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Orinda Mayor defends Arkley

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steven_glazer Orinda Mayor Steven Glazer was in Humboldt Friday to discuss Eureka developer Rob Arkley’s infamous shove against City Councilman Larry Glass

In an interview with KSLG, Glazer said he’s worked on Arkley’s “Marina Center” concept for a year and a half, but didn’t witness the September 5 altercation.   

Glazer said he hasn’t discussed details with Arkley because it would be “improper” due to the on-going investigation.

Instead, he said he had “hundreds of pages” relating to the Glass’s position on Arkley’s “Marina Center” project.

Glazer said Glass is “crusading politically” against Arkley’s Home Depot-anchored pipe dream.

But Glazer got uber finger-pointy by accusing Glass of telling Arkley’s daughters that he was “an insurgent in a war and [they] are collateral damage.”  Glazer also compared Glass’s opposition to Home Depot to President Bush’s commitment to the occupation of Iraq.

After wallowing in rhetoric, Glazer said he doesn’t know the status of the investigation but would step aside and let police do their jobs.

Perhaps if he doesn’t like the investigation’s outcome he’ll accuse Glass of hiding weapons of mass destruction. 

  1. Clouseau
    September 22, 2007 at 6:48 am

    I thought that a glazer’s job was to protect and insulate glass?

  2. hcn
    September 22, 2007 at 7:25 am

    You are such a genius Jock !

  3. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 7:49 am

    Jacques?

  4. greg
    September 22, 2007 at 7:55 am

    In this morning’s Times-Standard this guy compares Larry Glass to George Bush and Marina Center to the War in Iraq.

    Larry, if you read this: pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

  5. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 8:15 am

    This is not the first time Rob Arkley has used his daughters for political purposes:

    Link

    Link

    Link

    He uses pretty much anyone, as long as it means more money for him.

  6. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 8:23 am

    What a hoot! These Arkley “girls” gave over a $100,000 to Republican politicians the very same year they were supposedly crushed by some Anti-Arkleyville stickers. It’s public record – not spin. Go fish, Arkleys.

  7. September 22, 2007 at 8:43 am

    Yeah, what a wild spin. Comparing Larry with GW. This just shows how low down these people will go. No expense will be spared to drag Larry through the mud. Speaking of which, the tilted mast at the Boardwalk always reminds me of a boat stuck in the mud. You can see it from all the way up F St. It looks like a boat in distress. Hang in there, Larry.

  8. Carol
    September 22, 2007 at 8:45 am

    Yes, hang in there Larry!

    I want to buy that new Neil Young CD. See you soon!

  9. mresquan
    September 22, 2007 at 9:24 am

    From the contra costa times on8/26/2007

    -In Orinda, where the median price for a single-family house is $1.2 million, building affordable housing is a challenge, city leaders say “Where there are buildable lots, the topography is challenging,” said Orinda Mayor Steve Glazer. “Land costs are very high, which makes the ability to construct affordable housing at that level very challenging.”-

    Probably not the best way to project one’s public image by hiring this guy while simultaneously suing the county for lack of affordable housing.

  10. September 22, 2007 at 9:55 am

    Glazer also compared Glass’s opposition to Home Depot to President Bush’s commitment to the occupation of Iraq.

    I actually caught that part of the interview. I guess the spin now is that RA was only confronting Larry about the stuff said to his daughters. Now there is a question as to whether the words, “Vote for my Project, or I will destroy you” (paraphrasing) were ever muttered.

    Somebody tell Larry to check the basement of his store, somebody may plant Bio-weapons there.

    -boy

  11. mresquan
    September 22, 2007 at 10:08 am

    Larry was voted into office by members of the public for his questioning of Home Depot and the derailment of public input or involvement.Funny that an elected official doesn’t give that any credence.Will Arkley use him as a spokesperson for affordable housing needs when his lawsuit against the county comes into fruition?
    The last part of his statement could also say “Rob Akley’s commitment to the U.S. occupation of Iraq”.

  12. September 22, 2007 at 10:25 am

    I guess the spin now is that RA was only confronting Larry about the stuff said to his daughters.

    It’s pathetic for big. Mr. Arkley, who’s never been shy about firing off threatening emails to his opponents, to now hide behind his daughters. Glazer would have us believe Arkley declined to air any grievances about his daughters until seeing him at the Coastal Commission dinner.

    If that were true, it would mean Arkley puts politics before family. Oh, wait…

  13. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 10:34 am

    PR Advice for Mr. Arkley: This strategy worsens your image and looks to the casual viewer like an attack on Mr. Glass (or an additional attack for people who believe Mr. Glass). Characterizing the incident as a family matter when the allegations by Mr. Glass involve Mr. Glass’ business make this strategy paper thin. You are involved in a train wreck and your engineer hasn’t hit the brakes yet. Step back and rethink your strategy. Be honest.

  14. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 10:39 am

    To phrase it another way, today’s T-S article presents you as aggressive. You (and your family and your business associates and anyone who knows you) should be doing nothing that appears to attack Mr. Glass in any manner because it’s the same behavior you are accused of at the Chamber mixer. Your PR is reinforcing the idea that the Chamber incident is as bad as Mr. Glass claims. This is PR 101. Seek new advisers.

  15. Impressed
    September 22, 2007 at 10:43 am

    Well said, Anon, but it’s probably too late.

  16. mresquan
    September 22, 2007 at 10:48 am

    Pr 101,get rid of the advisors and speak for yourself.

