips from the KHUM interview: Is Arkley having Larry followed? and “Don’t vote against me.”
3rd UPDATE: The full KHUM interview with Larry Glass.
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I heard Mr. A allowed a few cocktails to get the best of him.
Well there’s a first.
“If the Marina Center doesn’t fly he will take everyone down” is how I heard it.
A bully with money and penchant for temper tantrums. Priceless.
Arkley reportedly committed assault, battery and some other crimes through his personal and public threatening and shoving of council member Larry Glass. Maybe a day or two in the Pink House would improve Mr. Arkley’s citizenship.
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Even though assault and battery are often charged together. assault is often defined as a separate crime from battery.
The definition of assault is described as “the unlawful attempt to violently injure another person.” Various types of behavior are included in the definition of assault – even threats and attempts to physically injure someone would qualify as an assault (provided the alleged assault victim was aware of the threat).
The definition of battery is described as the “unwanted touching of another person, or anything connected to that person.” Considered offensive, a the definition of battery includes an intended act and without consent (permission) of the person being affected. Battery is forceful and/or violent. The primary difference between assault and battery is that battery requires more than merely the verbal threat of harm.
Yeah, well it is nice to see it happen in front of such a great audience. Obviously it got everyone’s attention as the incident seems to be the talk of the town. Wonder if it will be covered in the Reporter?
Do we have a first person account of what happened that can give us more detail?
So there were witnesses? I hope Larry calls the police and presses charges. That behavior is just not socially or legally acceptable.
Larry would have to want to press charges. But it sounds like both assault and batter apply.
I heard it was inside the restaurant (Avalon?) full of folks.
The Coastal Commission is having a 3-day affair in Humboldt County with Commissioners in Eureka from all over California. What an audience for an Arkley freak-out.
Arkleycation? Ha!
Well they needed an “anchor” for the event and got one.
Maybe he was acting as spokesperson for the Eureka Coalition for Jobs.
Hil-Larry-ous!
HELP!
I hope it gets lots of press!
Okay… just got a second hand report quoting someone who was there. Mr. A did lots of shoving. Had to be pulled away by one of his top execs. Told the City Council person he better not vote against the Marina Center or he (Mr. A) will destroy him.
There were a number of named witnesses.
For the record… there were over a dozen witnesses to this “discussion” between the two parties.
Rob Arkley asked Larry Glass to apologize for offending his two daughters, the family name and all the anti-Arkelyville “stuff” Larry openly sells at The Works.
Larry declined the apology.
Rob returned the favor and told him what he thought of the City Councilman and his “open mind” when it comes to certain citizens and a specific development project.
At no time was there any physical altercation from either party.
So let’s squelch the rumors before they morph into a life of their own.
Imagine the possibilities… Civitas!
“At no time was there any physical altercation from either party.”
Wrong-o! According to witnesses, there was! Moi heard it correctly.
Looking forward to the ER report, with the appropriate disclaimer, of course.
If Larry files a complaint, it will be public record. Have any of you news hounds called the EPD or even the city attorney’s office?
Marina Center — for the Environment! for Jobs! for the Community!
…or we will Destroy You.
Those that were there will beg to differ about trying to deny the physical assault. Rob Arkley did indeed assault Larry, both verbally and physically as he pushed him repeatedly Rob had to be physically restrained.
I think you have to chalk this up to Rob not being able to handle his alcohol, but this is not the first time he has done something like this
So nice try Anonymous 12:25 but there were too many witnesses to make this go away.
Been a while since Mr. A has been allowed out of his cage. Good to see him being part of the community again.
I wonder if the DA will accept a plea bargain?
“Currently, more than 225 people employed at Security National’s Eureka headquarters. While the company has grown to a multi-billion dollar enterprise, it remains a “family” business proud of the quality of its people, their professionalism, integrity and commitment to service.”
Moi has it right. At least a dozen people heard Rob say “He (Glass) had better not vote against the Marina Center or he (Arkley) will destroy him.”
Also we all watched him shove Larry more than once.
I don’t think you can expect to see an objective account of this in the Eureka Reporter. Simms? Are you there?
A “family business” — like the Sopranos?
Larry said he was assaulted on KHUM today. The po po will be contacted.
Mike Dronkers from KHUM just sent me a clip of the interview. Larry corroborated what Moi said above. Arkley threatened to “destroy” Larry if he didn’t vote for his Marina Center “project.” Larry said Arkley shoved him twice and “put his weight into it” and that Larry would have been knocked to the ground if he hadn’t saw it coming. He said the city attorney recommended he file a police report and that he will file one.
Where’s the clip?
I will be playing an excerpt from Mike’s interview at 1:50ish on KSLG 94.1 FM.
Well, well, well. I got a whole stack of quarters for this jukebox.
Mr. A’s decision to drop his bar card is sure looking prescient.
From a political/cultural point of view, the last thing Rob wanted to do was turn the Balloon Track fight into a referendum on his personal qualities. Or lack thereof. Power corrupts self-restraint, evidently, along with everything else.
Those of us not all that excited about having a waterfront Home Desperate might just pool our funds and make sure Rob’s got an open tab everywhere in Humboldt.
Another vodka tonic, Mr. Arkeley? I don’t mean to alarm you, but I heard that old hippie in the corner naysaying the Marina Center…
OK, make that 1:54ish.
Well the interview from KHUM says it all.
California Penal Code Section 71
Every person who, with intent to cause, attempts to cause, or causes, any officer or employee of any public or private educational institution or any public officer or employee to do, or refrain from doing, any act in the performance of his duties, by means of a threat, directly communicated to such person, to inflict an unlawful injury upon any person or property, and it reasonably appears to the recipient of the threat that such threat could be carried out, is guilty of a public offense punishable as follows:
(1) Upon a first conviction, such person is punishable by a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000), or by imprisonment in the state prison, or in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by both such fine and imprisonment.
(2) If such person has been previously convicted of a violation of this section, such previous conviction shall be charged in the accusatory pleading, and if such previous conviction is found to be true by the jury, upon a jury trial, or by the court, upon a court trial, or is admitted by the defendant, he is punishable by imprisonment in the state prison.
As used in this section, “directly communicated” includes, but is not limited to, a communication to the recipient of the threat by telephone, telegraph, or letter.
Jen, you need to put that clip on rotation. Stunning.
Isn’t there some sort of violation for threatening a public figure. Seems that Arkley’s special form of persuasion should be made an example of. With so many eye witnesses, an obviously PO’ed Larry Glass and a man with a reputation for being always being on the winning side of shady, under the table deals — this could be just the opportunity the anti-Arkley camp has been waiting for. Go get ’em T-S.
Penal Code 71….
Damn, Moi beat me to it!
H – could you give us a transcript of Larry’s statement?
Heh.
Well done, Jen! We listened to KHUM. Well done! Great clip from Larry.
He’s up to a couple of years or so…
Bet he’s on his private plane to NOLA as we speak…..
If you or I or any average citizen in Humboldt County pushed and shoved and threatened a City Councilman in a public place, would we not be prosecuted?
And think of what this says to other local elected officials. Or for that matter any business person who has worries about the Marina Center.
Is this the same Rob Arkley who told Mr. Salzman he would destroy him? And didn’t he do it?
Larry Glass had better watch his back.
And we’d better help him watch his back.