  17. Honestly
    September 22, 2007 at 10:49 am

    Really, Anon, but “Be honest”??

  18. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 10:55 am

    To put it a third way, elongating a tangle with Mr. Glass will not benefit you.

  19. Anon
    September 22, 2007 at 11:08 am

    Is it the sign of a bad dad to drag his daughters into a political fray to justify his own poor behavior.

    If you believe Larry, an assault and battery and a threat against an elected official becoming an alleged ugly conversation with one’s daughters is ludicrous. How his daughters felt has nothing to do with these charges and he is using them as a shield against the accusations.
    In logic speak this would known as a yellow dog, oh, excuse me, a red herring.

    If you believe Rob, Larry should stop selling anything which offends any part of the community. Logically, this known as going out of business.

    And the rumor of Rob having his wife followed by a PI is just that, a rumor, as is all of this at this point.

  20. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 12:15 pm

    Correct me if I’m wrong…
    1) Arkley’s daughters visit Glass.
    2) Glass stops distributing stickers.
    3) They weren’t his stickers to begin with.
    4) This transpired quite a while ago.
    5) The exchange at the Chamber Mixer involved the Marina Center and the stickers were not mentioned.
    6) The T-S doesn’t connect the dots, and even published a color photo of Arkley and a B/W of Glass.

    Seems to me the T-S is sympathetic to Arkley. They ran his PR piece, hook, line and sinker. Well done PR. Bravo.

  21. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 1:10 pm

    For the last 2 weeks, Heraldo, you and Eric have been decrying the apparent failure or refusal of Arkley to apologize to Glass. Repeated, more frequently at Eric’s blog than here, yet over and over again, you two wanted to see an apology.

    So, then, what about the report in the T/S that Arkley had apologized THE NEXT DAY by e-mail? THE NEXT DAY!

    And what about Glass’ claim in earlier T/S reports that he was only prosecuting this claim because Arkley had failed to apologize? This is becoming one of those “what did he know and when did he know it stories.” If Glass indeed had already received an e-mailed apology directly from Arkley THE NEXT DAY, and yet he denied that in reports, and whined that the claimed lack of an apology was his reason to prosecute, WOW!

    Now, in the latest story, Glass claims Arkley’s hiring of a PR rep is intended to “revictimize” Glass?!

    We are all being played for fools by Glass.

    Think about it.

    (Or, more likely, you and Eric will change your mind and conclude that an apology was never that important).

    I suggest that to be consistent, all you can do is call on Glass to share the written apology he received directly from Arkley, THE NEXT DAY. All he has to do is stop stonewalling and lying to us and simply forward that e-mail message to Heraldo and Eric (and the T/S, to whom Glass apparently lied). Then we can judge for ourselves whether a timely, direct, apology was communicated or not. It will state right on it that it was sent THE NEXT DAY for God’s sake.

    Remember, Glass claimed that he was only prosecuting this case because he received no apology whatsoever. In the T/S story he dismissed the e-mail claiming it was not “an actual apology.” Well, then, Mr. Glass, you should be more than willing to share it with all of us so we can make 2 determinations:

    First, if we agree whether it serves as “an actual apology,” and,

    Second, whether you were playing us all along by telling us, in true victim-speak, that you were only prosecuting your claim because you had not yet received an apology.

    Boo-hoo.

    If Glass has lied about having received a timely personal apology from Arkley THE NEXT DAY, then Glass is guilty of lying and stonewalling all of you. Sickening.

    NO MORE GAMES, GLASS, SHOW US THE APOLOGY!

  22. September 22, 2007 at 1:12 pm

    Glazer would have us believe Arkley declined to air any grievances about his daughters until seeing him at the Coastal Commission dinner.

    Glazer made a point to tell John Mathews that he would not make any comments about the incident. He said on more than one occasion in the interview that he would not interfere with the ongoing police investigation. However, he just happens to mention during this interview that RA did try to talk to Larry about his daughters feelings at this Coastal Commission Dinner. He (Glazer) went so far as to read the alleged e-mail apology RA sent to Glass, in which it is inferred that RA only confronted Glass about the “family”.

    Glazer must have forgot to take his own professional advice.

    -boy

  23. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 1:18 pm

    Hey, Heraldo, why won’t you publish my post ending in:

    NO MORE GAMES, GLASS, SHOW US THE APOLOGY!

    Hmmm?

  24. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 1:19 pm

    I’ll try that post again:

    For the last 2 weeks, Heraldo, you and Eric have been decrying the apparent failure or refusal of Arkley to apologize to Glass. Repeated, more frequently at Eric’s blog than here, yet over and over again, you two wanted to see an apology.

    So, then, what about the report in the T/S that Arkley had apologized THE NEXT DAY by e-mail? THE NEXT DAY!

    And what about Glass’ claim in earlier T/S reports that he was only prosecuting this claim because Arkley had failed to apologize? This is becoming one of those “what did he know and when did he know it stories.” If Glass indeed had already received an e-mailed apology directly from Arkley THE NEXT DAY, and yet he denied that in reports, and whined that the claimed lack of an apology was his reason to prosecute, WOW!

    Now, in the latest story, Glass claims Arkley’s hiring of a PR rep is intended to “revictimize” Glass?!

    We are all being played for fools by Glass.

    Think about it.

    (Or, more likely, you and Eric will change your mind and conclude that an apology was never that important).