Good sentiments, 2:42, but the truth is it’s Larry who has our back.
Where can I find the interview? Is there a link? A special handshake? (BTW, I don’t have an iPod.)
KHUM is going to replay it again, so tune in. I’m working on figuring out how to post it.
I appreciate your sentiments also, 2:42.
However I don’t think Richard Salzman feels destroyed.
He laid off 30 people in his Louisiana office in the past 2 weeks.
His financing partners are likely up his butt every day.
He looks like he has lost a ton of weight in the past month.
And of course his drinking is way up.
Is it any wonder he lost it on a political opponent last night?
Heraldo – I’ll post it for you.
Subprime mortgage, anyone?
Boy, this is the biggest item to hit blogland in a long time!
Just when we were missing those exciting days of the recall…
Here is the short version courtesy of Heraldo:
Glass interview short version
Do not ask for whom the bell tolls, Rob Arkley.
It tolls for thee.
Just got off the phone with Larry.Unreal.In summary,was called a liar many times,shoved twice,told he was going to be destroyed in he doesn’t go along with his project.
Of course, I overstated the case. Richard Salzman was not destroyed in spite of Arkley’s transparent and powerful efforts to destroy him.
Arkley thinks he is powerful enough to destroy the careers of other people here. Who knows how many local leaders he has threatened to destroy? We only have documentation of his threats against two.
If he threatens our elected representatives, we need to tell him to back off.
People here don’t like well-financed efforts to ram private agendas down our throats. The voters here made that clear when Maxxam tried to buy the District Attorney’s office and failed. I think Arkley is fighting a losing battle against Eureka City Councilman Larry Glass.
And Larry has gained quite a bit of respect after 9 months on the Council. Lot’s of folks seem to think he is doing a better job than they imagined he would.
First Larry Craig, now Rob Arkley. Republicans and their unauthorized touching. Yech.
Moi. You hit it on the head. I am amazed at the people who tell me how much they appreciate Larry Glass on the Council. And I mean conservatives….conservatives who are not even political.
I hope the Mayor has something to say about this.
Pushing people around and physically assaulting them for holding a different political opinion? This is starting to sound like Kevin Hoover and Bob Ornleas assaulting the same local resident for the crime of exposing corruption in Arcata. I just love hearing the liberal double standard on this kind of crap. Bob’s foot stomping incident at a city council meeting even made the paper, not that any of these so-called moral lefties took much of an interest then. Hypocrites!!!
I predict Larry Glass’ bank account will increase substantially in the near future.
GO LARRY GO!!!
Uh, right.
Me thinks the Arkloids are monitoring the comments extra close tonight.
5:15 is funky on the junk.
“First Larry Craig, now Rob Arkley. Republicans and their unauthorized touching. Yech.”.
Bottom line: The attack seems to be all about Republicans. It seems to be a partisan fight.
I think someone was trying to be funny, Fred. Do you think Arkley’s behavior is okay or something? It’s okay for a billionaire developer to hit a city council member and to threaten to “destroy” them??
“Bottom line: The attack seems to be all about Republicans. It seems to be a partisan fight.”
Well when has someone threatened to destroy Mike Jones or Virginia,and has had them followed?About the argument than can come out of that is maybe Mike was threatened by that peacock.
It’s a partisan fight because the one side is doing the fighting.
I should have wrote,the only argument.
It will be fun to see how our dip-shit D.A. handles this one.
Kudos to Heraldo for disseminating this amazing news.
So Larry will file a police report. How does the process go from there?
1. Will Larry have to formally press charges, or is that a part of filing a police report?
2. After the EPD investigates and builds a case, it goes to the DA to decide whether to pursue a misdemeanor or felony case against Mr. Robin Arkley Jr. — right?
If the second point is true, then it will ultimately be up to Mr. Gallagos — interesting. It will require some, er, cojones for our DA to pursue such a case. Hmmm … tempting to drag one’s feet on such a significant decision.
Perhaps the Eureka Reporter could run a daily feature like the T-S does regarding the Moore case. Wouldn’t that be a hoot?
If it comes to that, perhaps this would be a case that Gallegos would hand to the Attorney General. Arkley was a major contributor in Gallegos’ first campaign and in the recall.
Well it may not be smart for Larry to press any charges because he’d have to recuse himself on some potential conflict of interest issues.
California Penal Code 71-I’m certainly a lawman here,but I think that any person can press charges.Probably smarter to go to the AG’s office.Gallegos doesn’t want to go through another witch hunt against him.
Ah Mark, I dont think there are any rebubs out there condoning this. Though I am a dem, I lean towards the Mike Thompson middle of the road,.
For those of you making this a partisan issue and calling out Bass and Jones on this, that is just ridiculous. Whether you voted for Virginia Bass or not, she has handled herself with grace and dignity.
Rob Arkley represents Republicans about as much as Al Sharpton represents Democrats.
Rob Arkely’s behavior, if true (and I suspect that it is), is boorish at best…
Hank and mresquan raise good points. While on one level it seems far-fetched to bring in the AG’s office on a local assault/battery case, on the other level this is *very* high stakes all around.
Will Glass be asked to recuse himself just because he was a target for violence by a project proponent seeking action by the City of Eureka? Should he?
And where does this leave the Marina Center project? What outsider could have run this project onto the rocks as quickly and effectively as Arkley has himself? Is SN under pressure from the subprime mortgage crisis, as was alluded to by a contributor above?
Seems like it will be nearly impossible for the Eureka City Council to evaluate the Marina Center project with any objectivity after this.
Doc, its doubtful that SN is “under pressure from the subprime mortgage crisis”. If anything, SN, which makes its money by servicing distressed loans, could potentially make do well by picking up a bunch of these loans.
Like the Marina Center project or not, I doubt this will affect it negatively, other than the bad press Rob Arkley will likely (and deservedly) garner. The project will succeed or fail on its merits, and whether or not it gets the zoning changes approved by the City and the Coastal Commission.
Come on… The most that has been alleged is some spiteful words and a couple shoves. It would be absurd to prosecute _anyone_ for shoving.
Yo… Some interesting points. I’m not convinced about SN and subprime mortgages, but perhaps you have inside information? As a sidebar on that crisis, there was rampant underpricing of risk in the packaging of these loans into MBS’s and other related products that SN could easily have paid too much for, so my query wasn’t an idle or a wholly uninformed one. But you may have inside information. Can you share?
My query about the Marina Center project isn’t particularly idle either. In a perfect world it would stand or fall on its merits. In the world we live in, where the protagonist threatens to destroy a member of the EKA City Council if he doesn’t support the project, I am not convinced you are right. But who knows?
Doc,
Nope, no inside information, just a background in finance…
Good point regarding the threats to destroy a member of the council if the project isnt supported. The thing is, it’s not a Rob Arkley project. (cue laughter here) It’s a project of Security National. Granted, he may be, ( and most likely is, the majority shareholder) but I’m not so sure it as cut and dry as you might think.
8:09, it may be in your words “absurd” to prosecute, but it was downright foolish to give his political opponents the fodder on which to feast for the next five years.
They don’t need to prosecute. He will be convicted in the court of public opinion.
“Rob Arkley represents Republicans about as much as Al Sharpton represents Democrats.”
Oh, really???
Rob was the single largest contributor to the John Thune campaign in South Dakota when Thune unseated Tom Daschle. Was it 2002?