    I suggest that to be consistent, all you can do is call on Glass to share the written apology he received directly from Arkley, THE NEXT DAY. All he has to do is stop stonewalling and lying to us and simply forward that e-mail message to Heraldo and Eric (and the T/S, to whom Glass apparently lied). Then we can judge for ourselves whether a timely, direct, apology was communicated or not. It will state right on it that it was sent THE NEXT DAY for God’s sake.

    Remember, Glass claimed that he was only prosecuting this case because he received no apology whatsoever. In the T/S story he dismissed the e-mail claiming it was not “an actual apology.” Well, then, Mr. Glass, you should be more than willing to share it with all of us so we can make 2 determinations:

    First, if we agree whether it serves as “an actual apology,” and,

    Second, whether you were playing us all along by telling us, in true victim-speak, that you were only prosecuting your claim because you had not yet received an apology.

    Boo-hoo.

    If Glass has lied about having received a timely personal apology from Arkley THE NEXT DAY, then Glass is guilty of lying and stonewalling all of you. Sickening.

    NO MORE GAMES, GLASS, SHOW US THE APOLOGY!

  25. Clouseau
    September 22, 2007 at 1:26 pm

    Amazing how low some people will stoop for a decent salary and benefits.

  26. September 22, 2007 at 1:27 pm

    Alright!!! If there Glass produces the Apology, and it is verified that RA sent it in a timely, than the Mayor gets to go home?

    Hey 1:19 pm, some of my posts were sent to a moderation file, it was a wordpress malfunction. That is what H told me. Anyway, my comments were eventually published.

    I believe an apology was made, albeit by e-mail.

    -boy

  27. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 1:33 pm

    Is anyone able to access the T-S comments section for this article?

  28. Rob Pushed Me
    September 22, 2007 at 1:44 pm

    nope

  29. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 1:47 pm

    We don’t know there was an apology until we see the e-mail. Glass did not characterize it as an apology in the T-S article.

  30. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 1:49 pm

    Ho-hum! Don’t you people have anything better to do?

  31. Rob Pushed Me
    September 22, 2007 at 1:55 pm

    http://www.haloscan.com/comments/timesstandard/6970492/?src=hsn

    BTW – keep that link and you can always get the article number from the T-S site and put it in that URL. Article numbers show up after you click on the article.

  32. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 1:55 pm

    1:19, wow, that’s an indefensible defense you’ve mounted. This whole ‘my feelings are hurt’ thing is hogwash. NOTHING excuses a physical confrontation if that’s what occurred.

    The sad thing is that until this debacle I was on Arkley’s side… a philanthropist who is despised for his wealth. Ask people who hate him why they hate him and they provide the flimsiest of reasoning.

    My family enjoys the kids’ shows at the Arkley Center. But now he just seems like a big jerk, and his reaction after the mixer (through this PR guy or whatever) has been disgusting. When I’m shopping at the Marina Center, I’ll always remember the jerk behind it. He is building mini versions of the Hearst Castle in Eureka. That is his legacy now. If you don’t get the Hearst reference, watch Citizen Kane.

  33. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 2:02 pm

    In reply to 1:47:

    Precisely. Show us the e-mailed apology and we can all decide for ourselves. Glass should do just that. Just a click of his mouse and we will all see that Arkley apologized THE NEXT DAY.

    Glass is the one who said to the media that he is prosecuting his claim BECAUSE he received no apology. He admits he received an e-mail THE NEXT DAY, but refuses to share it because he says it was disclaimed as confidential at the bottom. Not so. Such disclaimers tell unintended recipients they cannot disseminate the e-mail if it was mis-directed. But the intended recipient can do anything he wants with it, including sharing it with the public to whom he has whined he got no apology.

  34. Rob Pushed Me
    September 22, 2007 at 2:06 pm

    Why hasn’t Arkley published the apology if it is so important?

    Because it is meaningless.

    Apologizing is nice but doesn’t make the crime disappear. If anything Mr. A. owes the whole community an apology for being such a prick. Remember this is the guy that has repeatedly said he doesn’t care what the community thinks.

  35. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 2:08 pm

    OK, I admit it, you are right.

    Glass didn’t really mean it when he said he would be satisfied with an apology direct from Arkley.

    And you all did not mean it either.

    Gosh, what a surprise.

  36. Rob Pushed Me
    September 22, 2007 at 2:14 pm

    Arkley needs to be a man and quit hiding behind emails and PR people. He is not our king. He is but another citizen and showed be part of the community and work towards creating a better image for himself.

    Larry is representing the rest of us who only ask Arkley to be fair and look at all of the community members as equals. He is only losing what little image he has.

  37. me
    September 22, 2007 at 2:16 pm

    true enough…i supported the marina center until this..

  38. Rob Pushed Me
    September 22, 2007 at 2:19 pm

    “”If you’re me, do you really care what the city thinks?”
    Rob Arkley

  39. September 22, 2007 at 2:20 pm

    9/6/07
    This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored.

    Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.

  40. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 2:21 pm

    I wouldn’t forward an email from SN either- the disclaimer as I have read it, doesn’t allow it.

    Didn’t Larry day he received an email apology when he was interviewed on KHUM the next day?

    This whole thing is out of control and a waste of everyone’s time. I wish both of them would agree to put it behind them.

    Anony.Miss

  41. Rob Pushed Me
    September 22, 2007 at 2:28 pm

    Well Arkley has put it behind him and into the hands of the Mayor of Orinda.

  42. me
    September 22, 2007 at 2:31 pm

    larry just posted the disclaimer….. proves that arkley doesnt want anyone to see it…

  43. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 2:32 pm

    Posted where?

  44. me
    September 22, 2007 at 2:34 pm

    here, at 2:20 pm

  45. Rob Pushed Me
    September 22, 2007 at 2:41 pm

    “Good neighbors work together. Good neighbors do not operate unilaterally. Good neighbors go the extra mile to find common ground and consensus. Good neighbors compromise. Good neighbors recognize that the long-term relationship is paramount.”

    Orinda Mayor Steven Glazer

    Comments to EBMUD Board of Directors Regarding Expansion of Orinda

  46. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 2:43 pm

    The disclaimer is the same one that is posted on every email the Arkleys and their employees send- nothing different, so it does not “prove” anything- Jeez!

    Anony.Miss

  47. me
    September 22, 2007 at 2:44 pm

    anony, post another email from arkley that has that….

  48. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 2:46 pm

    No, it says it’s not allowed, right on it.

  49. me
    September 22, 2007 at 2:47 pm

    so? are you afraid of being threatened with destuction or something?

  50. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 2:48 pm

    But here is what mine ALL say: (not including the message from the employee, of course, which is not allowed)

    This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored.
    Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.

  51. me
    September 22, 2007 at 2:48 pm

    …destruction

  52. me
    September 22, 2007 at 2:49 pm

    2:48……so post some emails, lets see em….or are you afriad of being threatened with destruction too?

  53. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 2:51 pm

    No, it says you can’t. So I don’t. It’s not ethical to do it and not being a good friend either, of the person who sent it to me. So, that’s all I’m going to say about that.

  54. me
    September 22, 2007 at 2:52 pm

    2:51……….what would happen if larry released the entire email? lawsuit? broken legs? business burnt down?

  55. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 2:57 pm

    I don’t know. He should ask his lawyer. I don’t know how to interpret it and never cared that much. I do respect the intent of it, however.

    You do sound paranoid though. Have you seen a therapist about that?

  56. me
    September 22, 2007 at 2:58 pm

    paranoid about what? please elaborate…..

  57. me
    September 22, 2007 at 2:59 pm

    i guess that i am a bit paranoid of the thought of people who will stomp democracy at every chance……

  58. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 3:02 pm

    Geez, I thought liberal were literate.

    Here’s a lifted sentence from Larry Glass’ post:

    “If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited.”

    Well, Larry was the intended recipient. Not the unintended recipient. He cannot use this clause as a ruse to say he cannot share an e-mailed apology he received from Rob Arkley.

    Well, I guess he can if you liberals all agree he shouldn’t own up to the contents of that message.

    Amazing.

  59. me
    September 22, 2007 at 3:04 pm

    3:02,read the FIRST sentence in the disclaimer please……

  60. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 3:04 pm

    paranoid of having your legs broken or your business burned.

  61. some_guy
    September 22, 2007 at 3:05 pm

    to share, or not to share, that is the question…….

  62. some_guy
    September 22, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    3:04, i would only be paranoid of legs being broken or businesses destroyed if i was threatened with those things…..apparently glass was threatened that way, so he should take the threats seriously…

  63. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 3:08 pm

    It looks like it is okay to send it on then, yes. So maybe it is fine. I think people involved in this sort of thing try to be extra cautious though.

    If Larry said there was some sort of apology during his original interview, what’s the big deal? Go back to your Saturday activities and enjoy the day!

  64. some_guy
    September 22, 2007 at 3:09 pm

    larry said that the email DID NOT include an apolgy

  65. some_guy
    September 22, 2007 at 3:10 pm

    why do arkleys minions have to lie on EVERY fact?

  66. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 3:11 pm

    Well, I have never felt threatened by senders of emails but I still feel that a personal email is not intended for the world to see. Perhaps it was ccd to others? If not, it was personal, between two parties.

  67. some_guy
    September 22, 2007 at 3:16 pm

    to share, or not to share,that it the question………

  68. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 3:17 pm

    why so Arkley haters have to make up stuff or jump to conclusions all the time?

  69. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 3:18 pm

    BTW, the apology e-mail was addressed not to Larry at home, nor at work, but at his City of Eureka official public e-mail address. So much for any expectation of privacy or confidentiality on the sender’s part. We can reasonably assume that Mr. Arkley knows that when one sends an apologetic e-mail to a city councilman, it is not going to remain confidential.

    Larry can deny it all he wants. The e-mail will speak for itself.

  70. Rob Pushed Me
    September 22, 2007 at 3:19 pm

    You can dream all you want. The e-mail will speak for itself.

  71. some_guy
    September 22, 2007 at 3:19 pm

    so larry CAN release it? i sure hope so

  72. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 3:23 pm

    Larry Glass has no cred until he shares it.

  73. some_guy
    September 22, 2007 at 3:25 pm

    how did he get elected then?

  74. some_guy
    September 22, 2007 at 3:28 pm

    didnt arkleys wife LOSE a local election and larry WIN?lol lol lol………

  75. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 3:32 pm

    3:25 — obviously this is about the issue at hand, and it is that context in which I comment.

    Larry Glass claims in public statements that his victim status is based upon the fact he received no apology. He did not say he wanted a public apology. He wanted an apology. Arkley’s PR guy says one was sent THE NEXT DAY and Glass is free to share it. Glass was the intended recipient and he has no place to hide behind the disclaimer.

    Show us the e-mail Arkley sent THE NEXT DAY to his city council e-mail address so we can either agree with Larry or find his explanation wanting.