If that isn’t enough for you, try searching for the name Arkley on the opensecrets.org site. The Arkleys and their daughters spend lots of money each year that is donated exclusively (or nearly exclusively) to Republican candidates all around the country.
The altercation being discussed here has more complex (and local) roots than an RvsD debate. I agree with you there, Yo, but don’t think for one minute that the Arkleys are simply business people who donate to all candidates to have access to whoever wins. They donate to Republicans. I think you can assume, based on that evidence, that they are partisan Republicans.
Just in case folks aren’t seeing the updated links at the top of the page:
Is Arkley having Larry followed?
Don’t vote against me
Full Larry Glass interview on KHUM
6em, Why, YES. REALLY.
Gee, I realize R.A. donates scads of $$$$ to Repub candidates.
So, 6em, you are saying that Al Sharpton is a good
representative of Dems as a whole?
I think you misunderstand my point.
Should I substitute Norman Hsu for Al Sharpton?
I indeed realize that the Arkley’s are Republicans. I doubt he is representative of them on the whole.
Do you think that Al “I believe Tawana Brawley, let’s inject the Race Card into everything” Sharpton is a good representative of Dem on the whole?
I heard tonight there were a few local politicos in earshot of the tussle. They apparently were quite shocked and seemed to agree with Larry’s take on what happened.
6em,
I went back and re-read my response to your post. It was a bit too snippy. I apologize…(just jumped at the “oh really”)
But I do think you misread my point, which is that as the partisan republicans that you rightly portray them as, they are hardly representative of republicans on the whole…
Anyway, it’s late (for me)and my snarky response was unwarranted…
No. Otherwise such bullying tactics would be successful. Whatever the criminal outcome of this event, Arkley’s violent, out of control behavior does not deserve to be rewarded.
Glass will have to recuse himself because he already is on record not supporting this project before it was in front of the council and also having a conflict of interest.
No, he will not have to recuse himself.
Glass will have to recuse himself because he doesn’t support the Arkley project? Maybe the big A does own this town.
“..violent, out of control behavior” ah, the ever present and anonymous Heraldo making the latest inflammatory statement.
Hank Simms and the Times Standard went out of their way to “out” Captain Buhne.
Why is Heraldo given a pass? Just because he is left of Mao?
Who is this Heraldo? Larry Evans? Dr. Ken (I hate the EPD) Miller of McKinleyville? Another member of EPIC?
And why does he not disclose his name for all to see. Step out from behind the Internet curtain oh great wizard. Let us all see and judge who thee really is in Humboldt County.
Word on the street is that Arkley issued a press release…
Anyone have a copy of this?
“Come on… The most that has been alleged is some spiteful words and a couple shoves. It would be absurd to prosecute _anyone_ for shoving.”
I think you are missing the point. Forever people have been saying that Arkley has used more than a few unethical tactics to sway public figures to with the power to make or break the Marina Center. I mean we’re talking threats of destruction, free private trips on his jet, the financing of puppet politicians, a free trip to his swanky hunting lodge … he has been buying people off to get his way and he will stop at nothing. Arkley lovers, wake up. If you have half a brain you will realize that nothing in life is given for free. Eating from the Arkley gravy trough may make you happy right now, but we’ll all pay the price in the end.
He doesn’t own Larry.
I made it back to the reception. Did I miss much, Heraldo?
i was for the marina center. now i am AGAINST any development on that property…EVER!!!!!! i wouldnt tell the EPD either, they are arkeleys killing crew. they will shoot larry first, then try to cover it up saying he was on LSD……..this town needs some shakin up
Expect Arkley to use his newspaper to try to spin this incident to suggest he was provoked or something. Hopefully all the witnesses will make this more difficult this time. Look at the Eureka Reporter’s constant manipulation of the news through sensationalist headlines, and ill tempered editorials by the number one thug there, Glenn Franco Simmons. Verbally attacking a public figure is simply stupid, but threatening one and physically laying hands one is serious. I hope charges are filed, and Arkley is held accountable. He is a bully, and this time has gone too far.
So if you are Rob Arkley Jr, where do you go from here?
1. Ham-handed misdirection: Like anon. 9:47 above, blame the media, the restaurant, the liberals, …?
2. Stay away: Hunker down in Baton Rouge, don’t answer the door or the phone, or maybe take a long vacation an ocean or two away from warrant-servers?
3. Fabricate: Massive denial and creation of a Bush-style alternative reality of events? “I was trying to give Larry a hug and he misinterpreted me….”
4. Blame the alcohol: Apology, AA, rehab, find Jesus?
5. Buy a solution: Offer Larry $100 and a lifetime membership at the Competitive Enterprise Institute.
Good question, Amaz’d
Practically speaking, I think #4 with a big dose of Jeebus is all he’s got that could really help. But even then the Marina Center is still the Jerk’s Palace.
(Hey! That’s it — the Asshole Center for the Performing Arts!)
But this is Arkley we’re talking about, so we know he isn’t going to do that. I’m betting on a ham-handed combination of sulking, skulking and pushback, a combination of 1 and 2.
To be honest, I wonder sometimes if we’ve even scratched the surface of Rob Arkley. Given the pile of money he’s driving, his obvious thirst for power, and the relatively large amounts he gives to the most extreme Republican candidates — remember Ralph Reed? — I gotta wonder if we’ve seen anything yet. If he could just learn to stay calm and work through his puppets, he could do a lot worse before we could really hope to stop him.
…and speaking of anon 9:47 above, odds are it’s just Stephen. Ignore him and he eventually pipes down.
(& Yo! – between you, me, and Mr. Arkley’s lamp-post, I would implore you to drop the habit of addressing H as “Mark”. That’s just another variant on Stephen’s stupid projection thing, and it’s not much less annoying. Particularly since Mark does sign his postings, which are clearly in his calm, analytic voice. I don’t know why you dislike him, but at least give him cred for being non-anon.)
I kind of agree with the suggestion we are in a way lucky that Jr. flames out once in a while. He is a very powerful and dangerous man.
I see the local radicals are drinking the Kool-Aid again. Now if they can only organize a respectable anti-Iraq war protest.
“Arkley has used more than a few unethical tactics to sway public figures to with the power to make or break the Marina Center.”
Before spouting off lies and innuendos, please document the facts how Rob Arkley “has used more than a few unethical tactics to sway public figures”.
Fact is Larry Glass sold Anti-Arkleyville stickers out of his The Works store and you can still see them there on his walls today.
“I mean we’re talking threats of destruction…”
Destruction of what? Common sense?
“…free private trips on his jet”
Nothing in life is free.
Who got a free trip on the jet? Family, friends, employees?
I happen to know a lot of people in town who took free jet trips, but not one single person who ever votes on local issues.
“…the financing of puppet politicians”
Name me one politician from Sacramento to D.C. who doesn’t have his/her hand out for a check, (left or right – they’re both equal slime to me).
Didn’t Hillary just give back some campaign contributions from a liberal who was convicted on crimes?
From the nytimes.com – “Clinton Donor (Norman Hsu) Under a Cloud in Fraud Case”
And what’s up with ABC not releasing the DVD of “Path To 911”?
Seven Emmy noms and no DVD release?
Say it’s not so to a ABC Hollywood-Jewish liberal conspiracy by Hillary supporters before the 2008 election.