  76. some_guy
    September 22, 2007 at 3:35 pm

    3:32, larry is claiming that a PUBLIC official was threatened…..that is the issue at hand……an apology does nothing legally, only personally….

  77. some_guy
    September 22, 2007 at 3:35 pm

    3:32, tell rob that hes losing this battle

  78. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 3:41 pm

    3:35 — Larry has been a bit of a moving target on this one.

    He told the T/S that he was prosecuting the claim because he received no apology. He framed the issue.

    I have not said that the apology does anything legally. Not the issue.

    The issue is Larry’s claimed victim status. He claims he was not apologized to and that is why he is prosecuting the claim. I did not make that up. Larry did.

    So, when it turns out Larry did get a personal apology letter THE NEXT DAY, but chose to lie about it, then indeed it may not make the legal issue go away, but it questions his credibility, just a bit.

    Let’s all chat this up some more AFTER Larry comes clean.

    That will be very interesting, indeed.

  79. Honestly
    September 22, 2007 at 4:13 pm

    That’s quite the spin, trying to make it about Larry.

  80. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 4:23 pm

    Larry made this about Larry.

    Remember what your momma taught you about how hard it is when you telling a lie, you can never keep your story straight.

    Now, Larry, show us that letter you think is not an apology.

  81. Honestly
    September 22, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    Don’t worry, anon: the cops will have the e-mail, but even if by some wild chance the alleged perpetrator did fully apologize, it would be an admission of guilt in court. Go fish.

  82. Om
    September 22, 2007 at 4:50 pm

    It’s too late for the truth to ever be told. After all that’s been said about it, no one would know the truth if they heard it. It would only sound like another version of the story, a lie, a fabrication.
    All we can do is watch this thing slowly unfold like the mysterious flower it is.

  83. WOW
    September 22, 2007 at 4:51 pm

    WOW it’s amazing how divided we are over this issue. I wonder if
    THAT WAS THE PLAN FROM THE START?

  84. some_guy
    September 22, 2007 at 4:52 pm

    what lie did larry tell?

  85. me
    September 22, 2007 at 4:53 pm

    yes, an apology would be a admission of guilt, very true.

  86. Honestly
    September 22, 2007 at 4:54 pm

    in this case, just not an admission of what actually happened. Boy, these guys are good.

  87. me
    September 22, 2007 at 5:00 pm

    honestly, elaborate please……are you saying that rob lied in the email?

  88. Honestly
    September 22, 2007 at 5:02 pm

    Just adding up what Larry said with what’s been happening, strictly conjecture – let’s hope the witnesses speak truth to authority.

  89. Andrew Bird
    September 22, 2007 at 5:05 pm

    What really strikes me in all this is that Rob Arkley is very afraid of Larry Glass. This is Arkley’s fear talking.

  90. me
    September 22, 2007 at 5:10 pm

    honestly, why the need to talk in code? what has been happening? lets hear your take on the matter…

  91. 6em
    September 22, 2007 at 5:14 pm

    From today’s TS:

    Arkley e-mailed Glass an apology the day after the Avalon incident, Glazer said, saying it was the wrong place and wrong time for him to express his frustrations regarding his daughters’ pain.

    Emphasis is mine.

    Shall we examine that sentence? The PR guy is the one calling it an apology. Get that?

    And how is this so-called apology constructed? It doesn’t seem to be “I’m sorry that I lost control.” or “Please forgive me for doing …” No, this “apology” states that is was the wrong time and place. That’s not an apology.

    To recap:

    Something clearly happened at Avalon that night that Mr. Arkley felt the need to send Councilman Glass an email about. Nobody can dispute that, since both sides agree that an email was sent. The email is being called an apology by the RA team, even though the PR guy describes it as containing more of a regret that it happened that night at that location than an actual apology. Councilman Glass has maintained from the beginning that he wasn’t apologized to. With the description by the PR person today of what this email contained, is it any wonder that Larry Glass wouldn’t call it an apology?

    Put another way, if somebody walked up to me and shoved me and then later said they wish it hadn’t happened where it happened and on the day it happened, should I feel like I was being apologized to? Heck no!

  92. Eric Kirk
    September 22, 2007 at 5:37 pm

    I not sure those disclaimers are binding on a bona fide recipient, but it’s certainly honorable to abide by it. But now Glass has permission to release the whole thing. He should do it, and let the public evaluate it on its own merits.

  93. September 22, 2007 at 5:45 pm

    He should do it, and let the public evaluate it on its own merits.

    Why should Larry do it? Arkley’s the one making a big deal out of it. Arkley is the one who put the disclaimer on it. Arkley should release it.

  94. Reality
    September 22, 2007 at 6:05 pm

    If witnesses collaborate Larry’s allegations, the city should pursue charges or request some other agency pursue charges. The city could probably do it, since the city charter gives the city attorney the role of “prosecutor”, but it’s unlikely. More likely, it will go to the state AG and it will take months before we know much of anything.

    Meanwhile, the Godzilla of PR wars comes to town.

    I hear the sound of Republican millionaires scuttling into their corners all over the country, pulling their minions behind them, as GW Bush bravely sweeps them further into their corner with his embarrassing failure. They are of his ilk, the ones who put him into power. Their communities are turning on Bush and his greedy rich friends. The American people are only tolerant to a point.

  95. Reality
    September 22, 2007 at 6:08 pm

    On the other hand, what if no one will collaborate Larry’s allegations? What if they all stay silent, or what if Larry is the craftiest darned liar in the world?

    Truth Wanted. See Reality. Second Floor.

  96. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 6:50 pm

    To: Reality-

    I’m a Republican millionaire and I don’t scuttle, am not of George B’s ilk, and am not for the war. Don’t paint me with such broad a brush!

    Get real and off your own high horse.

  97. Yo...
    September 22, 2007 at 6:58 pm

    Actually,

    Beyond providing some very fine fodder for those of us who LOVE the blogosphere….

    It is probably much ado about nothing…

    However, the posts I have see that say something to the effect of “well sheeeitttt, before this I was a fore the marina center…now, me an my kin are against it….

    Laugh my fucking ass off…AS IF.

    Anyway, it makes for fun city here in blogland…

  98. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 7:02 pm

    yeah, like anyone really changed their mind about the Marina Center. People love to say “Gee, I was for the Marina Center and now I’m against it, because of all this.”

    AS IF!!

  99. Eric Kirk
    September 22, 2007 at 7:27 pm

    Why should Larry do it? Arkley’s the one making a big deal out of it. Arkley is the one who put the disclaimer on it. Arkley should release it.

    Either one of them can release. Why don’t they both release it?

  100. me
    September 22, 2007 at 7:30 pm

    ive changed my mind on the issue…..now ive had time to look at the history involving the marina center. its obvious that the arkleys have used their local power to thwart the public process on the marina center….i hope that this issue goes to a vote just like walmart did. it should. we already said NO WAY to a big box on that property, it will happen again..

  101. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 7:31 pm

    They don’t care to. They have been advised not to. Or—-

    Maybe they have a life and don’t read the blogs.

  102. me
    September 22, 2007 at 7:34 pm

    lol, both of em read the blogs, larry posted here at 2:20 or so and arkleys minions are known to flood the blogs. many of the pro-bully posts are from the eureka reporter ip…

  103. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 7:35 pm

    6:50, touchy, touchy.

  104. September 22, 2007 at 7:36 pm

    I remember when minions fetched wine, and food. Now they flood the blogs. I like the “Pro-Bully” tag! Very funny.

    -boy

  105. me
    September 22, 2007 at 7:41 pm

    its funny, NO ONE is disputing that arkley threatened arkley. its not come down to the pro-bully crowd, and the pro-council member crowd….this should be interesting….

  106. me
    September 22, 2007 at 7:42 pm

    that last post should have read “its NOW come down to the pro-bully crownd and the pro-council member crowd” ……

  107. me
    September 22, 2007 at 7:43 pm

    two posts ago should have read “arkley threatened glass”

  108. Yo....
    September 22, 2007 at 8:20 pm

    Right, Me….

    Again….AS IF…LMAO

  109. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 8:22 pm

    touche or touchy, 7:35?

  110. Yo....
    September 22, 2007 at 8:23 pm

    me…funny

    no is disputing anything. Except for the fact that there are schleps like you who are saying….ohhhh before all of this I was FOR the Marina Center, and now, by jiminey I am against it….

    AS I said, LMAO

    And as I said before, I am not defending the guy, I am merely observing the fact that there are those like you who have had some sort of epiphany because of the….SHOVE…

    L.M.A.O.

  111. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 8:40 pm

    Yeah, like they need an excuse. They didn’t want to be FOR the Marina Center because they felt it wasn’t popular with their buddies, but they really want it. Now they have an excuse to dislike the idea?

    I bet most people want it.

  112. me
    September 22, 2007 at 9:14 pm

    8:40, lets put it to a vote then…just like walmart….we all remember what happened there…

  113. Anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 10:16 pm

    Actually, Glass said that the reason he decided to pursue charges was he was advised to by other government officials he spoke with at a meeting he attended after the incident. It was in the original T-S article on this issue. Functionally illiterate people are so easily confused.

    Fingersfly

  114. Mr. Obvious
    September 22, 2007 at 10:28 pm

    Four words…

    Freedom
    Of
    Information
    Act

    It’s public information. Go get it.

  115. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 10:41 pm

    Is it gone again, Rose?

    Anony.Miss

  116. September 22, 2007 at 10:43 pm

    Ooops? Better check out the Super Happy Fun Blog.

  117. September 22, 2007 at 10:46 pm

    It’s back, Anony.Miss.

  118. September 22, 2007 at 10:46 pm

    Ya gonna keep deleting that comment? “Mr. H?”

    Can you fix “Larry”s comment above? Gonna delete that, too?

    Why?

  119. September 22, 2007 at 10:49 pm

    While the findings of jr. sleuths are amusing, links to spam-happy mice are generally unwelcome.

  120. September 22, 2007 at 10:54 pm

    Can you fix “Larry”s comment above? Gonna delete that, too?

    Why deny you the excitement? Lord knows you need some.

  121. me
    September 22, 2007 at 11:10 pm

    thanks for the info on anonRmouse……i must have missed that thread

  122. anonymous
    September 22, 2007 at 11:26 pm

    Something’s fishy.

    Anony.Miss

  123. me
    September 22, 2007 at 11:30 pm

    something is indeed fishy….why are so many people OK with bullying? strange indeed…….

  124. anonamiss
    September 22, 2007 at 11:31 pm

    something is indeed fishy……why would so many people defend a person who bullies a city councilman? very fishy indeed….

  125. September 22, 2007 at 11:46 pm

    Something’s fishy.

    something is indeed fishy……why would so many people defend a person who bullies a city councilman? very fishy indeed….

    Ha! Ha! These two comments are very funny. Nice! We always stood up for the playground bully even after he whipped my ass!