“…a free trip to his swanky hunting lodge”
Most of Rob’s hunting lodge excursions are given to his family, close friends and employees or auctioned off at local charity events.
You too can purchase a week up at the lodge in Alaska. At the last Miranda’s Rescue auction a one week stay for two (airfare not included) went for $14,000. Bring your checkbook.
“…he has been buying people off to get his way”
And I can tell by your writing style that Rob bought your brain cells.
Or was it the drugs?
Either way blogs bring out the worst in radicals (both ends of the spectrum).
An anonymous way to spill forth your hate and venom without much logic or facts.
Get a job.
Buy your own damn jet.
And quit smoking so damn much weed. You’re getting paranoid, dude.
I think he meant mresquan, the other Mark.
If I were Larry Glass I would worry about being wrapped in a Concrete Kimono and dumped in the bay. Arkley is capable of carrying out his threats, which is why he needs to file that police report.
ahh. oops.
er, thanks, H.
Yo – my bad. I hereby tender one heartfelt librul apology.
(Can I talk about how I feel now?)
Any future decisions by the Coastal Commission or the Eureka City Council on the Marina Center project will seem questionable in lieu of the loaded, millionaire businessman, who bullied an elected official with physical violence and threats to his livelihood. Were they intimidated into making that decision? If the City Attorney doesn’t recommend prosecuting Arkley over the matter, then is the city negligent for any further injuries Glass may receive from Arkley? “Tailing”, alone, is a pretty dubious action not to mention the rest. How does one know that this is indeed the climax between Glass and Arkley?
The city attorney recommended Larry file a police report.
anon 10:55
“fact is larry glass sells anti-arkelyville wares at his stores”
Anon, you obviously support violence and threats…..or do you work for ol’ rob jr? either way, i can see why you post as anonymous
Pretty sure the stickers were free. The shirts were sold for cost.
Yep. Straight from the horses mouth:
good. its a free country. now the stickers mean more to me
rob supports free trade right?
From the ER:
Glass claims Arkley pushed him
by Wendy Butler, 9/6/2007
A California Coastal Commission reception held at Eureka’s Avalon restaurant Wednesday became the site of an alleged confrontation between Eureka City Councilmember Larry Glass and Eureka business owner Rob Arkley.
Glass told The Eureka Reporter Thursday he’s still in “shock.”
He said he felt Arkley’s impetus for confronting him Wednesday had to do with Security National’s proposed mixed-use Marina Center, which is slated for the “Balloon Track,” an old rail yard located between Washington and Commercial streets along Waterfront Drive.
As previously reported in The Eureka Reporter, the Coastal Commission will have the final word on whether the city of Eureka can change the parcel’s current “public” designation to “commercial,” to allow for the Marina Center’s blend of offices and retail, including SN’s planned anchor store The Home Depot.
SN Vice President of Real Estate and Development Randy Gans was at the Wednesday reception and spoke Thursday on Arkley’s behalf about the supposed altercation taking place at a Coastal Commission reception, which might seem ironic to some.
“They both happened to be at the same place at the same time,” he said in an e-mail response.
When reached by phone Thursday, Glass alleged Arkley was angry and physically pushed him twice.
“Larry distributed materials that personally attack the Arkley family and have been particularly hurtful to his wife and children,” Gans said.
Glass told The Eureka Reporter he at one time carried “anti-Arkleyville” stickers and T-shirts at his store The Works. The stickers, he said, were free. He sold the T-shirts at cost.
Before he was a council member, Glass had been spokesperson for Citizens For Real Economic Growth, which had voiced its opposition to locating a Home Depot on the Balloon Track. It also held a number of community forums and in 2006 created a TV advertisement decrying the Balloon Track’s toxic contamination.
Glass said after Arkley’s daughters came to his store and spoke to him of their concerns, he took the anti-Arkley materials out.
He said at the reception he attempted to have a “dialogue” with Arkley.
Glass said Arkley called him a “liar.”
Glass further alleged Arkley said he was “going to destroy me.”
“If I voted against his project, I wouldn’t have a business anymore,” Glass said.
Further, he said, Arkley allegedly told him he had “been paying someone to follow me.”
Gans told The Eureka Reporter that is not the case.
He said the reason Arkley referred to Glass as a “liar” stemmed from Glass having told Arkley he removed the materials after the Arkley children visited him, “which is not true.”
“I can assure you this was only a verbal discussion,” Gans said. “Rob is acting as a father and Glass is acting like a publicity-seeking politician.”
SN Senior Vice President Brian Morrissey, also speaking on Arkley’s behalf, said via e-mail, “Rob regrets the strong emotions that were exhibited by both parties and has e-mailed Larry his apology.”
Glass said he was not going to press charges, but he did file an “incident report” with the Eureka Police Department.
Eureka Police Chief Garr Nielsen told The Eureka Reporter the report “documents the fact that there was a verbal altercation and potentially some physical contact.”
He said it ends there unless one of the parties wants to pursue it further.
To anon 9:47 (the first of the three)– I cannot claim the honor of being Heraldo. Thanks for the thought though. While I can understand the need for some folks to post anonymously due to various legitimate reasons, I don’t have any compelling reasons to do so. Besides, it just doesn’t satisfy my sense of Americanism to spout my opinions without taking credit (or blame depending on the audience and subsequent result). Just some strange ideals I got fed in school about democracy that I can’t seem to shake.
Which brings us to tonights subject– the corruption of our American ideals that every person has an equal say in our governance of ourselves, regardless of their tax bracket.
Yeah, I know this country has never fully lived up to our professed principles, but that is the nature of progress (root of progressive) as America keeps reaching for the promise of greatness in freedom that we represent to much of the world and to our own collective self-image. But that is why citizens must always stand up when the bully boys come around to put us under the thumb.
So– thanks Larry Glass for standing up and for never being afraid to say that the emperor has no clothes (and a lousy development plan that will be a detriment to our community rather than a benefit).
To close I offer this fine little poem I heard from U. Utah Phillips ( I think its an old Wobbly rhyme):
The Two Bums
The bum on the rods is hunted down as an enemy of mankind.
The other is driven round to his club, is feted, wined and dined.
And they who curse the bum on the rods as the essence of all that’s bad,
Will greet the other with a winning smile and extend the hand so glad.
The bum on the rods is a social flea who gets an opccasional bite,
The bum on the plush is a social leech– blood suckin’ day and night!
The bum on the rods is a load so light that his weight we scarcely feel,
But it takes the labor of dozens of folks to furnish the other a meal.
As long as we sanction the bum on the plush the other will always be there.
But rid ourselves of the bum on the plush and the other will disappear.
Then make an intelligent, organized kick, get rid of the weights that crush.
Don’t worry about the bum on the rods,
GET RID OF THE BUMS ON THE PLUSH!!!
###
Up Freedom– Down the Tories
I didn’t know Randy Gans was beaten as a child.
And again Larry’s perspective:
Full Larry Glass interview on KHUM
In re: the pathetic puff piece in the Arkley Repeater on the assault and battery by Mr. A perpetrated against our elected representative– reports not paid for by the perp clearly indicate that Mr. A was acting more as a belligerent sot than anything else.
Councilmember Glass should press charges.
I agree. There’s a reason we have a special penal code that addresses assault on public officers with intent to influence how they do their job. This wasn’t a barroom brawl over a pool game.