    -boy (snickering)

  126. capdiamont
    September 22, 2007 at 11:55 pm

    Ah, but if H is Glass, then maybe H deserved to be pushed by Arkley.

  127. September 22, 2007 at 11:58 pm

    Quick! Call Steve Glazer! The guy needs a new angle pronto!

  128. me
    September 22, 2007 at 11:59 pm

    11:55
    lol….really? threatening a city coucilman is OK because said city councilman has a BLOG? lol lol lol……gonna take a damn good lawyer to get folks to buy that one……

  129. Rob Pushed Me
    September 23, 2007 at 12:00 am

    Hey Cap… were you knocking on my door today?

  130. capdiamont
    September 23, 2007 at 12:01 am

    Threatened how? A little shove at most, I’m having you followed, wow. Big threat.

  131. me
    September 23, 2007 at 12:04 am

    12:01
    keep up with the story…..khum has an interview….both the TS and the ER have done articles…..most of the local blogs have threads on the arkley/glass issue…….ILL DESTROY YOU IF YOU DONT VOTE FOR THE MARINA CENTER!!!!!!!!!!PUSH PUSH PUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!

  132. capdiamont
    September 23, 2007 at 12:04 am

    Why? I didn’t knock on anybody door today.

  133. capdiamont
    September 23, 2007 at 12:04 am

    Personally, I discount anybody who is drunk. They are just somebody to laugh at.

  134. anonamiss
    September 23, 2007 at 12:06 am

    and we are ALL getting a laugh at arkley now!!!!!

  135. anonamiss
    September 23, 2007 at 12:08 am

    can everyone say “inadaquacy issues”? “alcohol problems”?

  136. capdiamont
    September 23, 2007 at 12:11 am

    Sorry as I’ve posted on my blog. I don’t trust H/Glass, even if they maybe separate. So who has really been destroyed by Arkley. Many targets, not much actually been “destroyed”. Yawn. Personally he was drunk, so he might of said it, but there would of been no way glass would of voted for it in the 1st place. Too biased against it. Still unimpressed at the shoving.

  137. Rob Pushed Me
    September 23, 2007 at 12:20 am

    Great Cap.

    And as you’ve undoubtedly noticed from the post on your blog no one cares about you.

  138. Rob Pushed Me
    September 23, 2007 at 12:27 am

    “I have never received an actual apology from him,” Glass said. “I have received something that has been characterized as an apology, but it’s not an apology. I just feel this is following through on the threats that were made to me the night of the Coastal Commission reception.”

    Arkley/Glass clash continues

  139. Rob Pushed Me
    September 23, 2007 at 12:28 am

    “When asked how he feels the general public perceives him after this incident, Glass said, “I’ve lived here for 37 years and I’ve lived my life right out in public for everyone to see, and I’m not perfect, but I’m a good person and I tell the truth, and I think in the end most people who know me will know that.”

  140. Rob Pushed Me
    September 23, 2007 at 12:31 am

    He’s da man!

  141. capdiamont
    September 23, 2007 at 12:41 am

    Yeah, but he was caught as being a lier, because he said he didn’t receive any apology. Yet he did.

  142. anonamiss
    September 23, 2007 at 12:41 am

    12:41
    how do u know? are you involved with arkley? ………….no one has seen the “apology”…larry says it not an apology…..maybe arkley should publically apologize….

  143. capdiamont
    September 23, 2007 at 12:51 am

    how do we know it wasn’t? so far all we have is a carefully crafted avoidance by larry to reveal it. Carefully crafted to keep the fud up.

    Nope, haven’t met any of the arkleys.

  144. mresquan
    September 23, 2007 at 1:06 am

    Check Larry’s personal I.P. address,check the I.P. address at The Works, check any I.P address of Heraldo’s posts do they match the one posted here?Or call him and ask.

  145. mresquan
    September 23, 2007 at 1:27 am

    He apologized for doing it at the Avalon. It all depends on what one views as an apology,I don’t think it constitutes as an apology,but who cares,it’s not the issue,it’s not Larry’s job to protect Rob Arkley’s image.If Arkley is sending out apologies,that means there’s a decent chance that he violated penal code 71 or 85.It’s not up to Larry to come to the aid of Arkley here.And in that case it’s likely that the e-mail is in the hands of the attorney’s and the police department.
    But then again Larry is just a publicity seeking politician,so that’s all that matters.

  146. Anonymous
    September 23, 2007 at 1:55 am

    Eli Polk Inspires Stricter Air-Gun Laws
    8/31/2006 12:00:00 AM

    Senator Tom Torlakson (D-Antioch) authored Senate Bill 532 after Orinda City Councilmember Steve Glazer was shot in the neck with a pellet gun while driving with his family in October 2003.

    Bay City News Wire
    Via CBS-5

    A new bill Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed into law Monday evening will make it possible for district attorneys across California to prosecute people who maliciously shoot off air-powered pellet guns.

    Senator Tom Torlakson (D-Antioch) authored Senate Bill 532 after Orinda City Councilmember Steve Glazer was shot in the neck with a pellet gun while driving with his family in October 2003.

    According to Tom Martinez, spokesman for Torlakson’s office, the .17-caliber pellet penetrated Glazer’s spine and left him with lingering injuries. In addition, the pellet nearly hit Glazer’s carotid artery and he had to undergo surgery to have it removed, Martinez said.

    Police identified the shooter as Eli Polk, the son of convicted murderer Susan Polk, who told police he was shooting at a bird when he accidentally hit Glazer, Martinez said.