Rob is no stranger to bullying, threats and intimidation, and it now appears to be escalating. A $10,000 fine would be nothing to him, but he should have to go through the process. The city attorney should insist on it.
12:25. Is that Arkley’s official press release?
Arkley is such a manchild. This is some funny shit though
Larry should press charges after that “story” in the Eureka Reporter.Randy Gans is Arkley little bitch………..what a f&%k’n joke.
Make that “Arkley’s”
“publicity-seeking politician”
Wow. I didn’t get that from the KHUM interview.
It’s interesting to see how much those two newspaper reports differ. Both leave something to be desired.
Larry needs to press charges “for the community”. It is not okay to hit. It is not okay to threaten people with violence if they do not go along with us. Most of us learn these things in grade school, but some bullies won’t quit and get suspended or even expelled from school.
This incident sounds like typical bullying, but takes a very serious turn in the intimidation of a public official by a project applicant. There is only one way to handle a bully – stand up to him (or her). The way to stand up to this one is obviously to file charges. Good luck, Larry. You have immense support.
Response to a comment from last night way upthread:
Yo,
No apology needed, if you accept my appology for misunderstanding your point. It was late, and I read too fast. Thanks for your gracious second response to my comment.
I think half the verbal jousting that happens on local blogs would be eliminated if we were able to view comments nested with their relatives. With this “flat” comment structure, I can only hold a couple comment threads in my noggin at one time, and I start to lose track.
While I now realize that your point was that “not all Republicans are the same,” it has become harder and harder for me to believe there are any differences among the people who continue to identify with the party. Continued loyalty to the Republican Party at this point seems to mean:
1. Unquestioning faith that George W. Bush is a great commander in chief who has the interests of the average citizen in mind in Iraq, and that the only way to support our troops is to support the policies of GWB.
2. Belief that ever increasing spending on wreaking havoc in the Middle East will somehow protect us from a deluded fanatic with a box cutter and a plan.
3. Insisting that we can continue to cut, cut, cut government programs and staffing while cut, cut, cutting taxes without serious detriment to the commons – creating problems like bridge collapse and lead painted toys flooding the market.
4. Insistence that there is one true God whose intentions they know and who wants our government (in His name) to deny females the right to control their own bodies and only wants our scientist to work on an approved list of endeavors.
5. There are more core beliefs of the Republican dead-enders, but these are the particular ones that make me conclude that, at this point, all Republicans are the same. If anyone who still admits to being a Republican has read this far and doesn’t have most of the above beliefs, I have to ask why you still consider yourself a Republican?
Democrats, on the other hand, have a million different opinions about things and aren’t afraid to express them. It is our weakness and, I believe, our great strength.
Right on, 6em!
I shake my head in disbelief when acquaintances of mine that are republicans tell me they just LOVE President Bush. However, I think they really believe all the talk.
I agree with Greg and hope that Larry presses charges.
Greg posted a poll on our blog. Should Glass press charges against Arkley?
Vote here.
Yes. Just think about the out-of-court settlement Glass will get. Maybe already got…
It doesn’t matter that Arkley was drunk. It doesn’t matter that Arkley pushed Glass. What is really important here is that Arkley threated to “destroy” Glass if Glass does not vote for his project. That is the real story here. The rest is just stupid brutishness.
Glass I know you are reading this thread and I gotta say, I am really dissappointed in you. By choosing to not press charges, you are once again letting Arkley get away with the threats and intimidation. Sure it got a lot of press today, but tomorrow or next week it will be yesterday’s news. EVERYONE needs the opportunity to hear about the tactics he uses and with witnesses like you have, there is no way you could lose.
Although the earlier concrete kimono comment was funny, obviously he would never get away with anything like that.
I’m sure there are reasons for your deciding against filing charges, you should tell us so we can understand it.
“Glass will have to recuse himself because he doesn’t support the Arkley project? Maybe the big A does own this town.”
Not because he doesn’t support it, because because he actively has participated (CREG) and lobbied against the project. Conflict of interest works both ways. He has become an ‘interested party’ Just like John Woolley will not be voting on that development in manila.
From Rose’s Blog:”There’s more, though – in one email to a Lumberjack reporter Woolley explains why he might have to recuse himself from voting on the project if he answers her questions…” – when she asked how he felt about the development. I’ll post the email later for your benefit.
Smoke and mirrors. File charges or you become complicit with intimidation, even if you are the victim.
# Anonymous Says:
September 6th, 2007 at 5:15 pm
Pushing people around and physically assaulting them for holding a different political opinion? This is starting to sound like Kevin Hoover and Bob Ornleas assaulting the same local resident for the crime of exposing corruption in Arcata. I just love hearing the liberal double standard on this kind of crap. Bob’s foot stomping incident at a city council meeting even made the paper, not that any of these so-called moral lefties took much of an interest then. Hypocrites!!!
So its ok for an elected official like Mayor Bob to assault a citizen, but not ok for a citizen to assault an elected official? This stinks to high heaven. If Arkley is prosecuted then so should Ornelas be.
Heraldo loves censorship.
Assault is an attempted battery, an intentional act which places a victim in reasonable apprehension of a harmful or offensive contact. Battery requires actual contact. It doesn’t have to be forceful or violent by the way. It need only be harmful or offensive and without consent.
However, if every such incident is prosecuted then the courts will be jammed full. The question, which only those involved can answer, is whether the incident rises to the level of something which should be prosecuted.
Larry would have to want to press charges. But it sounds like both assault and batter apply.
Batter? Was it a bake-off or something? :&)
Well, they were at the food table.
Thank goodness we have the KHUM interview or we would never know what happened from the two daily newspapers. The Times Standard article was seriously lacking in content, and the garbage in the Eureka Reporter looked more like an editorial than real news reporting. Wendy Butler seems to become the new “spin-mistress” over there. They should leave her on the Art Beat. Her serious reporting leaves a lot to be desired.
If any of the conservative council members had an incident happen to them like this,where a member of the public who is drunk pushes them,threatens their career,and tells them that they’re being followed,Dave Tyson would have done whatever he could to have the swat team take down that individual,ASAP.
CREG has not lobbied against the project,they’ve worked to propose altered elements to it.The CREG’ers that I know have no problem seeing it go through with certain modifications.Good luck trying to find the legal innuendo that would force Larry to recuse himself.And would that mean that Larry needs to recuse himself from any issues involving police funding since he’s been active in working with the Problem Oriented Policing program,which will be working to raise money to support the police department?
And maybe in the interest of being “fair and balanced”,Glenn Franco Simmons should file a request ordering chief Nielson to confiscate all of Arkley’s computers in order to investigate who he has paid to follow Larry.
Conflict of interest works both ways.
Conflict of interest is not synonymous with bias. There is only a conflict of interest if Glass has a monetary interest in the outcome.
Glass reportedly said “as long as Best Buy is in the Marina Center – I got a dog in this fight.”
I’d say that is “a monetary interest in the outcome.”
Glass reportedly said “as long as Best Buy is in the Marina Center – I got a dog in this fight.”
Reportedly?
It’s not a legal conflict of interest, and anyway – how would it make Arkley’s intimidating, physical violence and threatened destruction any less real or wrong?
Well it’s been stated that everyone in the city will benefit from it,so then every council member has to recuse themselves if it’s supposedly going to bring some money into the city coffers.And where is Best Buy in the proposal?I can’t find that documentation,please provide that link for me when you have time.I know that it was discussed,but I was under the impression that nothing came about,and it’s not in any documents which I’ve seen.
Four PR tips for Mr. Arkley:
1) Respond to media inquiries yourself when they involve your personal conduct. Using a spokesperson can convey the impression you are embarrassed or have something to hide.
2) Do not lift yourself up by pushing others down. The phrase “publicity-seeking politician” sounds like the speaker is defensive and upset, the same sort of conduct that the public could perceive was at issue in the exchange with Mr. Glass.
3) Too late: Give the newspapers your own professional file photo or they’ll use whatever is available. Your photo in the Eureka Reporter is not complimentary (think: Michael Moore before the beard).
4) It doesn’t matter what the truth is. This is not a legal proceeding. At issue is public perception. Mr. Glass’ KHUM interview was calm and level-headed, and could be paraphrased as, “I had never met the guy; his reaction to me caught me off guard and was confusing; I don’t know why he did what he did.” Meanwhile, through a company employee Mr. Glass was called a “publicity-seeking politician.” Mr. Glass has won the battle for public perception. No editorials or letters will repair this. If the story gains traction in the media, you need to speak.
Anon 9:56 – very good points.
Mresquan, it is only your opinion, that Tyson would send the SWAT team after whoever shoved the councilmember, had they been conservative. Don’t say it as if it is a fact.
You make good points with many of your posts, it’s hard to find them when your posts are filled with hyperbole like this just as often.
Please don’t try and make this a partisan issue of this.
Larry is a city official and shouldnt be harrassed in to voting for anyones project & I went into the Works in Eureka this morning and could not buy any arkleyville stickers or tees because they stop carring them before summer they said. how unfortant.
Anon 10:30
Tyson is at nearly every public event involving the Arkleys. Including all the celebratory ones. He may not be an insider in the Arkley camp, but he is publicly very chummy with Arkley and knows what side his bread is buttered on. News flash: so does everyone else.
That said, this is NOT a partisan issue at all. This is a power issue, a money issue and although Arkley is a staunch republican, I think that if tomorrow his business interests would be best supported by the Dems he would jump ship without hesitation. I’m not saying he’d become a democrat, but he’d support one. The DA is a perfect example of that.
I think the SWAT team reference was intended as hyperbole – ie. an exaggeration to emphasize a point.
But I also think that most conservative pols would let the matter slide, and most conservative anonymous bloggers would be calling for the head of the alleged transgressor. Human nature knows no particular ideology.
Larry is a city official and shouldnt be harrassed in to voting for anyones project & I went into the Works in Eureka this morning and could not buy any arkleyville stickers or tees because they stop carring them before summer they said. how unfortant.
They’re probably going to become collector’s items after this incident.
I’m sorry.I’ll give Tyson the benefit of the doubt here.But i wouldn’t be surprised.
Times-Standard just dumped the comments on the Larry Glass story. Looks like someone with a last name that starts with A made some threatening phone calls.
classic
Eric,
Mr. Esquan inferred that the City Manager would go out of his way to protect a conservative member of the City Council – provide unequal treatment, if you will. Show me where he has ever gone out of his way to provide unequal treatment, especially in a manner as egregious as Mresquan suggests.
I do agree that human nature knows no politcal idealogy.
I myself am conservative, and find Arkley’s behavior deplorable.
The comments go off and on on the TS website. Try refreshing the page. The comments will appear. They have also added the KHUM interview and pictures of Larry and Rob. It is a much nicer picture than the one in the ER.
Eric,
What point is Mresquan trying to emphasize? That Dave Tyson applies different standards of service to his council? If so, please show me where he has done this, especially in a manner as egregious as Mresquan is inferring.
Mresquan may not realize when he posts these types of things, but he is sliming somebody for no good reason, other than perhaps Mr. Tyson tends to lean politically away from him.
I do agree that human nature knows no particular idealogy, and thats exactly why we should keep partisanship out of this. I am conservative myself, and both my husband and I find Rob Arkleys behaviour in this manner deplorable.
I mean the picture of Rob. Larry’s pictures look good in both publications.
oops, I thought I lost my post above and ended up retyping it.
James Faulk, new website editor at the T-S, is having a great time today I’m sure.
I support Larry whatever his decision, but I would encourage him to prosecute. I’m really impressed that he remained so calm about the assault. He’s a good neighbor.
A link to the T-S comments
Hey I apologized for the Tyson reference.But you can’t disagree that conservatives would be calling for the head of the individual who provoked a conservative council member.Much more so than is being done in this case.Look at how the conservatives went after Salzman in the letter to the editor fiasco,Glenn Franco Simmons especially.
Well, like I said, Mresquan I am conservative, and I think what he did was reprehensible.
Remember the when Tyson called the Council meeting on LNG at the Muni “mob rule”?
Anon 11:25 – Mark is arguing that there is a double standard. I don’t have any insight into the question myself, but I don’t think he was literal about the SWAT team.
Personally, I’d be satisfied if Arkley would make an apology, promise it would never happen again, and state that he would agree to disagree with Glass should Glass vote against his project. Maybe he should even agree to have a one-on-one discussion with Glass about the issue. I’m amazed that they haven’t met since Glass came to office. If he does that right away, it should nip this whole thing in the bud, other than a few days of blog screaming, some letters to the editor and editorials, and maybe some jokes on the radio and elsewhere.
My take anyway.
I wasn’t being literal about the swat team,but I probably could argue that when I think back upon one day where a very peaceful protest and critical mass took place,in which Tyson ordered a cavalry to be stationed both inside and on the steps of the Federal Building in Eureka,as well as ordering Homeland Security helicopters to oversee protesters.All of which resulted in a bogus fiasco for Kat Zimmerman and a few other bike riders.
PR Guy here again…
Eric is on the right track suggesting an apology. The denial of a physical altercation (if one occurred) will backfire. Invariably, a witness will come forward contradicting your claim, and the story that had died down springs back to life as the media slugs you again. Given the scope of Mr. Arkley’s business holdings and his public presence, he would be well served by having an in-house PR person advising him.
And if no physical altercation occurred, an apology may still be in order. It’s a question of the type of moral character these two men wish to portray for themselves. Mr. Glass is playing the victim. I’m not sure what Mr. Arkley is shooting for, but it’s not good.
Nip this whole thing in the bud? Arkley has been threatening and bullying his political foes for years. Now he’s moved on to assault and stalking. He’s out of control and getting worse.
Mr. Glass is playing the victim.
Well, if Glass’ account is true, he was a victim. But his decision to not press charges does give him the high road for the moment. If an apology was made which seems sincere, he should acknowledge it.
Nip this whole thing in the bud? Arkley has been threatening and bullying his political foes for years. Now he’s moved on to assault and stalking. He’s out of control and getting worse.
Oh, Glass isn’t going to be intimidated by something like this. If anything, he’ll be emboldened. Arkley’s smart enough to know this. It sounds like his temper got the best of him. I don’t think there’s any design to what Arkley did or he would have done it much better. Maybe had some henchmen meet Glass in the alley behind his store, rough him up, and threaten to break his knuckles if he doesn’t vote right. Or something like that anyway.
But I’ve met both Brian and Randy. I think they’d have a hard time pulling that off.