    Although it had its shooter, the Contra Costa County district attorney’s office was unable to prosecute Polk because the California penal code did not prohibit the firing of air-powered guns.

    According to Martinez, Glazer approached Torlakson shortly after the shooting and asked if he could help close the loophole in the law.

    Beginning Jan. 1, it will be a misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in county jail for anyone to willfully discharge an air-powered pellet gun in a manner that could result in injury to another person. In essence, Senate Bill 532 amends the penal code to include air guns in firearms laws, with the one difference that unlawfully firing a firearm can result in a felony charge whereas firing an air-powered gun is only a misdemeanor.

    “This is a very small issue,” Aaron Bloom, legislative aid to Torlakson, said. “We are not going after kids with BB guns.”

    The new bill leaves discretion up to the district attorney of each county, Bloom said.

    According to the federal Centers for Disease Control, more than 21,000 people nationwide were treated at hospital emergency rooms in 2000 for air gun-related injuries.

    Martinez said that the bill received bipartisan support as well as support from the Contra Costa County district attorney’s office and the Million Mom March.

  147. anonamiss
    September 23, 2007 at 8:03 am

    arkley’s guy wants to toughen up gun laws, so what?…… sure, most right wingers claim to be gun friendly, but ive noticed that they will abandon any principle when it comes to defending bullies…….

  148. anonamiss
    September 23, 2007 at 8:19 am

    1. larry has the right to have a blog
    2. larry has the right to use whatever pen name he chooses
    3. larry has the right to be in “cahoots” with whomever he chooses
    4.larry has the right as a CITY COUNCILMAN not to be threatened(see penal)

    ironic how supposed “right wingers” will abandon the entire US constitution to defend a bully……very telling indeed

  149. theotherme
    September 23, 2007 at 8:41 am

    all of the “right wingers” must be in church now, pretending to talk to their imaginary friend……..they can be SO out of touch with reality…truly scary

  150. anonymous
    September 23, 2007 at 8:51 am

    Anonamiss stole my name, but she has some good points. I do think Larry does have some sort of crusade against Arkley though uses this blog in some way to strike out. No crime there, but it adds to the tension between the persons involved.

    Anony.Miss

  151. Anonymous
  152. bearded lefty
    September 23, 2007 at 9:13 am

    Finally, the Arkley camp has found someone smart and seasoned to articulate its message. What a relief… I look forward to more information from Steve Glazer that, unlike most of the other pap on this subject, has not been spun to death… Bearded Lefty

  153. Carol
    September 23, 2007 at 10:10 am

    Larry is definitely not Heraldo. I asked him months ago when we had these similar rumors, and he said, “No.”

    I don’t know how Heraldo is, but like I have said before, ho he/she is has a great sense of humor, is very intelligent and can write well.

  154. September 23, 2007 at 8:02 pm

    Look! Mouseover my name and you’ll see that Rose is really Heraldo!

    Not really. And I’m not really Rose. Just making the point that this whole “Heraldo is really Larry Glass” thing is just plain amateurish. Anyone can be anyone else, just by typing that person’s name and website.

    Sorry to usurp your name, Rose. Just seemed like the mose effective way to make the point.

  155. anonymous
    September 23, 2007 at 9:02 pm

    Yeah, but there was still that error made, huh Rose?

  156. Rob Pushed Me
    September 23, 2007 at 9:04 pm

    Your momma is Heraldo.

  157. Rob Pushed Me
    September 23, 2007 at 9:19 pm

    So it looks like Contra Costa Co. is following Mr. Glazer:

    http://halfwaytoconcord.com/?p=1027

  158. Anonymous
    September 23, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    Good comment on that post “it’s very Citizen Kane”.

  159. Anonymous
    September 23, 2007 at 9:25 pm

    Y’know, a ruthless pursuit of power and ego at any cost.

  160. capdiamont
    September 23, 2007 at 10:12 pm

    Which one, Arkley, or Glass?

  161. Rob Pushed Me
    September 23, 2007 at 10:14 pm

    If you knew Larry it would be difficult to describe him as having any sort of inflated ego.

  162. Rob Pushed Me
    September 23, 2007 at 10:16 pm

    Where as Arkley virtually reeks of it.

  163. capdiamont
    September 23, 2007 at 10:19 pm

    Ok, how about Heraldo, and Arkley?

  164. Rob Pushed Me
    September 23, 2007 at 10:24 pm

    I don’t think it would work out. Too many differences to overcome

  165. September 23, 2007 at 10:25 pm

    He likes scotch. I like flowers.

  166. capdiamont
    September 23, 2007 at 10:26 pm

    “Marry me or I’ll destroy you!”?

  167. Rob Pushed Me
    September 23, 2007 at 10:29 pm

    Worked before.

  168. capdiamont
    September 23, 2007 at 10:29 pm

    Who says he doesn’t like flowers?

    Kinda hard to drink flowers. Or is it tea made from flowers?

  169. Rob Pushed Me
    September 23, 2007 at 10:29 pm

    Just like “be my daughters or…”

  170. Rob Pushed Me
    September 23, 2007 at 10:30 pm

    Or the proverbial “be my Kurt Kramer or..

  171. Rob Pushed Me
    September 23, 2007 at 10:31 pm

    Or even the sincere “Be my my Trails Trust Connie Miller or…”

  172. Rob Pushed Me
    September 23, 2007 at 10:34 pm

    Me bad. Didn’t mean “sincere”.

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