TS – there was no physical contact, but rather a verbal exchange concerning Arkley’s daughters, after which Arkley e-mailed Glass an apology
ER – SN Senior Vice President Brian Morrissey, also speaking on Arkley’s behalf, said via e-mail, “Rob regrets the strong emotions that were exhibited by both parties and has e-mailed Larry his apology.”
There is a wide gulf between Larry’s claim that Arkley had to be restrained by Randy Gans, and Gans’ claim that it was only a “verbal exchange.” Add to that Gans insulting Larry by calling him a “publicity-seeking politician.”
Gans may not be a back alley thug (no one said he was) but he does appear capable of lying. And of course, Gans’ comments were handsomely paid for.
I was joking about the back-alley thing. Nobody sue me please!
A simple apology will do. We’ll forget the whole thing.
Yes, Eric,
Mresquan is inferring a double standard, and his comparison with David Tyson ordering up helicoptors and the like for the protesters walking up the freeway and the federal building is not an apt comparison.
(btw, wasnt it the Highway patrol etc, and the police chiefs that would be involved – i’m not sure a city manager would be involved).
Mresquan brought up unequal treatment of city council members, based upon what political colors they fly, so I am not sure what he is getting at with trying to compare Tysons supposed actions or inactions towards protesters.
So Eric, can you see my point (whether or not you are willing to concede it?)
I get your point anon.
Heraldo – nobody’s going to forget this. It’s going to be in a cornerstone in local political lore for years to come. Analogies will be drawn throughout the Balloon Track fight. Glass’ re-election campaign will find witty ways to use it.
Look, it’s a serious matter. If I’d been there to see it I might be even more appalled. I had an incident a couple of years ago in which someone on the other side of a lawsuit, and ex-boyfriend of my client, physically approached my client following the hearing and when I got in between them got right into my face attempting to intimidate me. I really felt like decking him. I probably could have charged him with assault, but we’d won at the hearing and I was satisfied to allow him to cool off. He apologized later. I didn’t forget, but I forgave.
Arkley needs to make amends. But even if he doesn’t, Larry’s is going to come out of this just fine. If Arkley does anything like it again, then obviously something should be done. But his handlers are probably making sure nothing of this sort will happen again.
i stopped advertising in the Eureka Reporter today. I will never spend another dime that will go to any Arkeley. They support needless violence and censorship, and I beleive that they are traders to this country.
Eric,
I suggest you call Larry.
I don’t see this “emboldening” Larry, neither would I think it likely to intimidate him.
He’s probably thinking it over and might welcome your input.
I agree. Please call Larry, Eric.
Oh for God’s sake. A drunk, angry guy pushed and made out of line comments to another guy. You can see it every night at the Sidelines. Get some perspective.
people get there lives and businesses threatened every night at Sidelines? thanks for the tip, ill never go to that establishment
I suspect that Eric is right, and that the public relations person is right, that if Robin Arkley Jr were to personally apologize, promise contrition, and to respect Mr. Glass’ decisions as a council member, then that would probably resolve the issue. That’s in large part due to Mr. Glass’ level-headed and de-escalating approach.
But Arkley has already started down a different road. His corporate execs are spinning the facts, while Mr. Arkley Jr. remains hidden and quiet in the background. PR person, where do you go from there? If you start down the low road, where’s the path back up to the high road?
As has been noted by many others, the shoves are one thing, but the threat by a very powerful man to destroy a sitting city council member if he votes the wrong way is a *very* serious matter. In part that is because Mr. Arkley Jr has the financial resources to in fact inflict substantial (and perhaps legal) harm to Mr. Glass if he wanted to. In part this is because Mr. Arkley Jr. has a well-earned reputation for vindictiveness.
I would also like to hear from witnesses to the event, to have them come forward and provide *independent* third-party accounts. Has anybody seen such an account yet?
I’ll be happy to give Larry G. a call.
However, he seems to have taken my advice before I gave it.
“But I’ve met both Brian and Randy. I think they’d have a hard time pulling that off.”
By saying you believe Larry, you are inferring that Brian and Randy are liars.
i beleive larry
It’s not good to send Glass an apology on one hand, and on the other hand have an employee say he’s a publicity-seeking politician, unless you send a second apology for what the employee said to the news media. The lack of a second apology makes the first apology sound disingenuous. Hire a PR firm.
Puhleese, press charges? Maybe I’m just a social dinosaur, but you shouldn’t even press charges if you have an actual fistfight, let alone some weenie shoving match. Who are you people calling for charges to be pressed?
I don’t defend boorish behavior, but needing a lawyer everytime you have a fight with someone is LAME.
Larry handled it like a champ– file the report (because both he and Rob are public figures), bitch about it a little (KHUM) and drop it.
Can’t anyone have a dick measuring contest without you guys trying to thwack ’em with the ruler?!
-JMan
Some thoughts…
Pushing and shoving Larry is not the real crime. A developer publicly threatening to destory an elected city councilman if he doesn’t vote to approve the developer’s project has more prosecutable potential, in my opinion.
I hope Randy Gans gets paid a lot to wipe his boss’s ass after making a mess in public.
Rob Arkley is afraid of Larry Glass. Very.
jman, keep up with the post…..people are urging Glass NOT to press charges……
read and THEN comment. thats how it works best
Funny how there isn’t a single post by Rose…
And why should there be? It’s not as if she is a blind Arkley supporter.
And again, as someone has mentioned here, Arkley contributed to Paul’s campaign both the first time he ran and during the recall.
Rose would be all over this if Glass assaulted someone, say… Virginia Bass?
Or if Ken Miller or Mark Lovelace assaulted… John Cambell?
Rose could only dream of such a glorious event
Well, 4:13/4:17, YOU’RE certainly reveling in it.
It was ugly and disgusting, and yes I am a conservative. No, I dont condone it. I suspect Rose doesnt either, so why would you expect her here making excuses for Rob Arkley?
Counselor Kirk is STILL finding ways to defend Arkley in spite of the bullyonaires latest egregious behavior, and by refering to “Arkley’s handlers” he reveals his total ignorance of the man. Arkley has zero handlers because he is a control freak and because he trusts no one. NO ONE.
Counselor, you have bent over backwards to avoid criticizing Arkley on your blog while Heraldo has courageously and repeatedly held a spotlight on the man. Keep to your own blog and leave the heavy lifting to Heraldo.
Oh dear. I just referred to Arkley’s “handlers” in this post.
I see your point. Apologists might have been a better word.
Hey Polio! It’s been awhile. Where’ve you been?
One important way to truth out the Arkley mob’s version of the Incident at Avalon would be to inquire whether the alleged protagonist had ever been involved in similar situations in the past.
In light not only of the event itself, but Arkley’s denials, past incidents that may not have risen to the level of newsworthiness now may be. Even if sources (either past subjects of Rob’s persuasive powers, or just witnesses) weren’t willing to be identified by name, if several gave interviews, most news organizations would probably call that a live story.
The comparison with the Idaho Statesman’s treatment of the “Larry Craig is soliciting gay sex in public restrooms” story is instructive here. Before the arrest, they’d spent a lot of time and money, but only had one source against the Senator’s denials. So they killed the story. After, they ran the story.
So, folks have touched on the issue — Arkley’s pattern of aggressive behavior — at times in the past, but now it’s time those stories got flushed out of the corners, fleshed out with details, and made public.
And no, I don’t mean that people should make up anything, and no, I don’t think purely anonymous stories posted on Heraldo’s board are going to fly. But if you know a real story along these lines, I think you need to consider whether your duty as a citizen includes picking up the phone to one of the reporters on the story. If they get enough such calls, they’re going to keep this ball moving.
Rob, I’ll bet, will do the rest.
i agree with gordo….so who was the other council member who arkley threatened? can anyone access old newspaper articles?
How about the private investigators who spotted Richard Salzman putting anti-Arkleyville stickers on parking meters. I’m sure that was a total coincidence and they weren’t actually following Salzman…
Waiting for the hysteria to die down… I agree with J-Man at 2:58.
Salzman was old news at the time he got spotted putting his little stickers on the parking meters, heraldo. Getting messed up with him was Larry’s mistake – and he was smart enough to realize it, too little too late.
Remembering the blog climate at the time and the vicious attacks on his daughters, I don’t blame Arkley a bit for shoving Larry – and I like Larry.
That was a year and a half ago and the stickers disappeared after the complaints. Nah. You Don’t Hit.
Weak, Rose. Weak.
The blog climate is Larry’s fault? Arkley needs therapy and a restraining order if that’s his reasoning.
Too little too late to keep Arkley from becoming Big Mr. Shovey Man? That makes no sense. Larry is upstanding and well respected. It’s mindless to blame him for Arkley’s out of control behavior.
You mean we can’t justify Arkley’s behavior? Wahhh. Do I have to give back the presents??
I can tell you from firsthand experience that Arkley is a classic bully. I had a nasty encounter with him last year that also took place in the Avalon. We were included in a big celebratory table where the booze flowed like water. He made a couple of nasty insinuations about me and I took offense. Funny thing is, I could see him literally shrink in his chair when he saw I wasn’t backing down. A couple of minutes later he was gone, leaving Cheri to pay the bill. Needless to say, we haven’t been invited to any of their subsequent shindigs. In fairness, I was just as much to blame for the arguement as he was. But I got a good look into his eyes, and he went from angry to terrified mighty quick. Typical bully bullshit.
I don’t know Mr. Arkley at all and while he clearly has a temper (I might too if I was picked on as much as he is) it seems to me that he has done a number of great things for our community. I may or may not agree with the Marina Project (I don’t know enough yet to have an opinion) but I do know that my family and I have benifitted from the High School improvements, the “new” Zoo, the boardwalk, and countless other projects the Arkleys have paid for. These contributions don’t entitle them to walk over me but they have certainly entitled him to a fair and impartial hearing. A hearing he doesen’t seem to be getting from Mr. Glass, Heraldo (Dr. Tim), and many other carpetbaggers who have contributed far less or more likely nothing at all to our community. I’m willing to be openminded and really hear him out before making up my mind.
Less than whom? Arkley? Monetarily? Ethically? Openminded?
What has stopped him from calling in to the radio stations and telling his side?I find it hard to believe that he doesn’t have a cell phone.
Most of their projects are ugly, anyway. The co-op? UGH.
Yep, that waterfront…its but ugly. The zoo, egads, what an eyesore…
I think the Co-op looks nice…certainly much nicer than before…
I had a nasty encounter with him last year that also took place in the Avalon.
Man! I’m going to have to stay away from that place.
“He laid off 30 people in his Louisiana office in the past 2 weeks.”
And Countrywide laid off almost 13,000 employees this week alone. What’s your point?
Shall we write a negative blog about Countrywide’s CEO Angelo Mozillo?
Testing
A few comments…
Eureka City Manager Dave Tyson has gone out of his way to protect and insulate Councilman Chris Kerrigan. From Kerrigan not living in his own district (per the City Charter), having the police squash the public documents and reports of his hummer in the front seat of a vehicle parked in public, drug use (marijuana) in public, etc, etc. Talk to anyone who works at City Hall.
As a Libertarian I don’t care what you do in the privacy of your home (as long as it doesn’t involve children or animals). But in public…
If you don’t live the looks of the many Arkley buildings, then by all means please raise the capital and redevelop the many eyesores we have around Eureka. I can name around twenty abandoned, dilapidated buildings off the top of my head. Try posting with your real name and I’ll have my people call your people.
What has Heraldo ever contributed to our fair city? How about any of the other numerous Regressives who like to comment on the blogs on a regular basis? Name a public good any of these bozos has done for our city?
The reason Salzman is yesterday’s news is that he lost 4 out of 5 recent elections. Period. Should he take on a candidate and defeat an incumbent then he is news again. Until then…
Yeah, Rob Arkley has a temper and can get loud and boisterous with people. So did Billy Martin. Old news. Ask anyone who works at the T-S or NCJ. They have files of his “A-Bombs” (Arkley Bombs) when Rob goes off on a certain journalist or editor.
Keep this in mind — with all of Rob’s billions he can’t buy a local election. His own wife, Cherie, lost the Mayor election to Peter LaValle in 2002. Only you and I voting (should you actually live in Eureka and not Arcata) can change an election.
As for the fear that Rob will “destroy” The Works — why? I think Napster, Morpheus, Limewire, and Bittorrent have done enough damage to the recording industry as a whole, not just Larry Glass.
Larry’s a good guy. He’ll adapt to the ever changing music industry, or he won’t. Either way it won’t be Rob Arkley flooding Humboldt County with underpriced CDs and DVDs. I can go to Costco or order online at Amazon should I desire that.
Rob Arkley needs to make his Mea Culpa here. There are certain people that are off limits to any public threats and physical intimidations – judges, politicians, religious leaders and sports referees. A line was crossed. Some form of punishment will ensue.
Life will go on, folks. That is unless you don’t have one.
If I wanted to sink Larry fast, I’d lobby to make resale of used CDs illegal, you know, if I had money to spend. As crazy as the idea sounds, it’s not a new idea, and some industry wonks think it’s inevitable.
why would anyone want to sink anyone else in this community? its beyond me
How many members of the Coastal Commission witnessed this altercation?
Will someone explain for the uninitiated the difference between the words “infer” and “imply?”
Larry Evans. His brand of Americanism! Yuk! Following social fundation of his brand is what early 19th century central Europe did. Then as now that path is destruction.
typo (should have read) following the social foundation
Conflict of interest:
According to Larry Glass, long time local businessman and spokesperson for CREG, “The dog-and-pony shows offered by Security National have glossed over the facts like they want to pave over the toxic waste problem on the Balloon Tract.” He added that, “The environmental studies are one of the best chances for ordinary citizens to have a say in the decision-making process for this ill-conceived proposal. We want to ensure that the issues that matter to the residents of Eureka and Humboldt County at large are paid more than lip service.”
When you’re quoting something it’s nice to provide a source link.
Larry’s stance on Arkley’s “Marina Center” was well known throughout his campaign, and is part of the reason he won his seat on the city council by the largest margin in the race
“Conflict of interest:”?
No to me.
Well informed Council member who chooses to help the community be involved in important decisions with all the appropriate information would be more accurate.
sorry
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/04/07/18138511.php
well, i just thought people were entitled to fair and impartial evaluations of their projects, based on the law. that’s all
7:13 – does that apply to Tom Herman too?
If arkley apoligized why havent i seen that yet? i curious to see what he really said. if he ever had his minions bring it over.